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ssmitty 06-25-2007 02:12 PM

talk about a quick ax...........
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2916083

Papa Voodoo 06-25-2007 02:47 PM

Tank Johnson Waived
 
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/New...?story_id=3549

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LAKE FOREST, Ill. – The Bears stood by and supported Tank Johnson throughout a series of transgressions, but violating the club’s no-tolerance policy cost him his job.

The Bears on Monday waived the troubled defensive tackle, who was pulled over and arrested by police in Arizona at 3:30 a.m. Friday.

“We are upset and embarrassed by Tank’s actions last week,” said general manager Jerry Angelo. “He compromised the credibility of our organization. We made it clear to him that he had no room for error. Our goal was to help someone through a difficult period in his life, but the effort needs to come from both sides. It didn’t, and we have decided to move on.”

He was driving 40 in a 25 and was released after a Slightly Impaired DUI stop.

WhoDat205 06-25-2007 03:30 PM

Yeah, Da Bears are heading to .500 land in a hurry. Good think Lovie redid his contract when he did.

WVSaint 06-25-2007 04:35 PM

He'll be a Bengal within the hour.

papz 06-25-2007 04:36 PM

LOL... that gave me a nice laugh.

saintsrule 06-25-2007 04:51 PM

I don't believe someone should be cut from a team, because of something off the field. But he has to understand about racial profiling. I hope the Saints try to get him signed.

JOESAM2002 06-25-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsrule (Post 132587)
I don't believe someone should be cut from a team, because of something off the field. But he has to understand about racial profiling. I hope the Saints try to get him signed.

Surely you jest?

ssmitty 06-25-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsrule (Post 132587)
I don't believe someone should be cut from a team, because of something off the field. But he has to understand about racial profiling. I hope the Saints try to get him signed.

HUH?.............................

graywolfkris 06-25-2007 05:13 PM

off the field behavior affects on the field as much as anything I belive the Saints will avoid him like the plague

Cassady37 06-25-2007 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsrule (Post 132587)
I don't believe someone should be cut from a team, because of something off the field. But he has to understand about racial profiling. I hope the Saints try to get him signed.

To quote the Geico caveman...."Uh....What??!"

Papa Voodoo 06-25-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassady37 (Post 132593)
To quote the Geico caveman...."Uh....What??!"

http://www.cavemanscrib.com

Hilarious!

saintsfan1976 06-25-2007 07:06 PM

HEY!! What's that supposed to mean, exactly?? x(

MatthewT 06-25-2007 07:43 PM

"He was driving 40 in a 25 and was released after a Slightly Impaired DUI stop".

I am no legal expert by any stretch of the imagination, but this sounds like an issue of speeding, with a low BAC when tested for alcohol. This should be enough to get him off of any possible DUI charges, but maybe enough to get him back in jail. From what I read in the past, most jurisdictions can still charge a person with DUI even when that person is under the .08 threshold. Probably only matters in the sense of legal terms for Tank, more jail time or not. Either way, I would bet he gets his suspension from the NFL extended to include the entire 2007 season.

The Saints should not even think about signing this guy. What a dork...

biloxi-indian 06-26-2007 08:53 AM

Here is what one fan wrote.....
 
"He was arrested for owning enough guns and ammo to equip a Tank. The Bears Tanked in the Super Bowl. He served 60 days in the Tank and ate enough junk food to fill a Tanker. He was Tanked for eight games by new Commish, and then got pulled over for being slightly Tanked. Now he's been cut, and he's left holding his Johnson. I'd say they gave this guy the perfect name."

Euphoria 06-27-2007 11:59 AM

Tank!
 
After a nights sleep on it... GO GET HIM!!!

I agree with ESPN that in a couple of weeks he'll start generating interests and he will be signed by someone. They even mentioned "a team like New Orleans".

He'll miss 8 weeks with the suspension but but he'll be there for the last leg of the seasona and our SB run.

joshl855 06-27-2007 12:07 PM

yes it seems like clayton thinks we are interested in him...

http://rotoworld.com/content/clubhou...NFL&majteam=NO

for the second one u need NFL Insider to read it..

