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SapperSaint 10-30-2006 08:21 AM

For those not FREAKING OUT!!!
 
Just figured we need a blurb on here for those not worried about this loss.

Who were you pleased with during the game???

As for me, I think Colston is the MUTHERLOVIN' MAN!!!!!

If he continues to play at this level of performance it should be a no brainer for Rookie of the Year!

I am still very pleased with the play of the Brees (minus the INT's) and the Defense.

SOUND OF FAITHFUL!!!!!!

hagan714 10-30-2006 08:25 AM

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I think this was a gut check at half time for them and they as team came out and played well. Never gave up and gave us the chance to get right back into the game more than once. It just was not in the cards this week. this was a ...Good????....loss.

SaintFanInATLHELL 10-30-2006 08:28 AM

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this was a ...Good????....loss.
No it wasn't. This was a loss created by turnovers, penalties, and mistakes. Any loss that occurs because of those issues are a bad loss.

The team needs to clean it up for the next game.

SFIAH

SapperSaint 10-30-2006 08:29 AM

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I would say it was a good loss. Just a little wake up call. Everyone needs one.

jrmllb 10-30-2006 08:33 AM

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can't wait for next week....Deuce, Reggie, Joe and Colston are going to light up the Bucs....Wake up calls are good Sapper...I think this was one...I like that again, they never gave up and I did not see one stinking smerk on the face of our QB...I will take that loss better than I could before...

SapperSaint 10-30-2006 08:45 AM

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ATLHELL, this is only if you are NOT freaking out. You sound like you are freaking out to me.

poydras 10-30-2006 08:53 AM

I really don't consider it "freaking out". It's more like suffering a flashback from a disaster in the past. I've been a Saints fan too long to not have those.

hagan714 10-30-2006 08:53 AM

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what the heck
not like Ravens are a 1-5 team. McNair is not Walters.
We played a good team that was hitting on cyclinders and the bounces were going their way.
You have to be perfect to win those games and we did not. but the boys kept driving and defense made some key stops but we could not put it all together. We just kept bouncing the ball and turning it over. OL paniced because they played the #1 defense. i can understand that. trust me i would hate to be sitting there watching game tapes with Payton.

redjem25 10-30-2006 09:25 AM

Colston is the bomb! Joe is back and I am looking forward to next week!

hagan714 10-30-2006 09:30 AM

Add henderson to the list. were was he? was he carring the water bottles in and out of the huddle? Lets hope the TE step up soon. the killed us.

NO_SAINTSinMD 10-30-2006 09:38 AM

Colston is the new face of the team offensively since no one wants Deuce to play more than reggie. Colston was a gift. Think of it like the Phoenix destroyed to nothing but a gift from the ashes

redjem25 10-30-2006 09:50 AM

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Colston is the new face of the team offensively since no one wants Deuce to play more than reggie. Colston was a gift. Think of it like the Phoenix destroyed to nothing but a gift from the ashes

I want Deuce to play more than Reggie because he can get it done. Reggie is like a bullseye for every d-line. They are looking for him and gunning for him. Put Deuce in and pound , pound, pound!!!!

poydras 10-30-2006 09:51 AM

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Colston is the new face of the team offensively since no one wants Deuce to play more than reggie. Colston was a gift. Think of it like the Phoenix destroyed to nothing but a gift from the ashes

I want Deuce to play more than Reggie because he can get it done. Reggie is like a bullseye for every d-line. They are looking for him and gunning for him. Put Deuce in and pound , pound, pound!!!!

I like it when they're both on the field at the same time.

neugey 10-30-2006 12:02 PM

As bad as this game was, if you take away the turnovers OR the penalties, we probably have a chance to win the game. The effort was there and the production was there, especially on offense. The mistakes just killed us and the Ravens kept their own mistakes to a minimum.

NO_SAINTSinMD 10-30-2006 12:30 PM

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Colston is the new face of the team offensively since no one wants Deuce to play more than reggie. Colston was a gift. Think of it like the Phoenix destroyed to nothing but a gift from the ashes

I want Deuce to play more than Reggie because he can get it done. Reggie is like a bullseye for every d-line. They are looking for him and gunning for him. Put Deuce in and pound , pound, pound!!!!

I like it when they're both on the field at the same time.

Well Deuce can run between Offensive Tackles Reggie can't, Deuce can carry workloads reggie can't oh yeah Deuce always falls forwards reggie backwards

poydras 10-30-2006 01:56 PM

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Colston is the new face of the team offensively since no one wants Deuce to play more than reggie. Colston was a gift. Think of it like the Phoenix destroyed to nothing but a gift from the ashes

I want Deuce to play more than Reggie because he can get it done. Reggie is like a bullseye for every d-line. They are looking for him and gunning for him. Put Deuce in and pound , pound, pound!!!!

I like it when they're both on the field at the same time.

Well Deuce can run between Offensive Tackles Reggie can't, Deuce can carry workloads reggie can't oh yeah Deuce always falls forwards reggie backwards

I'm not worried about Reggie other than him losing confidence. It took Deuce a while to adjust to the size and speed of the NFL too. All players have to go through that.

