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Reggie's antics cost the Saints a trip to "theeee game&
We all know it,
the momentum had changed when Brees was connecting w/quick passes and slants. And then "the pass" occurred! [drum roll ensues.....] Reggie was running up the side, made a sweet catch, and enroute to pulling an AWESOME upset and stunning, run-for-the-ages touchdown!!!! ..and then the unthinkable occurred: the taunting finger waved at Urlacher and if that wasn't enough to incite an entire state of Bears' fans, not to mention an already daunting Bears' defensive squad = the infamous somersaulting touchdown dive! Subconciously, we all know FULL well that gave the Saints a miniscule momentum, all relatively negated by the FUMING, PISSED-OFF, Bears' defensive squad. better luck next year I s'pose. Payton should send Reggie to NFL-etiquette school. we got Fleur'd. |
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glad to see someone gets it
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RE: Reggie
What planet are you from...really?
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As long as Reggie makes the 88 yard touchdowns, he can use all of his imignation it celebrating. As someone said, it is a game...and entertainment!
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Fair 'nough. As long as he runs out 88 yard touchdowns, look to settling for second or third place in the division.
Reggie's antics are stellar if your a one-man team. Want to win it all, look to teamwork, exemplified by the likes of Da Bears or the Colts. go figure. we got fleur'd. |
The last time he took off on a long run he drops the ball and goes out of bounds and no one was near him.
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last i heard, reggie taunting doesnt automatically give the bears like 30 points....and im pretty sure thats why we lost, the bears scored more points than we did. im not an NFL expert or anything, but it all comes down to who has more points at the end of the game, and the bears had more. And we got 2nd in CONFERENCE, not Division, we got 1st in that.
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BTW, the last time Reggie took off on a long run of 50+ he scored a TD. |
Reggie's taunting and dancing is not what changed the momentum. I know it was big on sports radio yesterday and Bears' players said it fired them up, but what happened in the game shows a different result.
Consider the evidence: A) The Bears went 3 and out (I think. They at least punted fairly quickly.) immediately following Reggie's TD; B) When the Saints got the ball back on offense, they moved it down the field pretty easily to the Bears 29; then C) Saints missed a 47 yard FG, but stopped the Bears offense once again and took the ball on the Saints 5. Does any of that look like anything had changed in the Bears' mental state as if they were more fired up after what Reggie did? It doesn't look that way to me. The Saints were still stopping the the Bears O and were moving the ball pretty well themselves against their D. Consider the next couple of series: 1) Saints get called for intentional grounding for a safety and 2) Bears get ball after safety and drive for a TD. Momentum changed. What changed momentum? The safety. "So, what caused the safety?" you might ask. I'll be happy to tell you, but you may not like the answer. It was the decision to try the FG from 47 yards in those conditions. It wasn't even close by the way. If Payton had elected to punt giving the Bears the ball at their 15 or 20 and then supposing that the D still held the Bears to a 3 and out, the Saints would have gotten the ball back around their 35 (more or less). Guess what? There wouldn't have been a safety since the Saints wouldn't have been backed up to their goal line. The safety changed the momentum. The missed FG changed the field position causing the safety. I read and heard many times how Payton knew this game was going to be one of field position and when he had it in his favor with the Saints having momentum, he gave it away on the long FG attempt. I want to be clear that I understand the logic in even attempting the long FG. The Saints had been down 16-0. Putting the Bears down 17-16 would have been demoralizing for them - especially with Grossman playing as bad as he did. It was a tough call and it didn't work out for the Saints, unfortunately. To suggest that what Bush did caused the swing in momentum is to ignore what happened on the field and to accept as truth that which is being said off the field and after the game. |
He didn't need to point before getting into the end zone. Get there then have fun. But, that was not the big killer...there were several small killers that affected field position:
1. Cundiff kicks out of bounds after bush score. We stop the bears. Not bad. 2. The missed field goal - still not too bad. 3. Intentional grounding - a 2 point gift but not a killer. 4. Free kick & we get the ball back. 5. Thomas gets beat for a score - the bad starts here. 6. Brees fumbles....great short field for bears. 7. Bears score. 8. Saints abandon the run. 9. Interceprion 10. 2nd intentional grounding Not to be funny, but it was a snow ball effect of these mistakes that led to the defeat. |
if reggie hurt us sooo much by taunting.....why did the bears go three and out on the ensuing possession and punt to us, and have us drive down to their 30 with all the momentum, only to kill ourselves with 3 passes and miss a long field goal. if his 88 yards did anything it fired the saints up, only to shoot themselves in the foot too many times.
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Urlacher most likely as talking a lot of trash himself. Bush just beat the bum thats all. :lol: :lol: :lol: |
Reggie's show didn't cost us the game! 4 turnovers cost us the game. As far as blaming any one player.......I call BS!!!!!
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Before the missed field goal attempt why did we try 3 failed passes. Would it not have been better to get Deuce to try and run the ball a bit nearer, even a few yards would have helped and maybe, just maybe we could have got that FG and a little more momentum and a good confidence boost at the same time.
