Saints WR - Who Emerges?

Danno · 07-04-2007, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Good article.

"starter" is a relative term here. Technically Copper was the starter after Horn went down last year. We will see a lot of 3 receiver sets and a lot of different combinations, so who is out there for the first snap is not important.

That said,
I see Meachem coming on slowly, and then playing a big role later in the year.

I love that Patten is healthy and can contribute- he is #2 in my eyes.

Copper does not have the hands to be a 2 or 3. If we keep 2 rookie WR's on the practice squad, he might gone by the end of the year, although he is strong on special teams.

Henderson is at a turning point; it's now or never. His avg might be 23 yards per catch, but his yards-per-drop is even higher. Hopefully he accepts the challenge and steps up in 07.

Why do you say Copper doesn't have the hands? I know he fumbled twice, but I don't remember many, if any, drops at all.

1. Colston
2. Patten
3. Copper
4. Henderson
5. Meachem
6. Jammal Jones or Lance Moore (depends on ST performances)

From Stats inc...
Incomplete Pass Information
Terrance Copper 2006
Targets 42
Drops 0
Percent Caught 54.8
Percent First Down 42.9
http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/playerst...d=7109&team=18

blacksaint · 07-04-2007, 02:36 PM

Don't forget the impact TE Eric Johnson is going to have on the amount of passes that go around. If he stays healthy he will probably get about 35 to 45 passes thrown his way. That's just one more weapon in the arsenal of the most potent offense in the NFL.

FireVenturi · 07-04-2007, 08:38 PM

i hope they all emerge......victorious baby! seriously, i like 1 colston 2 copper 3 devery, wide open after that.

ScottF · 07-04-2007, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Why do you say Copper doesn't have the hands? I know he fumbled twice, but I don't remember many, if any, drops at all.
http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/playerst...d=7109&team=18

Honestly, I do not know what is defined as a drop. I do know he should have caught the ball vs Pittsburgh on the last drive of the game. I think he then fumbled on the next play.

I am not totally down on the guy, I just don't think he will be in the top 3 or 4.

Danno · 07-05-2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Honestly, I do not know what is defined as a drop. I do know he should have caught the ball vs Pittsburgh on the last drive of the game. I think he then fumbled on the next play.

I am not totally down on the guy, I just don't think he will be in the top 3 or 4.

I think a drop is only counted on "on-target" passes. It may be that he dropped several balls that were behind him, or at his feet or too far in front, but ones that a lot of WR's could catch it.

I've read that he's had a really good off-season and is an exceptional locker room guy, great work ethic, and Payton really likes the kid a lot. I would not be shocked if he lined up opposite Colston opening week. I'd be a little surprised, but definitely not shocked at all.

Oh, I found this...
Dropped Pass: Any incomplete pass which was catchable with normal effort. STATS compares and reviews the judgement of multiple reporters to determine if a pass was dropped.

ScottyRo · 07-05-2007, 12:41 PM

That's a good enough definition of a drop for me.

07-04-2007, 02:19 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by ScottF Good article. "starter" is a relative term here. Technically Copper was the starter after Horn went down last year. We will see a lot of 3 receiver sets and a lot of different combinations, so who is out there for the first snap is not important. That said, I see Meachem coming on slowly, and then playing a big role later in the year. I love that Patten is healthy and can contribute- he is #2 in my eyes. Copper does not have the hands to be a 2 or 3. If we keep 2 rookie WR's on the practice squad, he might gone by the end of the year, although he is strong on special teams. Henderson is at a turning point; it's now or never. His avg might be 23 yards per catch, but his yards-per-drop is even higher. Hopefully he accepts the challenge and steps up in 07. Why do you say Copper doesn't have the hands? I know he fumbled twice, but I don't remember many, if any, drops at all. 1. Colston 2. Patten 3. Copper 4. Henderson 5. Meachem 6. Jammal Jones or Lance Moore (depends on ST performances) From Stats inc... Incomplete Pass Information Terrance Copper 2006 Targets 42 Drops 0 Percent Caught 54.8 Percent First Down 42.9 http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/playerst...d=7109&team=18
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07-04-2007, 11:26 PM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by Danno Why do you say Copper doesn't have the hands? I know he fumbled twice, but I don't remember many, if any, drops at all. http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/playerst...d=7109&team=18 Honestly, I do not know what is defined as a drop. I do know he should have caught the ball vs Pittsburgh on the last drive of the game. I think he then fumbled on the next play. I am not totally down on the guy, I just don't think he will be in the top 3 or 4.

07-05-2007, 11:16 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by ScottF Honestly, I do not know what is defined as a drop. I do know he should have caught the ball vs Pittsburgh on the last drive of the game. I think he then fumbled on the next play. I am not totally down on the guy, I just don't think he will be in the top 3 or 4. I think a drop is only counted on "on-target" passes. It may be that he dropped several balls that were behind him, or at his feet or too far in front, but ones that a lot of WR's could catch it. I've read that he's had a really good off-season and is an exceptional locker room guy, great work ethic, and Payton really likes the kid a lot. I would not be shocked if he lined up opposite Colston opening week. I'd be a little surprised, but definitely not shocked at all. Oh, I found this... Dropped Pass: Any incomplete pass which was catchable with normal effort. STATS compares and reviews the judgement of multiple reporters to determine if a pass was dropped.
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07-04-2007, 02:36 PM	#2
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Don't forget the impact TE Eric Johnson is going to have on the amount of passes that go around. If he stays healthy he will probably get about 35 to 45 passes thrown his way. That's just one more weapon in the arsenal of the most potent offense in the NFL.

07-04-2007, 08:38 PM	#3
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	i hope they all emerge......victorious baby! seriously, i like 1 colston 2 copper 3 devery, wide open after that.

07-05-2007, 12:41 PM	#6
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	That's a good enough definition of a drop for me.