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Originally Posted by papz (Post 132230)

I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow.

It is rare, but it does happen, looking at this years prospects only...

Joe Thomas 4.92
Joe Staley 4.82
Allen Barbe 4.84
Jermon Bushrod 4.95
Gabe Hall 4.91

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 132230)

I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow.

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 132230)

I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow.

Yes, his 40 time is slow, that doesn't always mean he'll play slow. I personally feel 40 times are important, but way over-rated. Ray Lewis had a slow 40 time, he's one of the fastest MLB's I've ever seen play. Its all gonna depend on how fast he plays with pads on.

But yeah, if he has to race someone 40 yards, from a complete stop, in shorts and a T-shirt, untouched, he's in big trouble.

Or if he doesn't play faster than he times, he won't last long, obviously.

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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 132231)

ALL the MLB's in the league currently, I'm sure you would find a whole bunch who run around a 4.8. If he were a OLB 4.8 would be a big problem. Do you think Vaughn Johnson or Sam Mills ran a 4.5 forty? Got news for you, the answer is NOPE!

4.8 isn't the same as 4.95... and I doubt Johnson and Mills ran close to 5.0 40 either.

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I guess we'll find out on the field. I'm not rooting against the guy, but the odds are stacked against him. He's got a lot of work to do.

Speed is over rated

I don't care if you run a 4.3, if your reaction time is slow you will not make many plays. But you can run a 4.9 and have good instincts and reaction time you will constantly put yourself in place to make more plays. Payton wants football playas, I don't think he is as impressed with 40 times. Hasslet on the other hand was all about how they did in the combine. I bet Payton didn't draft him because of his 40 time, he must see a football playa ready to bust out. If not no one will remember it anyway, because 7th round picks are long shot to make the team.

but you can't measure the heart until he is on the field so until he gets on the field... you can't call him the next Ray Lewis either.

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 132266)

but you can't measure the heart until he is on the field so until he gets on the field... you can't call him the next Ray Lewis either.

No one here called him the next Ray Lewis.

The kids a 7th round pick nothing more, lets hold off judging him until we see how he looks during training camp. Besides if he proves to be worthy of making the final roster cool, it just strengthens our team if not, no biggie.

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Originally Posted by blacksaint (Post 132282)

Well put. Why didn't someone write that 3 pages ago?

This guy is still barely 50-50 to even make the team. If he does not shine on special teams in training camp, he has no shot.

What are we debating anyways? He's slow... that's a fact. I don't think anyone hear said he can't make the team and can't turn out to be a solid player. I don't think anyone said he doesn't have good football instinct. He just has a lot of work to do.