When all said and done, and I don't like admitting this but, the better team won! Still looking forward to next season though. GEAUX SAINTS!!! YEAH!! |
I'm tired of this "Reggie cost us the game" crap. Oh really? I could've sworn that there were others fumbling the ball, allowing safties, and allowing a ridiculous pass from Grossman to be completed for a TD. My bad. I must've been watching another game.
Reggie is the reason that we were close in the first place. He scored the TD. If you want to believe that crap that the media is feeding you about "Reggie giving them momentum" you can believe it. Some people seemed destined to use Reggie as a scapegoat no matter what. He's been doing that somersault dive since high school and all throughout USC. Everyone knows that's his thing. |
No I think some of you are blowing it all out of wack. Reggies finer pointing was classless, distasteful and wrong. Did it fire up the Bears D more than likely yes... if it wasn't for the Bears D we could very well be in the SB. There D made us turn the ball over not there offense. reggie does need to grow up. He needs to learn it takes many others to get him to the SB its not all him. Doing a flip and celebrating like that will only get you hurt one day. The last last time he started to act up he drops the ball out of bounds when he had a sure TD during the season.
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Euphoria, tell me, how did he "act up" against SF? Did you even watch the game? The ball hit his bicep on the upswing and that jarred it free. Honestly, go find another team to root for. You seem to root against this one well enough as it is, you may as well find another one. Perhaps you'd favor a return to the Billy Joe platoon and constant losing. It amazes me how so many of you are so short on that which is essential to being a Saints fan: FAITH. |
bingo..better team won,
could we have beat the bears...yes but we did not turn overs killed us. reggie will learn not to mess with the ego of a top defensive team. yes it fired them up. that play along was going to get them fired up. the word is pride. we stunk up the place in the 4th. we were the team that paniced and lost focus not the bears. results. we lost and bush is not to blame the team as a whole is. |
No one player cost us the game anymore than I did. This thought is just stupid. Anyone who says one player cost the Saints that game doesn't know sheet about football. It's a team sport. No one player had 4 turnovers. No one player was responsible for all the penalties. Get a grip! God, it's too early!
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You know . . . this story is getting old. Who cares if he pointed his finger and did a flip in the endzone. If it takes that to get a defense motivated, then that defense doesn't need to be on the field. The defense was fired up and motivated anyway. Besides, when anyone else does this it's funny. Why is it different with Bush? You folks are just looking for a scapegoat when the loss was a team effort. The only problem that I really have is that Bush may have gotten a taunting penalty. He knows that and he apologized for it. You folks need to get over it, already!
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I'm not sure I can even classify this as taunting. Dikembe Mutombo wags his finger, right in another player's face for that matter, and all the fans and critics and announcers think it's funny and cute. So Reggie briefly does from a dozen yards away when both he and the Bears are probably out of breath and now he's the AntiChrist. Whatever.
If the image burned in Urlacher's and the defense's mind and it fired him up then so be it. The Bears D isn't the only reason we lost the game. |
What I think is funny is that Reggie is probably the person who least deserves any blame in that game. He was more effective than anyone else on offense and didn't cough up the ball. I think there were some dicey calls, but still.
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other points are worth reading
....and it's always easy, as a FAN, to place blame. Hats off to the Saints for getting as far as they did!
Sure, the media had tons of fodder with Reggie's antics (finger pointing and somersaulting dive), and maybe the Bears used it to continue the cycle. What really matters though is what the Saints can do to make that last step towards the Super Bowl! Surely had they had home field advantage, maybe Miamii would have been in their travel plans. 2007 season: get some tougher Cornerbacks and some more seasoned Wide Receivers. Caldwell's DROPS are just not the recipe for a championship team. Saints! |
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Caldwell's Drops??? Is he on the Saints team??? I understand what you are saying about the finger pointing but the Bears did alot of taunting and other stuff too before Reggie's TD. Brann thank you for saying that to Euph, it just seems like he points out everything in a negative way about anything. Does he want Haslett and Brooks, and possibly Venturi back? Support the team. Or support another team then.
Also as a fan I can place blame on anybody too, and that would be the Ref's for this game. I know, I know if you take away a couple of Penalties and possibly two TO then this is a whole different game. Just my opinion. AP |
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Like the other losses, if we don't turn the ball over, we win. It's obvious that a new kicker (one who can kickoff and who is automatic from at least 45-in) is needed. I love Carney. He's a great guy, and despite that one XP problem, he's been pretty damned solid. It's just a waste to have two guys as PKs.
We had TONS of momentum after Reggie's TD. The defense shut down the Bears on their next possession, and the offense was marching down the field till that missed FG. The wind in the sails started to die down. After that safety, the momentum was completely lost. And no problem, AP. I've been a Saints fan through thick and thin and it galls me when someone older and who has presumably been a Saints fan longer than I've been alive sees fit to whine and complain and point fingers after the best season in franchise history. |
What lost the game was that nice field we got to play on. It look like the cane fields here after the harvest.
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I like to look at the bright side.....we have Brees, Bush, & McCallister for a minimum of 4 more years. Colston will be here for at least 2 more years. And.....I have a feeling that our defense is going to get a serious revamping this offseason. All that says to me "This ain't your daddy's Saints!"
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