4saintspirit 10-30-2006 02:06 PM

Well -- the team didn't quit and that is the only positive thing I saw in the game. Other than that I saw a lot of penalties, turnovers and questionable play calling. I mean the reggie pass was a brilliant play but not from where they were at the time -- no room for the receiver to get distance -- that play would have been great from mid field -- Actually that whole series made me have flashbacks to the Haz/Brooks days - 12 men in the huddle -- then movement on the line. Please ===

NO_SAINTSinMD 10-30-2006 02:19 PM

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Colston is the new face of the team offensively since no one wants Deuce to play more than reggie. Colston was a gift. Think of it like the Phoenix destroyed to nothing but a gift from the ashes

I want Deuce to play more than Reggie because he can get it done. Reggie is like a bullseye for every d-line. They are looking for him and gunning for him. Put Deuce in and pound , pound, pound!!!!

I like it when they're both on the field at the same time.

Well Deuce can run between Offensive Tackles Reggie can't, Deuce can carry workloads reggie can't oh yeah Deuce always falls forwards reggie backwards

I'm not worried about Reggie other than him losing confidence. It took Deuce a while to adjust to the size and speed of the NFL too. All players have to go through that.

Well until then it aint gon hurt reggie to sit back

SaintPauly 10-30-2006 03:20 PM

As far as getting up to NFL standards though, Tomlinson was running all over people his first season, if I remember correctly. Bush is supposed to be a Tomlinson clone, according to alot of the scouts. That kind of worries me. Portis, also came out in his first year, and tore it up. He is supposed to be better than both of these guys. I'm not giving up on Bush, just wish he would show us something more on the ground game.

ssmitty 10-30-2006 05:11 PM

colson should be signed to a new contract before the season is over and give him his due. a tenth of what reggie makes might do it. the front office should not ignore this kid. this is one gem...........smitty

BlackandBlue 10-30-2006 05:32 PM

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Colston is the new face of the team offensively since no one wants Deuce to play more than reggie. Colston was a gift. Think of it like the Phoenix destroyed to nothing but a gift from the ashes

I want Deuce to play more than Reggie because he can get it done. Reggie is like a bullseye for every d-line. They are looking for him and gunning for him. Put Deuce in and pound , pound, pound!!!!

I like it when they're both on the field at the same time.

Well Deuce can run between Offensive Tackles Reggie can't, Deuce can carry workloads reggie can't oh yeah Deuce always falls forwards reggie backwards

I'm not worried about Reggie other than him losing confidence. It took Deuce a while to adjust to the size and speed of the NFL too. All players have to go through that.

Well until then it aint gon hurt reggie to sit back

let's say you bench Bush....

who you going to put in his place? more than half of our playbook has both deuce and bush on the field at the same time. so.....who you going to put in?

BoudinSandwich 10-30-2006 05:35 PM

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I am still very pleased with the play of the Brees (minus the INT's) and the Defense.

I'm sorry. I can't fault Brees for those picks. The balls were tipped. There's nothing he could do about that - it's on the receiver that didn't catch it.

LongTimeFan 10-30-2006 06:11 PM

How many years did Colston sign with the Saints?

spkb25 10-30-2006 06:19 PM

i think we will learn a lot out about this team this week against tampa. i want to see what their made of

AllSaints 10-30-2006 07:23 PM

Reggie will learn maybe not early like this but later in the season I think he will start to get better sundays performance from reggie was pitiful... looked scard out there agianst that D would like to see Deuce back in there DEEEEUUUUCCEEE !!!!

NO_SAINTSinMD 10-31-2006 09:18 AM

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Colston is the new face of the team offensively since no one wants Deuce to play more than reggie. Colston was a gift. Think of it like the Phoenix destroyed to nothing but a gift from the ashes

I want Deuce to play more than Reggie because he can get it done. Reggie is like a bullseye for every d-line. They are looking for him and gunning for him. Put Deuce in and pound , pound, pound!!!!

I like it when they're both on the field at the same time.

Well Deuce can run between Offensive Tackles Reggie can't, Deuce can carry workloads reggie can't oh yeah Deuce always falls forwards reggie backwards

I'm not worried about Reggie other than him losing confidence. It took Deuce a while to adjust to the size and speed of the NFL too. All players have to go through that.

Well until then it aint gon hurt reggie to sit back

let's say you bench Bush....

who you going to put in his place? more than half of our playbook has both deuce and bush on the field at the same time. so.....who you going to put in?

My thoughts exactly but never should we use reggie to run, i really like reggie as a westbrook player RB that catches the ball in the flats, slots, etc. but Decue needs his yards he's a powerback. With both on the field at the same time reggie should never run the ball well not yet atleast he's a tad bit too small 'Bullet'ocks and Reggie weigh bout the same. Ones a DB the other is RB you see the picture hear comrads?

