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blacksaint 06-23-2007 08:14 PM

It was a discussion between Payton and Drew, no one on this forum will ever question the place in glory that Archie hold in Saints history and our hearts. But you can't tell me if Drew win about three Superbowl's he won't be on that same pedestal as Archie, trust me guys Drew would become the bench mark for every other QB to follow, like Sean Payton will become the bench mark for all coaches who follow him. When we talk about defenses we always compare them to the DOME PATROL and rightfully so, if Brees win one Superbowl in a New Orleans uniform, every QB that comes through here will be compared to Drew hands down. Archie will forever be loved and respected for what he meant to the team, the fans, the community, and the whole Gulf Region, but if Drew gets that ring, he would be worship like a god.

papz 06-23-2007 08:26 PM

Very well put blacksaint and I definately agree with that.

hagan714 06-23-2007 08:54 PM

the two would be gods. i agree. But Archies' story is completly different. no better or worse than the superbowl winner. Archie has the goal that all other QB's have to messure up to. Guts and loyality. that is my point. Drew is the closest thing I have seen to him. Now add a superbowl ring and I am sure Archie will be willing to slide over and make room for him on that pedestal. But Drew has to prove the tuffness. That is something I am sure he will do. No one QB will replace the other. No way.

blacksaint 06-23-2007 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 132437)
the two would be gods. i agree. But Archies' story is completly different. no better or worse than the superbowl winner. Archie has the goal that all other QB's have to messure up to. Guts and loyality. that is my point. Drew is the closest thing I have seen to him. Now add a superbowl ring and I am sure Archie will be willing to slide over and make room for him on that pedestal. But Drew has to prove the tuffness. That is something I am sure he will do. No one QB will replace the other. No way.

I think Drew Brees proved his toughness last year, and nobody has the right to question it. Coming from that career threatening shoulder injury and having the type of season he had last year proves his toughness and guts without a doubt.

SapperSaint 06-24-2007 07:20 AM

We are all right.

Drew will and is right now, loved by all Saints fans. How can you not.?.?

When Drew leads us to a SB victory, retires with a Saints jersey on his back, yes, I will put him in the same heart felt feelings I have for Archie. Hell, I love Bobby for less reasons. It's just great that we have a great QB, and not just great because he plays almost flawlessly.

hagan714 06-24-2007 07:33 AM

Hey blacksaint did you watch archie play?
Look I am knocking Drew at all but he has a long way to go in the "takening a beaten on the field" department. I hope he never has has too. If he does we would not be talking superbowls here. Nobody wins with that kind of OL.
Like I said there is room on the pedistal for more than one QB legend in new orleans. Each will have thier own clam to fame.
Heck I like Chris Evert myself.

SapperSaint 06-24-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 132464)
Heck I like Chris Evert myself.

I liked it when hit Jim Rome.

cadilacin 06-24-2007 09:23 PM

well said
 
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Originally Posted by blacksaint (Post 132435)
It was a discussion between Payton and Drew, no one on this forum will ever question the place in glory that Archie hold in Saints history and our hearts. But you can't tell me if Drew win about three Superbowl's he won't be on that same pedestal as Archie, trust me guys Drew would become the bench mark for every other QB to follow, like Sean Payton will become the bench mark for all coaches who follow him. When we talk about defenses we always compare them to the DOME PATROL and rightfully so, if Brees win one Superbowl in a New Orleans uniform, every QB that comes through here will be compared to Drew hands down. Archie will forever be loved and respected for what he meant to the team, the fans, the community, and the whole Gulf Region, but if Drew gets that ring, he would be worship like a god.

Well said sir. I like what Archie was for us, but "when" Drew brings the ring home he'll be put in a class all by himself. But I did love the "guts and loyalty" of Archie.

blacksaint 06-24-2007 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 132464)
Hey blacksaint did you watch archie play?
Look I am knocking Drew at all but he has a long way to go in the "takening a beaten on the field" department. I hope he never has has too. If he does we would not be talking superbowls here. Nobody wins with that kind of OL.
Like I said there is room on the pedistal for more than one QB legend in new orleans. Each will have thier own clam to fame.
Heck I like Chris Evert myself.

Yo hagan, I not only watched Archie, my dad and uncle used to do business with the Saints back in those days and I still have my official Archie Manning autographed helmet, along with a whole lot of other autographed memorabilia. I have a Archie throwback jersey, along with my Ricky Jackson, Sam Mills, Vaughn Johnson, Pat Swilling, Dalton Hilliard, Eric Martin, and Wllie Roaf, that I do not wear. Archie Manning is an icon period, but Drew would become a GOD if he's able to bring a Championship home, I have all the love and the utmost respect for Archie, he will always have a place in my heart. But to perfectly honest with you Archie is not my favorite all-time #1 player in Saints history, he's definitely one of them, but my all time #1 Saints player is the Hall Of Fame snubbed Ultimate Warrior Ricky Jackson, talk about GUTS and TOUGHNESS, nobody in the Black & Gold had more.

Euphoria 06-24-2007 11:45 PM

I can't see how or why we are even discussing this issue. Two different era's, different styles, talent level around qb's. You can't even begin to compare.


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