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JOESAM2002 12-07-2006 09:41 AM

NFL NEWS.......THOMAS
 
Posted December 07, by Ben Maller
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The current NFL steroid policy as approved by member teams and the NFL Players Association is clear on many points, including these: "Team physicians may not prescribe, supply or otherwise facilitate a player's use of prohibited substances"; "Players are responsible for what is in their bodies, and a positive test result will not be excused because a player was unaware that he was taking a prohibited substance." Saints defensive tackle Hollis Thomas, suspended without pay for four games Tuesday, has denied he took the steroid clenbuterol, for which he tested positive during a routine training camp urine test Aug. 6. "I never needed any enhancers," Thomas said Tuesday. "I never wanted to be a cheater and don't consider myself a cheater." Thomas, an asthmatic, has been following a rigid prescription regimen since training camp, as directed by the Saints' team physician, to keep his asthma under control and has concluded that the asthma medication caused his positive test. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Wednesday that the league's testing procedure is sophisticated enough to detect approved asthma medications, some of which are steroidal, and substances such as beta-2 agonists, such as clenbuterol, that are prohibited. "There's no asthma medication on our banned substance list," Aiello said.

http://www.benmaller.com/archives/20...mber/07#124501

TallySaint 12-07-2006 10:24 AM

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Wednesday that the league's testing procedure is sophisticated enough to detect approved asthma medications, some of which are steroidal, and substances such as beta-2 agonists, such as clenbuterol, that are prohibited.

"There's no asthma medication on our banned substance list," Aiello said, "unless it's something that has ephedra (a known stimulant common in some cold medications and also on the banned substance list) in it. And players can apply for a special medical exemption. There are numerous players who have been approved for the therapeutic use of something on the banned list like a diuretic or ephedra.

"We're not discriminating against asthmatics. But there's nothing in asthma medication that would trigger a positive test. If there's something legitimate being taken on the banned list, there are allowances for that. And the medical waiver doesn't have to be requested in advance. It can be given at that point. Hollis Thomas had his appeal, presented his evidence, and the league rejected it."

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index...xml&coll=1


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TallySaint 12-07-2006 11:25 AM

NFL.com...

Deuce McAllister said he wants to be supportive of Thomas, but was not prepared to argue with the NFL's decision, either.

"We don't know everything that's happened. It's a sad situation," the running back said. "Obviously, you're a little prejudiced because he's a teammate and a friend, but until you have everything that's involved, then you really can't say either negative or positive."

:wink:


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papz 12-07-2006 12:24 PM

Rules are rules no matter how ludacris it may be. We'll miss him but I think we're going to do fine w/o him. This is why we have a depth chart... someone just needs to step up. I have confidence in this team Payton built. As we saw during the offseason, if he felt that someone couldn't perform, they were gone. Whitehead and Leisle will do a serviceable job. This is Leisle's time to shine.

TallySaint 12-07-2006 12:45 PM

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Rules are rules no matter how ludacris it may be.
No, papz. You haven't heard? The fix is in, the NFL front office is pro-Cowboys and they hate asthmatics.

Get with the program and write the lung association and your congressman. And when you write Commish Goodell and tell him what an ******* he is, remind him that we're very dissapointed in him for continuing to carry the torch to keep the Saints in New Orleans.


:mrgreen:

TallySaint 12-07-2006 02:25 PM

Team Could Share Blame in Suspension...

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...xml&coll=1


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Scandalous 12-07-2006 02:32 PM

Not gonna touch this one!

Scandalous 12-07-2006 02:35 PM

Can anyone tell me why Fred Thomas is still starting at corner back. Maybe its just me but it sure seems that he gets burned for big plays in just about every game.

mikesaintfan 12-07-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandalous
Can anyone tell me why Fred Thomas is still starting at corner back. Maybe its just me but it sure seems that he gets burned for big plays in just about every game.

if you are talking about the td in the sanfran game, it was a blown assignment by the safety...

Perkman 12-07-2006 07:57 PM

Hope I'm wrong, but it did seem like Fred Thomas was getting burnt by the 49er receivers. Let's trust the DB's are working their coverage schemes hard this week. They're going to need to be mistake-free against TO and Glenn.

TallySaint 12-07-2006 08:42 PM

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Let's trust the DB's are working their coverage schemes hard this week. They're going to need to be mistake-free against TO and Glenn.

Yep.


I suspect this date was marked on Payton and Gibbs calendar long ago. :wink:



I haven't seen Dallas much this year. Mostly highlight stuff, being here in Florida. But I did see Glenn a bunch pre-season. That's one bad mofo right there. Mistake-free is a tall order. This would be a great time for our pass D to step it up a bit. Yep.


My concern is defense. Offense can score.


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bulldog1865 12-07-2006 10:10 PM

yeah... thomas scares me a little bit... chad johnson pretty much had his way with him, and after mckenzie's 2 picks last week i think dallas will try and exploit thomas, so pick your poison... put thomas on glenn or TO?? i thinks bullocks and stoutmire should be ready to make some 6 point saving tackles....

stockman311 12-08-2006 09:45 AM

It appears from all that I have read that Thomas was taking ashtma medication AND the illegal substance Clenbuterol. I am very familiar with this drug and it's uses and effects. I can tell you that athletes in a lot of sports especially sports where you need to control weight such as boxing and football use this drug because it makes your heart and entire system run hotter and faster. It gives you more energy to work out thus the slight gains in muscle mass that result, but it's main use is weight loss and energy enhancement.
I can also tell you that some third world countries prescribe Clenbuterol to humans but it is illegal for humans in the US, and is mainly used to in the treatment of horses. It is a very dangerous drug and the NFL's tests are extremely good at finding it.
Now I don't know if Thomas took it or not, but if I was an ashmatic and were taking ashma medicine, had financial inducements to keep my weight down and thought I could trick the system and give myself a built in excuse to try and cheat the system, then Clenbuterol would be the drug I would go with.


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