BlackandBlue 11-01-2006 03:37 PM

Reggie Bush 5-11 203lbs
Joseph Addai 5-11 214lbs
Tiki Barber 5-10 205lbs
Frank Gore 5-9 213lbs
Ahman Green 6-0 218lbs
Julius Jones 5-10 211lbs
Wali Lundy 5-10 214lbs
Clinton Portis 5-11 205lbs
Chester Taylor 5-11 213lbs
Carnell Williams 5-11 217lbs

SaintPauly 11-03-2006 04:41 PM

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Reggie Bush 5-11 203lbs
Joseph Addai 5-11 214lbs
Tiki Barber 5-10 205lbs
Frank Gore 5-9 213lbs
Ahman Green 6-0 218lbs
Julius Jones 5-10 211lbs
Wali Lundy 5-10 214lbs
Clinton Portis 5-11 205lbs
Chester Taylor 5-11 213lbs
Carnell Williams 5-11 217lbs

Wow. Reggie is the same size as Tiki Barber and Frank Gore? No excuses then. Needs to start eating those subway sandwiches. :D

gandhi1007 11-03-2006 06:09 PM

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It took Deuce a while to adjust to the size and speed of the NFL too.
I hate to burst someone's bubble, but Deuce hit the deck running his 1st season as the starter.

RockyMountainSaint 11-04-2006 12:46 AM

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I hate to burst someone's bubble, but Deuce hit the deck running his 1st season as the starter.
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235228
He was a 2nd yr pro before he became the starting RB.
Check the link above.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133448
Check this one to compare attempts.
Rickey vs Deuce in 2001.
2001 was Deuce's rookie year.

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-04-2006 05:31 AM

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How many years did Colston sign with the Saints?

Three.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-04-2006 05:50 AM

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Reggie Bush 5-11 203lbs
Joseph Addai 5-11 214lbs
Tiki Barber 5-10 205lbs
Frank Gore 5-9 213lbs
Ahman Green 6-0 218lbs
Julius Jones 5-10 211lbs
Wali Lundy 5-10 214lbs
Clinton Portis 5-11 205lbs
Chester Taylor 5-11 213lbs
Carnell Williams 5-11 217lbs

Wow. Reggie is the same size as Tiki Barber and Frank Gore? No excuses then. Needs to start eating those subway sandwiches. :D

It's not a matter of eating the subway sandwiches. Reggie lacks a critical element that these other backs either came into the league with or learned pretty quickly: patience.

What Reggie does is get the ball and then tries to make that spectaular move to get free as soon as he gets the ball. Or tries to make it to the edge of the defense to score.

He's failing pretty badly on both because he doesn't have patience. Up until now he was so far ahead of most defensive college players that the strategy worked pretty well.

But dude is in the NFL now. He's going to have to rethink that strategy a bit.

I watch LT, Tiki, Gore, Portis, and even that hated Warrick Dunn. They all do what Duece does, which is patiently follow the blocking scheme through the hole to daylight. Speed and elusiveness works at the second and third levels of the defense. It even works sometimes in the backfield when the blocking scheme has broken down. But it defeats the play to start juking 6 yards behind the line. And that's what Reggie is doing right now.

Payton is going to have to rework Reggie's running game into 4 yards and a cloud of dust. He's going to have to teach Reggie to trust the line to do its job, so that he can do his job. It won't stay 4 yards and a cloud of dust long. It'll turn into Duece's (and the other elite RB's) game where they go into the line, and then the next thing you see they are 12 yards downfield running to daylight.

Just think about Reggie's punt return in the Tampa game as a sample. Earlier in the season he kept running backwards trying to get to daylight. On that play he trusted his blockers to set up the wall. Once he got to it... GONE!

Reggie was thrown into a nuclear inferno. Frankly he's done very well so far. We really don't need him to run for 1500 yards this season. We just need him to learn how to do it this season so that he can be the man for the next decade.

SFIAH

gandhi1007 11-04-2006 07:48 AM

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I hate to burst someone's bubble, but Deuce hit the deck running his 1st season as the starter.
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235228
He was a 2nd yr pro before he became the starting RB.
Check the link above.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133448
Check this one to compare attempts.
Rickey vs Deuce in 2001.
2001 was Deuce's rookie year.

Hence the designation "1st season as the starter" in my post. :?

hagan714 11-04-2006 10:21 AM

he is adjusting still to the NFL. Hate to say that but it is true. his best runs to date have been between the tackles and cutting in a north and south directions. Outside the tackles he is still dancing to much east and west. each week he seems to be catching on that those moves are better saved in the second level of the defense. funny thing he is playing behind an OL that was thrown together this year. they are the real surprise this year and deserve alot of credit. I like the core we put together and with next years draft and FA I only see things getting brighter for the OL and all the players that depend on them. Sooner or later teams will stop shadowing Bush so much. Drew and the passing game is proving to a legit weapon that can win games. God knows we have not had that for years. Then Bush will shine. A legit TE weapon would go along way to helping Bush out. I give him a solid b for his first year.

RockyMountainSaint 11-04-2006 07:23 PM

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Hence the designation "1st season as the starter" in my post.
Sure.
But there is no basis for comparison. Yet.
Deuce is the starter and Reggie is the backup.
Don't think it will play out the same as Rickey/Deuce.
Deuce isn't going anywhere next season.


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