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors

Papa Voodoo 06-27-2007 12:08 PM

Only if he's cheap and has a 0 tolerance policy that voids his contract if he continues his John Sullivan behavior. Even then, I'd make him a backup unitl he proves he is worth it. We have Clancy, Thomas, and Young who are solid DTs plus the rotation guys. He'll probably get a big contract from Dallas or the Raiders.

BTW, is Brooks on anyone's roster?

Cassady37 06-27-2007 12:12 PM

All it takes is one player with a history of run-ins with the law to spark a team's downward spiral. Maybe a couple of players like him, want to start hanging out with him, soon, a few more, then the inevitable happens and that player does something else to get in trouble and the team releases him. Now his 'friends' ,who have grown to like him and buy in to the BS he spouts, take an attitude with the powers that be. Shortly thereafter you have a divided locker room and all the hard work that was put into building a championship caliber team is suddenly teetering on becoming a Bengals team. You may say this view is extreme but I say, after all the years of seeing what used to be in our locker room, do you really want to chance it? Taking a chance with a borderline player when we know we can make a Superbowl run with what we have?

biloxi-indian 06-27-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 132728)
After a nights sleep on it... GO GET HIM!!!

I agree with ESPN that in a couple of weeks he'll start generating interests and he will be signed by someone. They even mentioned "a team like New Orleans".

He'll miss 8 weeks with the suspension but but he'll be there for the last leg of the seasona and our SB run.

The 8 week suspension was for the first infraction, this one may bring even more on. He is on probation and will most likely serve more time due his behavior. Also, the Saints have shown little tolerance for this type behavior...look at Kuale and how fast they jetisoned him (knowing full well Kuale does not possess the skills of Tank).

I say pass and look at Walker from the Bills.

9thWardDesire 06-27-2007 12:53 PM

Sign Tank Johnson, with Roger Goodell running this ship like 'Dirty Harry', what are the chances if the Saints were to sign Tank "Cover Me!!!" Johnson, they would wind up losing day 1 draft picks, or the other penalties that may affect the Saints?

DON'T DO IT, LOOMIS!!!!

Nemesis 06-27-2007 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassady37 (Post 132732)
All it takes is one player with a history of run-ins with the law to spark a team's downward spiral. Maybe a couple of players like him, want to start hanging out with him, soon, a few more, then the inevitable happens and that player does something else to get in trouble and the team releases him. Now his 'friends' ,who have grown to like him and buy in to the BS he spouts, take an attitude with the powers that be. Shortly thereafter you have a divided locker room and all the hard work that was put into building a championship caliber team is suddenly teetering on becoming a Bengals team. You may say this view is extreme but I say, after all the years of seeing what used to be in our locker room, do you really want to chance it? Taking a chance with a borderline player when we know we can make a Superbowl run with what we have?

Yes, that was extreme. Tank was never a locker room cancer. One player cannot bring down a team full of players on a mision to reach the promised land. Not this team. Not these players. Simmons and his buddy from Sinsinaty came here, attracted by the positive atmosphere. Same reason the old Niners and the Pats bag players. People said Dillon would be a cancer.

Cassady37 06-27-2007 03:15 PM

I respectfully disagree, when you go to jail, miss eight games when you're team needs you and then violate your probation, you're a 'cancer'. And now the team doesn't have him at all. You don't see any adverse effects that has on the Bears? Why chance that with this team? And as far as Dillon, Simmons and buddy are concerned, you're comparing apples to oranges, they aren't bringing negative baggage in terms of prison time and another run-in with the law. And the reason this team is focused and on a 'mission' is because we don't have players like that here to disrupt with outside activity. And one player, if allowed to stay on the team, can bring down a whole team. maybe not entirely by himself but he can go a long ways towards that end. Just ask anyone associated with T.O.

