Deal or no deal for Samuels and Briggs.....

WhoDat205 · 07-17-2007, 08:33 AM

SaintFan said it. You gotta realize that 7+ Mil is the going rate for all-pro DB/LBs. They've got a future to think about and a "lack of marketable skills" to go with it. A broken leg or worse and their career is over. We average Joe's get to work until we're 65 or older...broken leg or not.

It's pretty clear that the Owners and Players need to revisit the Franchise Tag at the next round of CBA negotiations.

bobcat4u2 · 07-17-2007, 10:40 AM

the day all contracts become fully guaranteed is when players should honor their contracts without blinking.owners can get out of most contracts much easier than players,so i can't blame players for doing all they can to get their share,especially those that have earned it on the field,not from draft opinion.

SapperSaint · 07-17-2007, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

SaintFan said it. You gotta realize that 7+ Mil is the going rate for all-pro DB/LBs. They've got a future to think about and a "lack of marketable skills" to go with it. A broken leg or worse and their career is over. We average Joe's get to work until we're 65 or older...broken leg or not.

I see what you are saying brother. However, folks in the military are just like athletes, only we don't have an offseason. I have no, NO cartalige left in either of my knees, a compressed vertibre and a tore "Lower Back Strap" that will never fully heal.

And yet while we do make good money for what we do, if the military can't use us....we are gone. Retirement or no retirement. (Yes, I know pro sports doesn't have a retirement plan).

I think these guys are getting paid a little too much to play a kids game.

Now don't get me wrong.... I love sports. But ask yourself this.

If you were a kid just out of college and did not get drafted and were given the chance to play pro football; would you sign a six year deal making $200,000.00 year?

That is alot of zero's folks. I don't think anyone is making that kind of money here. Then again, I could be wrong.

ScottyRo · 07-17-2007, 01:56 PM

I kind of think that $8 Million is pretty good security. It would set me for life. Plus, it is "guaranteed" from the perspective that he gets all of it unless he gets cut.

So, all we are really talking about is his future ability to make millions per year in case he get s hurt this year. A player so worried should insure himself against injury (I'm drawing a blank on the London-based insurer who would do this). It may cost him some money, but at least he'd be compensated for loss of future earnings if he suffered a career ending injury.

A player under the franchise tag has plenty of options to protect himself.

By the way, the relating players salaries to our own doesn't theory exactly work because this one year salary for the player could, if the player needed it to, last him a lifetime. My salary wouldn't last 2 years even if I cut back to the bone.

WhoDat205 · 07-17-2007, 03:29 PM

Sapper, thanks for your service to the country.

To answer your question, I'm 27 and I would play for the US team that played over in Japan...and I'd do it today, for free...actually, I'd buy the plane ticket and the hotel room, too. So you just tell me which a$$ to kiss to play for 200K a year.

Of course these guys are making waaaaay too much money. I could make $7Mil last for a lifetime (5% interest is $350,000 annually before compounding, taxes), no problem, but that's not the point. The NFL is bringing in Billions of dollars (lots and lots of zeros) and that money's going in someone's pocket.

So I ask you, who's more deserving? Lance Briggs or Virginia McCaskey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Halas_McCaskey)

SapperSaint · 07-17-2007, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Of course these guys are making waaaaay too much money. I could make $7Mil last for a lifetime (5% interest is $350,000 annually before compounding, taxes), no problem, but that's not the point. The NFL is bringing in Billions of dollars (lots and lots of zeros) and that money's going in someone's pocket.

Oh I agree that the owners are making a crap load of money. I just think If player salaries would go down it would be a trickle down effect to us, the ticket buyers.

I know it will never happen so the point is mute.

By the way, you never have to thank me for my service.

07-17-2007, 10:40 AM	#2
bobcat4u2 Registered Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 71	the day all contracts become fully guaranteed is when players should honor their contracts without blinking.owners can get out of most contracts much easier than players,so i can't blame players for doing all they can to get their share,especially those that have earned it on the field,not from draft opinion.
bobcat4u2 Registered Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 71

07-17-2007, 12:58 PM	#3
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by WhoDat205 SaintFan said it. You gotta realize that 7+ Mil is the going rate for all-pro DB/LBs. They've got a future to think about and a "lack of marketable skills" to go with it. A broken leg or worse and their career is over. We average Joe's get to work until we're 65 or older...broken leg or not. I see what you are saying brother. However, folks in the military are just like athletes, only we don't have an offseason. I have no, NO cartalige left in either of my knees, a compressed vertibre and a tore "Lower Back Strap" that will never fully heal. And yet while we do make good money for what we do, if the military can't use us....we are gone. Retirement or no retirement. (Yes, I know pro sports doesn't have a retirement plan). I think these guys are getting paid a little too much to play a kids game. Now don't get me wrong.... I love sports. But ask yourself this. If you were a kid just out of college and did not get drafted and were given the chance to play pro football; would you sign a six year deal making $200,000.00 year? That is alot of zero's folks. I don't think anyone is making that kind of money here. Then again, I could be wrong.
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07-17-2007, 03:29 PM	#5
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Sapper, thanks for your service to the country. To answer your question, I'm 27 and I would play for the US team that played over in Japan...and I'd do it today, for free...actually, I'd buy the plane ticket and the hotel room, too. So you just tell me which a$$ to kiss to play for 200K a year. Of course these guys are making waaaaay too much money. I could make $7Mil last for a lifetime (5% interest is $350,000 annually before compounding, taxes), no problem, but that's not the point. The NFL is bringing in Billions of dollars (lots and lots of zeros) and that money's going in someone's pocket. So I ask you, who's more deserving? Lance Briggs or Virginia McCaskey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Halas_McCaskey)
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07-17-2007, 04:12 PM	#6
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Of course these guys are making waaaaay too much money. I could make $7Mil last for a lifetime (5% interest is $350,000 annually before compounding, taxes), no problem, but that's not the point. The NFL is bringing in Billions of dollars (lots and lots of zeros) and that money's going in someone's pocket. Oh I agree that the owners are making a crap load of money. I just think If player salaries would go down it would be a trickle down effect to us, the ticket buyers. I know it will never happen so the point is mute. By the way, you never have to thank me for my service.

07-17-2007, 08:33 AM	#1
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	SaintFan said it. You gotta realize that 7+ Mil is the going rate for all-pro DB/LBs. They've got a future to think about and a "lack of marketable skills" to go with it. A broken leg or worse and their career is over. We average Joe's get to work until we're 65 or older...broken leg or not. It's pretty clear that the Owners and Players need to revisit the Franchise Tag at the next round of CBA negotiations.

07-17-2007, 01:56 PM	#4
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	I kind of think that $8 Million is pretty good security. It would set me for life. Plus, it is "guaranteed" from the perspective that he gets all of it unless he gets cut. So, all we are really talking about is his future ability to make millions per year in case he get s hurt this year. A player so worried should insure himself against injury (I'm drawing a blank on the London-based insurer who would do this). It may cost him some money, but at least he'd be compensated for loss of future earnings if he suffered a career ending injury. A player under the franchise tag has plenty of options to protect himself. By the way, the relating players salaries to our own doesn't theory exactly work because this one year salary for the player could, if the player needed it to, last him a lifetime. My salary wouldn't last 2 years even if I cut back to the bone.