Jarrett predicted to fall to late 1st round
 

The Kipe, is predicting, along with everyone else on the ESPN panel, that Dwayne Jarrett will fall to the late first, if not the early 2nd round. Due to some poor route running, at the combine. Now, what do we do, if this kid is still there at 27? Have you seen the hands on him? He makes one handed catches, in his sleep. Talk about an outstanding redzone threat. Good size, average speed, more of a posession receiver, but in my opinion destined to be a great wr in the league. Reggie Bush's old teammate, and holds records in just about every recieving category at USC.

Now, I know the history of USC wideouts, is not that great in recent years, BUT, what do you guys think? We could certainly use another scorer, if TB picks up Johnson.

I dont think Jarrett would be a bad pick for us at all. Sure he doesnt have the speed but he seems to have the work ethic that Mike Williams does not have. Also, hes a solid blocker at the wide out spot. He will go over the middle and make the tough catches. And he has great body control and great hands. Other than the speed and YAC, I think hes a solid prospect to at the #2 WR spot.

Like Keyshawn minus the mouth. I wouldn't be upset with this pick. I would still rather see someone on the D-Line though.

He, Colston, and Henderson would be the best young trio in the league. They know that Colston and Henderson can start, and Jarrett would be perfect for the third spot, season. Atleast I think it would be a great trio. I just hope the team does what they think is best.

He would make a nice pick... but Steve Smith would make a better one!

Honestly if he fell that far, it's a no brainer... take him.

Definitely.
This guy is going to be a star.
Keyshawn called him out before the Rose Bowl, and Jarrett responded with an unbelievable game. He would start in front of Henderson by the end of the year.

I would trade out and let some one else take him. He can get lazy if he is not the main focus. route running is sloppy at these times. Heart leaves something to be desired.

We always say this, good players, ALWAYS flourish under good coaches. Payton is the best new coach in the league. I don't see him being lazy.

This is true and is certainly a knock on several USC wideouts. But I think with the way Drew Brees spreads the ball around and the way Payton makes sure to provide players with the opportunity to use their strengths, Jarrett would be excited to join such a high octane offense. Also, this type of situation is vaguely similar to Randy Moss when he came out. Now Jarrett is no comparison to Moss but alot of people feared the same thing with Moss but in his first few years he flourished with the ball being spread around to him and Cris Carter and JAke Reed and he also played with a chip on his shoulder for all the teams that passed on him and let him freefall through the first round. Perhaps a little extra motivation for Jarrett to play with a little more heart.

So do you consider Anquan Boldin a possession receiver? Jarrett is far more polished than Boldin coming out of college and ran the same time as him also.

I wouldn't mind either Jarrett or Ginn here. Look at Jarrett's production at USC... how could anyone complain about picking him? I think that's crazy. Williams and Jarrett are not in the same mold. I hate it when people compare the two just because they went to USC. Williams was a BIG BIG receiver... more of the possession type. Jarrett is a playmaker who isn't at big and has much more agility. Remember some people had Williams as a WR/TE because of his size... the same cannot be said of Jarrett. If you watch USC football since the Pete Carroll era, you would know... they are NOT the same player. Go by what you see, not by what you hear.

i don't want guinn...i watched a lot of OSU games this year and that kid has a serious case of the "droppsies."

he is a burner, but he already have one burner with bad hands(henderson) we don't need another one.

jarret would be a good #2 reciever that would get a chance to prove himself when colston is getting doubled.

So once again, do you consider Anquan Boldin a gamebreaker or a possession receiver? And remember, Boldin ran in the 4.6s also... and he runs away from PLENTY of corners. Saying Jarrett cannot do the same has no merit.

Jarrett tall and lanky... Williams tall and bulky. I'm sure you've noticed that. As far as watching Houston shut down Jarrett... he did the same to Bowe and many other SEC WR's? Does that mean Bowe/Meachem are overhyped and overrated? Maybe Houston is just a really good corner. Did you ever think about that?

Keyshawn Johnson and Keary Colbert was not hyped up coming out of college. So, I don't know what point you were trying to make bring up his name.

And lastly, we're talking about the #27 pick the draft and selecting Jarrett. You might not like him, but considering him there and calling him overhyped or not worth the pick is ludacris.

I recall that Jarrett was hurt during the game against Arkansas and they mainly lined him up as a decoy. Could be wrong on that, though.

Nonetheless, he ate up Leon Hall and spit him out for lunch when they played Michigan, and Hall ran a 4.39 forty. Watch that game again and tell me which of the two looked faster. He might not have the best forty yard dash, but he's fast enough in pads and more importantly, he's a good football player. If we're talking receiver at 27, he's the guy I'd most want to see in black and gold.

My whole point on Jarrett, is the hands. This guy makes outstanding catches, in critical situations. Now I'm sorry, but that has nothing to do with the system your in. The ability to make one handed, leaping catches, when the ball is overthrown, is unique, to the player alone, not the system he plays in. Out of the two, mark my words, jarrett will be more of a play maker than Bowe. I believe what I see, and I have seen nothing but amazing catches from Jarrett. Great blocking as well.

Lazy? lack of speed? Doesn't run good routes?

Did anyone see the Rose Bowl??????

He TORCHED a very good Michigan defense for 205 yards and 2 scores

Last year he 70 catches in 10 games

Hell, he caught 91 when REGGIE and LenDale White were still there.