Nemesis 06-27-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 132662)
body guard was killed outside a nightclub after all those guns found at his house. Thug, pure and simple. Goddell gives him another chance and then he screws up yet again. These guys can hire body guards but not hire drivers or take taxi's? Stupidity comes to mind. I don't want this BUM on my team, that's for sure.

This "thug" term is thrown around too quickly by some. Tanks didn't shoot at anyone. He paid his dues for having unregistered weapons in his home. A misdemeanor. He drove 40 in a 25, and couldn't blow enough fumes to be arrested. Until subsequent testing results come in, I'm reserving judgement.

A commited Tank may pan out to be another in a long line of windfalls blessing the Saints, through strange circumstances. Brees..Colston..Simmons..Fujita..Matrix..
You get the picture. Tank is a stud, and wouldn't cost a draft pick. How often would prospects of his caliber even fall to us in the draft? If he doesn't work out... Oh, well. We'll move along. The sun will still rise the next morn. The Saints will still be contenders.

Nemesis 06-27-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassady37 (Post 132741)
I respectfully disagree, when you go to jail, miss eight games when you're team needs you and then violate your probation, you're a 'cancer'. And now the team doesn't have him at all. You don't see any adverse effects that has on the Bears? Why chance that with this team? And as far as Dillon, Simmons and buddy are concerned, you're comparing apples to oranges, they aren't bringing negative baggage in terms of prison time and another run-in with the law. And the reason this team is focused and on a 'mission' is because we don't have players like that here to disrupt with outside activity. And one player, if allowed to stay on the team, can bring down a whole team. maybe not entirely by himself but he can go a long ways towards that end. Just ask anyone associated with T.O.

We have a good DT rotation, and Tank would merely be a matter of risk/reward. Same as TO and Moss. The Pats and Cowgirls can afford to take those risks, because they'll roll on without those players. So will the Saints.

Say what you will about TO, but he's one of the most feared WRs in the league. Jones vouches for him, and that's good enough for me.

Euphoria 06-27-2007 04:05 PM

He isn't a thug... and he did his time and now the NFL's suspension, there has been other players to get DUI's but I don't think it will result in any more games. This DUI as weird that they called it SLIGHT. Get him a check and a jersay and tell him to take a cab for now on.

We are way to close to being serious contenders... its a slight risk and huge reward.

See you week 9, Tank.

WhoDat205 06-28-2007 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 132752)
He isn't a thug... and he did his time and now the NFL's suspension, there has been other players to get DUI's but I don't think it will result in any more games. This DUI as weird that they called it SLIGHT. Get him a check and a jersay and tell him to take a cab for now on.

We are way to close to being serious contenders... its a slight risk and huge reward.

See you week 9, Tank.

Also had some time to think on this one...I really feel like Tank is trying to turn it around. As a counter to the "locker room cancer" argument, he may just need the right environment to pull out of his "downward spiral".

He's a quality DT that will come at a big discount. I think the team should seriously consider persuing Tank.

saintsfan1976 06-28-2007 08:20 AM

Which Bear Brass was the one that actually pulled the trigger on Tank? We all know it wasn't Lovie!

From what we've seen of Lovie, he will stick it out with a player through thick and thin....take Grossman for example. Now "Rexy" 'aint no "Tank". It seems odd to me that the Bears would be so quick to eject Tank unless word came down from above that Tank has to go to save face for our organization.

Now on to the traffic stop.... Why aren't the Bears waiting to see the outcome? The officer could have pulled Tank over for "suspicion" and halfway into the routine, realized he had nothing and had no choice but to let him go. Maybe the "slight impairment" comes as a result of backpeddaling by the officer to cover his own a$$....

saintsfan1976 06-28-2007 08:23 AM

And as far as signing Tank to the Saints.... I'm still up in the air.

Risk vs. Reward. Does it balance for Coach Payton? Has he EVER tipped the scales in the favor of risk? He's already done his "spring cleaning" of the organization.... Why would he want to bring a dirty dog into his clean house?

On the other hand, having him in the organization for 8 games at no risk could benefit our team tremendously. Smith, Grant, Tank????


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