Oliver blows it / Neb OT Patrick does not
 

June 21
(12:01 AM): Dawgs’ CB has dog of a pre-draft workout… According to a report by Len Pasquarelli over at ESPN Georgia CB Paul Oliver did not have a very impressive outing when he worked out in front of over two dozen NFL scouts and personnel people prior to next month’s supplemental draft. Oliver, who been listed at over 6 feet and almost 210 pounds by the school, actually measured in at just 5-10.5 and 195 pounds. Worse for Oliver, he only ran in the mid-to-high 4.5 range for the 40, with at least one team reportedly timing in over 4.6 seconds. Oliver also didn’t score all that well in some of the other tests posting just a 33-inch vertical leap and a 3-cond drill time of over 7.3 seconds. For the record, that time in the 3-cone drill would have been the second worst among CBs at this year’s scouting combine, while the vertical leap would also have been in the lower third of combine participants at the position. Prior to the workout, Oliver had been graded in the second round area but that is likely to drop. Oliver had considered entering the regular 2007 draft as an underclassmen but ultimately opted to return to school, however, he was later declared academically ineligible for the upcoming season and applied for entry in the supplemental draft. Any team that selects a player in the supplemental draft will forfeit its corresponding choice in the 2008 draft.
Two more added to supp draft list… Courtesy of regular contributor Greg Hansen and reader Angelo Wright, there are a couple of more players that have applied to next month’s supplemental draft. Joining Georgia CB paul Oliver and Nebraska OT Chris Patrick on the list are 320-pound Morgan State DT Robert Armstrong and Texas State LB mark Washington. We will have full draft reports on all the supp draft applicants next week.

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Coaches, area scouts, and college scouting directors from a dozen NFL teams were on hand Monday in Lincoln, Neb., for the pro day workout of offensive lineman Chris Patrick. The supplemental draft prospect hoped to turn in an impressive performance and here are the results.


The workout started late in the afternoon and was held indoors. According to a source at the workout, the conditions were not favorable as it was excessively hot. In an unusual move, Patrick was measured after the workout was completed. His 6-foot-4.5 frame weighed 296 pounds.

Patrick's workout numbers included 5.30 seconds in the forty, 4.50 seconds in the short shuttle, a vertical jump of 27 inches and 31 repetitions on the bench press. He was later put through a battery of offensive line drills by Kansas City Chiefs assistant offensive line coach Bob Bicknell.

Last evening, Patrick, who is projected as an interior lineman, was interviewed one-on-one by the Atlanta Falcons. Prior to today's workout, he spent time with the Philadelphia Eagles, New York Giants, New England Patriots, Minnesota Vikings, Baltimore Ravens, Oakland Raiders, Kansas City Chiefs, Green Bay Packers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and New Orleans Saints.

When will Patrick be selected in next month's supplemental draft?

Scouts on hand felt had he entered April's draft and went through the entire pre-draft process there was a chance Patrick would have slipped into the fourth round.

The way it stands now, considering any team who selects Patrick must not only forfeit the corresponding pick in the 2008 draft but must count his salary against the 2007 rookie cap, he is likely to be a late-round selection.

Ok now where does the debate go from here. :D

how many players from obscure schools are entering sup. draft?

Joining Georgia CB paul Oliver and Nebraska OT Chris Patrick on the list are 320-pound Morgan State DT Robert Armstrong and Texas State LB mark Washington. We will have full draft reports on all the supp draft applicants next week.

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Doesn't phase me much. I'd still throw a 3rd out there and see if we could get him.

I agree-

If anything, it helps our chances.

I think this is great news. We know this kid has raw athletic ability and we know he knows how to cover. All a bad workout did was push his draft stock down so that we can get him with a 5th instead of a 2nd. I've come to the point where I think Payton can get the best out of any player and if he can't then he cuts him and we lose a fifth next year. Not too much of a risk.

Hell with your analysis... I have great raw athletic ability. We knew he couldn't run before the work out nothing has changed and we might as well hold on to our draft pics for next year, we'll have weakness exposed this year and some players gone that will need to be addressed.

I'd take what he has done ON THE FIELD(which had him rated as one of, if not the top corner in next year's draft going into the season) as opposed to what happened in a rushed workout before the supplemental draft, but that's just me.

If this guy didn't know he was going to workout for the scouts in advance i'm not sure i'd want him. It doesn't say much about his work ethic or he's just to stupid to care. The guy flunked out months ago, surely he knew he had to do something? He doesn't sound like a Payton kind of guy to me!

Isn't that a bit contradicting?

The only thing that held Calvin Johnson to 13 yards was Reggie Ball being a crappy quarterback.

It doesn't matter when he flunked out really. Maybe there was procedures for him to attempt to get back in school, or an attempt to see if he could do summer school to make up the grades. He and his agent know he would lose money going in the supplemental as opposed to the regular draft. Millions of dollars. So it had to be a last resprt. What matters is when he declared for the supplemental, and going from that point. But I still think there's no way he could have been able to do a "combine type" ramp up before this workout, unlike players who did work out at the combine. I'd take my chances with him under Payton. I haven't seen anything that says he isn't a Payton kind of guy on the field.

This guy didn't apply himself to his grades, didn't apply himself to working out and being ready to impress the scouts. Am I suppose to believe he is going to apply himself each and every week to be a team player and win games for us??? The only way I see the Saints getting him is to give a first rounder next year... someone before us in the second will snag him perhpas and I think even a second maybe to much to give up. 3rd???

Obviously he did apply himself to his grades, cause, ya know, he would have been a senior. Maybe he had some personal issues or maybe school just wasn't for him. Not every football player, and surprisingly few, are Rhodes scholars or academic all americans. He is a good football player and hasn't gotten in trouble off the field.

As far as applying himself to work out, Mike Mamula applied himself to work out. How'd that do for him? Colston didn't have the most impressive workouts either and he was projected as a TE in the NFL, how'd that work out. Again, work outs are a sample to look at, but what you do on the field is far more impressive. The kid can obviously play.

Last, we are not gonna give up a first rounder for him. If that's what it takes, we don't get him. But obviously if you feel SOMEONE will give up a second for him, then SOMEONE must think he can play in the league cause supplemental picks usually do not garner 2nd rounders.

Hey I work out to but its not working for me to get into the NFL. There are a lot of teams looking at him, teams look at everyone just to see now-a-days. Even the Pats of stirred some interest. Realistically where we sit/projected draft position isn't that great, giving up a 1 or 2 is to much. Will another team offer that??? I'd say some teams may give up a 3rd for him at best and that will still leave us out. The question you have to ask yourself... "is he worth a first or second"?

I'd give up a second, but not a first. If we can't get him for a second, then more power to whomever drafts him.

from what i understand, the supplemental draft is kinda like ebay....theres no bidding for him....we say what pick we would give for him, and at the end of the day, whoever has the lower pick, ges him. Like a secret ballot

You're almost exactly right. Browns bid a Second and everyone else bids a 3rd then the Browns get him and they lose the second round pick for next year. Its bidding alright not like a regular draft (you wait your turn and take the player). You're bidding and doing a secret ballot. The one with the lowest bid gets him.