Just take him

Hate to say this missile, but looks like you are all alone on this one. I have to say, being that I started the post, if Jarrett is there at 27, we should take him. But who knows, the draft NEVER seems to go the way they predict it to anymore. He could be gone by 15, who knows. But if the choice comes down to Jarrett, or Peterson at 27, I say take the WR. We don't need another RB.

In missile's defense, I see his point of having two similar receivers in Colston and Jarrett. But we already have our deep threat with Henderson and we need someone else who can make catches over the middle to take some of the pressure off of Colston. And once again, you can not overlook the willingness and ability of Jarrett to block. If Reggie takes a toss to the outside, turns the corner, and Jarrett has handled the speedy corner on his side, there isnt anyone else on the field that can catch Reggie. Good blocking receivers open up the big play threat from the running game and with Reggie, a solid blocking receiver fits perfectly.

Oh I shouldn't have put those two names in the same sentence. Name one USC receiver who lived up to the hype... Keyshawn. His numbers and accolades don't lie.

You make a good point but WR is just as much a position in need of youth as any position on our defense. Colston should be fine, but remember now he has to deal with the pressure of being the formal #1 WR. Henderson can run three routes - 9 route, deep post, hitch and go. That doesn't help us get first downs unless we are looking for 20+ yard plays. Copper and Jones played well last season but can they really be counted on for 16 games to step up and demand some attention so that teams dont focus on Colston? Patten certainly has the experience and at times in his career has played terrific. But you do not know what you are getting out of him after his stint in Washington. And he certainly isnt getting any younger. Bringing in a young target to take the pressure of Colston or to look to supplant Patten in a few years is just as much of a "need" as taking a CB to take the pressure of David or to take over for McKenzie in a few years.

I think the beauty of the BPA approach that we can take is we can say Who is the best WR, CB, DT, and LB available? Outside of those positions, who is the best player overall player available? Does the best overall player even if he is a OG do more for us than the best WR, CB, DT, or LB? Yes, we take him. If not, then compare the BPA's available for those 4 positions and whoever is the highest on your draft board, you take.

[QUOTE=saintsmissile;128127]What I'm saying here is, if we end up taking a wr at 27, I would rather it be a speed guy. A guy who can stretch the field on a continual basis. /QUOTE]

The knocks on Jarrett I agree that Im scared of because of the bust potential ala Mike Williams. However, I disagree with this point of needing a speed guy. I think we need exactly what Jarrett and Bowe would give us - another threat in the 8-12 yard range across the middle of the field and solid blockers for the run game. We have Henderson as our speed, deep threat, home run, 2 catches for 100 yards a game guy. And Patten, in his years with the PAts, was also a deep threat. There is no need for another deep threat. With say Ginn and Henderson on the field with Colston, you have two guys running 9 routes down the sideline with one receiver coming across the middle. There is no use in our offense for two receivers running deep posts and fly patterns. We have that speed guy. Now, Ginn might be an exception because of what he could with catching a short pass and taking it the distance. But once again, with lining up Reggie at wide out, you have that aspect taken care of. I see your point of having too many "possession" wide receivers but I think you are incorrectly applying this word. 4.4 speed does not mean that a guy isnt a possession receiver (see Marvin Harrison). Guys like Steve Smith and Anthony Gonzalez in this draft ran that type of time, but they are well known and highly regarded as "possession" receivers. I look at it not from a possession vs deep threat standpoint but that there are three ways to get seperation and get open in football: 1. Speed, you simply outrun the guy trying to cover you. My issue with this is that in the NFL today, a 4.4 and even a 4.3 is becoming more and more a dime a dozen so you can not just rely on pure speed anymore (see Troy Willamson). Thus, I would prefer a "possession" receiver that can get open using 2. Crafty route running, as only the elite CBs can consistenly cover guys like this. or 3. Great use of the body to gain seperation, as only the elite and the bigger CBs can consistently cover guys like this. Thus, I see guys like Steve Smith and Anthony Gonzalez (route runners), Bowe and Jarrett (great use of large bodies) as being more valuable to our offense that already has the deep threats and the guys that can take the short pass the distance.

I could see Ross, if he is available, being a better pick than one of these wideouts because the position is so deep. But I think the need at LB is as much as the need at WR and that the players that will be available will not contribute initially and do not have the same long term potential as Jarrett. So if hes available, and Ross or Revis is there, then fine. IF not, then I think it will be hard pressed to find a better BPA or a guy that fills somewhat of a need for us.

I've said this before, and we all need to remember it, going into tomorrow. Payton, essentially, is an "offensive" minded coach. I just have a feeling, that with David, and Grant recently signed, he's going to go offense, with the first pick. I don't know why, just a gut feeling. They even speculated, at one time, that they were thinking about Zach Miller, or Greg Olsen, at the first pick. Now, TE is not really an issue anymore, but, if one of these guys is available, and they are the BPA, then do we take?

I do not want us to spend our first rounder on Olsen and dont think that Miller is worthy of a first round pick. I really cant imagine Olsen being the BPA when we are picking. He is a solid receiving threat but so is Eric Johnson. The problem with Olsen is that he is not a strong blocker and doesnt seem to show a willingness to block. There is a thread about "Who we DONT want to see drafted" and myself and plenty of others named Olsen as one of the guys we dont want to see drafted.