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Drew Brees threw for six yards? He looked completely lost against that 3-4 defensive scheme. Anybody else notice that Fred Thomas started tonite? That is not a good sign, of our secondary talent, if he is starting. Although McKenzie, was the one getting burned, on every freaking play. So far, end of the 1st quarter, I am very dissappointed in what I have seen. BTW, Jamie Martin isn't looking to good so far either.

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I Hear Ya....

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preseason or not we look absolutely horrible.

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wow, we just let ANOTHER big run go.....

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And how about David in that endzone play? Wow, he certainly looks like he was worth all the money we gave him. Guys, if this secondary doesn't get better, FAST, we are in for one long season. I haven't seen one good play out of those guys so far tonite.

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completely lost out there....

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wonder if mckenzie would be a few steps faster if he cuts that hair. geez thats gotta weigh him down some

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i made the same comment earlier.

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Maybe the Saints should insist - a clipping penalty :D

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stop crying ladies, it is just pre-season!!!

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It's preseason, they just came off a very hard week in camp, they looked tired IMO, they will improve...
Not sure why David didn't start the game, the only thing that puzzles me ..

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You also have to remember that Tomlin is a first time HC and what do first time HC's like to do in their first preseason game? WIN.

I'm sure the packages we have in are similar to what they would have had in for the black and gold scrimmage - maybe plus a few things.

This is not the time for WTF's!

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Ain't no ladies here. Shame

BTW for the stat junkies. HOF game.
Most points by a winning team 48.
Least points by a team 0 (four time).
Largest win margin 38.

This is Saints' 4th appearance
So far 1-2
1970 NOS 14 MV 13
1983 PS 27 NOS 14 :o
1996 IC 10 NOS 3

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I just don't understand what's up with the 1st stringers.

I know they're tired, but the Steelers aren't?

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The thing that puzzles me is why they look like they don't want to be there. I don't care if this is preseason you should still play with some type of enthusiasm. If you don't want to play, stay at home and let someone else play. I don't want to here about not showing what your plans are for this season because there are 16 games that are played during the year and teams will figure out your game plan anyway. That's why you practice and game plan all season long.

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What puzzles me is why they didn't alter the line up. It seems they started the entire squad (defensively) that they ended the season with. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to pick up free agents for big money in the off season (Simmons, David) and not start them with the "A" Squad to see how they fare against the opponent's starters.

Is anyone else not getting it tonite?

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Probably Payton's last chance saloon to them.
Preseason game #2 will be very different (I hope)

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All in all 3 hours of my life I will never get back. Throw in the case of beer and the Michael Irvin interview and I might be puking all night as well. I just love how the entire world is congratulating Irvin for being a f up his whole life but because he admitted to being an f up his whole life in a 20 minute speech he is such a bastion of hope for humanity.

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I don't believe he has a full grasp of the defense yet. He looked completely lost out there. Santonio Holmes made him look silly tonight. Hopefully he'll get his act together and will be ready for the regular season.

It's definately not panick mode on the secondary or anything fellas. We didn't play well last preseason and we did great during the regular season. Every year the Colts blow around this time... it means nothing. It's used to evaluate the youngsters and to see who's going to make the team.

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I have to say, the team looked really good at TC on thursday and friday and it was dissappointing to see such a lack luster performance, but it is the first of five preseason games. The only new signing that really "started" was KK. From what I could tell at TC and during the game. David and Simmons are going to have to win their spots, and I'm all for that.

A few things to remember while you wail and gnash your teeth:
1. the Steelers had an extra couple of days of practice.
2. Tomlin definitely wanted to look good out there since it was his first game as an HC.
3. Payton likes to put his players into "unwinable" situations and see how they perform. I'm not convinced that he was calling up the best plays.

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Yeah I think the Steelers had more to lose in that game. Also I think maybe just maybe if it was planned to give them what we did last year not to give anything up early for the upcoming season.

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I have to say that you all, are right! saint did look horrible But at the
same time it is pre-season. I do have to bring this up, Mooch (from nfl network) Said that the Siants off. looked very "Vanilla" which means that they did not go out there showing anybody anything. It made sence to me, Unless I'm in denial.(hehehe) Pre-season you gotta love it.

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I think the offense was vanilla on purpose, we arent going to show much right now, and what we do, I think is what the coach wants the others to see. The sloppy play by the secondary, and 1st string offense I know wasnt planned but if its plays that they havent been practicing, then sure they will probably botch more than a few. Fife, and Pittman looked good on there drive,
our DL looked good, PRE-SEASON is just that, whens the last one we actually had a winning record? (HASLETTS 2nd Year?????).
DONT throw in the towels yet gentlemen, Its a long season. I am just glad I didnt see any major injuries, THATS what scares me.
P.S.
The NFL NETWORK SUCKS!
Friggin, anouncers with their noses up M. IRVENS A**!
Just show the Darn game!:handguns:

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A few comments, not necessarily in order:

1. It's the first pre-season game
2. We looked just as bad last pre-season.
3. Two series of starters running base vanilla packages vs. the Steelers: a rookie coach taking multiple shots downfield.
4. Yeah, Fred Thomas started, but that's a courtesy to a long-time veteran. Just politics.
5. The Saints hold training camp in the most grueling environment of any NFL team. Period. Factor in that you're playing an earlier-than-usual pre-season game after basically a week of two-a-days.
6. Fife good, Martin bad. Fife looked (or as important, perhaps faked) the part of a leader out there. He showed fire and made the most of his opportunity.
7. Palko worse than Martin. This is a no-brainer: cagey NFL vet having a bad night vs. undrafted rookie who threw a pick and nearly got our 1st-rounder killed.
8. Pittman looked good in space, but fell at the first hit each time. I'd still rather keep him over Stecker for a host of reasons.
9. D-line did look good, on both run & pass
10. No injuries to key components
11. It's the first pre-season game.

