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hagan714 02-13-2007 06:28 PM

saints pick in the mock???????????
 
Right now we are starting to look at the area to move into for the draft without selling everything for the pick?
What do you want to do.
trade up?
BPA?
trade down?

Targeted Player for the pick?

pick 14 =1400 pts
pick 27 = 725

http://www.degnan.org/dolphins/draftvaluechart.htm

If we move up to

PICK #18 The Bengals = 950
PICK #19 The Titans = 925
200pts is a value of the 15th pick in the 3rd round.

Titans need a WR so maybe they would do something for Henderson.
At the least it would put us in the cat birds seat for the next level of players.

Stay at 27 and go for BPA and hope some one drops into our laps. But as for secondary help I think the pickings will be thin after NYG, Dallas, NE, and Phili picks. they are looking for the same things we are. CB,S,LB,WR

So BPA options that might here IMO will be
O/ILB Brandon Siler, FLordia
S/CB Michael Griffin,Texas
WR Sidney Rice, South Carolina
TE Zach Miller, Arizona St
CB Marcus McCauley, Fresno State
OG Justin Blalock, Texas
DE/OLB Jarvis Moss, Florida
WR Robert Meachem, Tennessee
DT DeMarcusTyler, North Carolina State
OLB Lawrence Timmons,Florida St.

Yes this is IMO the order of BPA.
Let the debate begin while we wait for the next pick in the Mock .

hagan714 02-13-2007 07:08 PM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
how could I leave him out of it. Wait till the combine. I think he will be in the mix

SaintPauly 02-14-2007 01:35 AM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
Leon Hall CB from Michigan, is still on the board as well. Unless I read it wrong.

fhs623 02-14-2007 08:06 AM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
Amobi Okoye, if he lasts until the 27th pick; otherwise, Paul Posluszny

papz 02-14-2007 08:35 AM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
It would be crazy if Okoye were to drop that low... best value pick in the draft if he were to land with us. Kind of like how Will Smith was when we drafted him.

tapout 02-14-2007 08:39 AM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
there is some depth at cb in the draft
Leon Hall, Michigan
Daymeion Hughes, Cal
Darrelle Revis, Pitt
Aaron Ross, Texas
and i like
Chris Houston, Arkansas
at this rate, in this draft, one of them should be there

hagan714 02-14-2007 11:31 AM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
Dallas is willing to move down in the draft. they think they still can get the player they want.
22 to 27
780 to 680 =100 pts
for a 3rd = 91 = 136
cost you 36 points

SaintPauly 02-14-2007 09:49 PM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
I agree on best player available, but in case you guys haven't noticed, until I picked Leon Hall for the Packers at 16, no one had even picked a CB. I seriously doubt all of the good CBs, are going to be taken between now and 27.

Cornerback HAS to be our top priority. We haven't picked a CB with our first round pick since Alex Molden in 96. It's long overdue.

hagan714 02-14-2007 11:00 PM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
hall is the best of the CB for a cover 2 system and revis is best prospect tofor a one on one cb. then you got alot of questions to answer about the rest. i see alot rounds 2/3 in other drafts moving into the 1/2 rounds because of the weakness of the draft as a whole.

dwiley21 02-15-2007 05:07 PM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
as of right now i believe reggie nelson is available, can play corner or s if harper is slow coming back

hagan714 02-15-2007 05:25 PM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
nelson on the board at #19 would have been a great time to pull the trigger, the best S/CB in the draft would go along way to fill holes in the secondary, 680 to 875 is 195 pts or the 179th pick in the third round. Henderson alone may have been enough to get the titians to bite. think about it you have a #3 CB that can step in an play S from day one. If harper does not come back he is your starter. You never know he could become M&M replacement as the #2 CB, God knows he has the talent. I would have pulled the trigger. Now we have teams picking that need secondary help. the level of talent is going to drop quickly.

SaintPauly 02-16-2007 04:16 AM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
Maybe we should trade down then. If it means the difference between a great fit, or good fit, then I say why not.

hagan714 02-16-2007 10:18 AM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
good point who would want to trade up? first in mind would be the chargers.
They need
Safety - Terrence Kiel is simply not a good player. A playmaker at strong safety is the final thing this defense needs to become elite.

Inside Linebacker - Donnie Edwards will likely be gone this off-season, and Randall Godfrey is near the end of his career. A speedy middle linebacker would be a nice addition to the rotation.

Interior Offensive Line - Depth in the middle of the offensive line is currently lacking.

Wide Receiver - San Diego currently has a solid corps group, but could use a speedy player to stretch the field.

Defensive Tackle - Jamal Williams is the best in the business, but the Chargers have no big guy behind him

so at 27 who would they go after

1 Robert Meachem, WR Tennessee
2 Sidney Rice, WR South Carolina
3 Dwayne Bowe, WR LSU
4 Anthony Gonzalez, WR Ohio State
5 Michael Griffin, S Texas 11 3.4
6 Daymeion Hughes, CB California
7 Justin Blalock, OG Texas

alot would depend on NE first pick at 24 since they both have the same needs. IMO

the jump is only 60 pts. so a 4th (126 46pts) and a 6th (190 15.4 ) would do it.

but who would we go after?
DT Quinn Pitcock
OT Aaron Sears
TE Miller or Olson
who?

papz 02-16-2007 01:57 PM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
I'm for trading down... for a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year. You damn right I'm greedy. :mrgreen:

I'll settle for a 2nd and 3rd this year though. 8)

hagan714 02-16-2007 02:07 PM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
how about Blye in a trade with detriot?
we get blye
swap our 2nd for their 3rd
swap fourth
give a 6th

CheramieIII 02-16-2007 04:04 PM

RE: saints pick in the mock???????????
 
We need a CB and that's what we'll pick unless Payton picks a good one up in FA and if he does it we will should pick the best DT available. Either way we fill a big need. I just think if we get our secondary tight and fill the hole on the defensive line our linebackers will only get better.


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