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last preseason we looked horrible.... look what happened .... I really don't understand why some of you are mad about the game or worried how our defense looked ITS PRESEASON !!!

I have no worries.....

Any won see meachem dude got JACKED UP !!!!!

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After watching how Payton called offensive plays last preseason and this first game one thing seems consistent to me. He is only utilizing these games to dissect our protection/blocking schemes, the route running and seeing who stays in position and gets their assignments correct and who does not. His play calls are very simplistic. He's not doing a ton of calls where we run various looks from a single offensive line up. He's lining the guys up in a formation, running a staple play in it and then moving to a new formation and running another well used route or run block scheme.

I am certain that just like last year, these formations will suddenly have a myriad of options thrown in them and wrinkles that are intended to throw defenses off their plans.

I really don't think he entered this game with a goal being to win or to strut his stuff as an offensive mind. He wanted to see some youngsters and how they've grasped what he's taught them so far in camp. To see if their repetition in camp translates to a real game scenario.

Take nothing negative from the fact that we didn't light it up. I doubt he wanted to, and if we did it would have been because the Steelers blew their own assignments. I think Tomlin had the Steelers fired up for his first real action and they wanted to win one for their rookie coach and use it as something to build momentum off of after a poor outing last year.

The only things I saw that mattered were:

Colston had some sharp routes even if the defense anticipated them. Bush looks equally or more elusive. Smith and Grant look solid on the ends. Hollis needs to trim it up...alot. Kaeshviharn can tackle better than anyone else in the secondary. David looks lost as a m2m corner. Lance Moore looks like he really wants this job as does Pierre Thomas.

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I do agree with this assessment, and about Payton just throwing out some standard plays and formations for his players to grasp while the game doesn't mean anything - instead of opening night against Indianapolis. Nobody wants to look lost THEN.

I agree that Colston still looked good, Bush looked good (even with only 2 carries). I can tell he's been working on trying to settle for those few tough inside yards if nothing is there, rather than dance for a loss of yards and a wasted down.

I agree that Kaesviharn can tackle wonderfully, and I'm sure we weren't seeing everything from him. We have to keep in mind he's coming into a NEW team with new man-to-man schemes and possibly weaker corners. By week 1 of the regular season he should be sharp and playing smart.

Our defensive ends. They're the bright spot. I hope our offense gives them more time to rest on the sidelines in the coming games, because you have to factor in that they're wearing down the more they're out there. And the more time they spend on the field, the more risk of injuries.

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There's been a lot of misery on these threads since the thumping last night. I'm in the corner that it's only a pre-season game -- a very early preseason game at that. If any of you have ever gone through two-a-days, imagine a week's worth in the Mississippi August heat and then playing a game that weekend. That might be the reason for the sluggish play -- lack of legs.

As long as we come out with no injuries (Meachem's headache and I read somewhere that Fain strained his calf), we're doing o.k.

Still, lack of legs does not explain why Jason David looked absolutely lost at corner. I'll give the Predator the benefit of the doubt on his biting on the receiver's "fancy foot action" - he'll come around. And hey, did anyone see Fred Thomas come up and make an open field stick on the RB? Never saw Deion do that!

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For the love of god it was 1 pre season game. No free agent will start at any position till they understand that position. Relaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Only one question: Were there any injuries?

Nope? Then mission accomplished.

As I said last week, this was a nationally televised intersquad practice. Note that Coach Payton didn't even bring the guys in early for training camp for this game.

It meant nothing. I was happy just to see them play some downs and no one get hurt.

Now if this were the 5th preseason game with the starters going 2.5 quarters, then maybe I'd have some concerns.

SFIAH

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Agree. This was nothing to worry about. The only thing that ticked me off was when McKenzie got burned and they blamed K.K., geez, he ran across the field and tackled the guy.

Good things I saw: Defense trying to strip the ball.

I am not worried.

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It's just preseason, but Tyler Palko should be cut for the way he hung Meachem out to dry, twice. Come on man, don't be mad cause you are an undrafted FA trying to make the team and Meach is a stud rookie first rounder who will 100% make the team and be around for a few years. That kind of jealousy has no place on a football field. ;)

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Where the heck did that come from?? Two hungry rookies trying to make the same team in different positions and you think one wants the other hurt??

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I think that is what is called sarcasm....

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I hope that doesn't put a premature fear into Meachem, cause he looks big and has good hands. Tyler should never have hamstrung him like that in the middle of the field. But Tyler's BEYOND a rookie, he's more like a nookie right now, so I can't say that he was aware of the defenders swarming around Meachem like they were.

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what's that mean? :-D myyyyy bad.

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They looked tired to me, right from the beginning. So no worries. They'll look much much better in the season opener.