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N.C. Saintfan 08-10-2007 08:34 PM

Not sure about you guys
 
but I really liked what I saw. Given the players we were missing atleast so far for the first half I was pleased. No Injuries! no sacks unless I was AFK.. Strief impressed, D Line was awesome. Nice work from Linebackers. Maybe a few but not many mistakes from Secondary. Thoughts?

Savant 08-10-2007 09:57 PM

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Craft and F. Thomas need to go. I like Thomas but it's just time for him. I really like that Palko kid. Made a couple of mistakes. But I saw some good decision/playmaking ability from him tonight.

JOESAM2002 08-10-2007 10:11 PM

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I too was impressed with Palko. I'm not sure that after tonight, I wouldn't rather see him #2 rather than Martin. I like Martin but his age scares me. I still want to see more of this Pierre Thomas kid, for some reason I really like him and have the feeling that if we let him get away he will come back to bite us. I want to see him make this team. Lance Moore was all over the place making plays. He's having a great camp. I was getting down on our 1st rounder, but his touchdown catch was a pro catch. I hope he gets better and over his jitters.

Our defense was much better wwith Lake and Clancy. They will give old big boy some trouble getting back in the starters. As far as backup players, Troy Evans (linebacker) is impressive,by far the best of the free agent players yet. I thought Mitchell did pretty well on special teams.

We lost but they showed heart and passion to play.

Overall, i'm satisfied with the game,at least much more than the HOF game.

WillMacKenzie 08-10-2007 10:40 PM

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<---- not pleased with defense. Exception would be MAYBE the 1st string line.

Tyler Palko gets the thumbs up from me over Martin.

1. He can actually *move*.

2. He's got a good arm, fairly accurate even on the run.

And again, the defense merely looks like 11 other Bills players on the field.

Turbo Saint 08-11-2007 01:55 AM

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yea i'm with ya on jason craft...i've never liked him...he's always "behind the guy" running to catch up...see ya craft.

maximkat 08-11-2007 07:44 AM

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i've seen a couple of post regarding how accurate Palko is, but he threw two int's, can someone explain this to a guy who had to work during the game? Thanks!

GilFenerty 08-11-2007 08:46 AM

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One of Palkeauxs picks was in the end zone, which is never good...but the other one was worse. The throw might have made a decent pooch punt. I thought his best asset was his escapability, which he needs because he kind of has a slow, awkward delivery (lefty, and sidearm). This was especially obvious on playaction passes when he had to turn his whole body around. He seems to throw off his back foot a lot.
He had some nice runs, especially a bootleg (fourth down?) later in the game that faked everybody out. There was some potential there, and he was fun to watch (in an exhibition.)
But this team is in big trouble if he is taking snaps in a meaningful game this season. In my opinion, the backup QB situation looms as the biggest question mark right now. How can we not have addressed this?
Other game thoughts:

-- Whats deal with Usama Young? Did he play? I dont recall seeing him in the game.

-- Pittman is starting to grow on me, and seeing Meachem make a play made me feel a lot better about that situation.

The cb, #30, Jones, should be the first player cut next week. He missed two tackles on the Bills TD drive that cost us the game.

mighty12 08-11-2007 09:06 AM

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I am glad to see this because I was about to post for everyones opnions on Palko. I love the kid. He is quick, steady headed, and he IS accurate. His downfalls are what seems to be a lack of arm strength, he floats the ball too often and he is an undrafted rookie. I like the runs he made last night. He was blazing past the DL and LBs, and he is VERY elusive.

With that said WHAT ABOUT REGGIE! He was simply amazing. He hit the holes with speed. He had an amazing catch that he made look simple. Devery was another person who impressed me. HE CAN CATCH! Brees bounced back after a 1-6 game on Sunday, He looked sharp. I like Eric Johnson at TE. Deuce is starting to get a chip on his shoulder with all the Reggie talk. No one seems to want to talk about our favorite back in the mass media. Meachum made a spectacular catch, BUT he has yet to impress ME! and I was the biggest Meachum fan on here. I like Copper and Moore, I am worried about Mare kicking field goals. I like the pressure the defense put on the QB, but we need to get to him. Finally, WE NEED TUNROVERS. I haven't seen anything that shows we are improved as a turnover team. The DBs can't catch, the LBs aren't getting fumbles. This is the key duiring the regular season. WE NEED TURNOVERS! Other than that it was a good game. Showed the offense is ready to make another great season.

hagan714 08-11-2007 09:42 AM

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No one mentioned the special teams play? that is an area that needs a ton of work. I am expecting improvement here but it has not happened. Cover team must be coached by the secondary coach. The return unit is not clicking. Better ML phone number handy.

ScottF 08-11-2007 10:14 AM

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It was discouraging that after 4 drives it was 3-0 instead of 21-0 or 17-0.
On the plus side, Henderson & Brees looked great, Eric Johnson very good, and Reggie was Reggie. Meachem's catch was simply beautiful.

Special teams are still a concern on both sides of the ball. Moore tried to do too much and ended up with nothing. Lots of penalties, too.

Heard this before? DB's were weakest unit on the field, led by David. I hope he adjusts soon.

Who makes the team? Evans looked good, Moore helped himself, and Pittman's perfrormance will send Stecker packing. Not sold on Goodwin as a backup center- can Alleman snap?

ScottyRo 08-11-2007 10:15 AM

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ST's issues? Yeah, Lance Moore on punt returns. He caught the ball on our 5 and nearly got tackled in the end zone trying to get away. That is a million degrees south of a bad decision and I have no faith in him now to make the right decisions on punt returns. Add to that, that he didn't show anything special on the returns he has made...If he's not making it as a WR, I say cut him. I may be wrong on who it was, but I think it was Moore.

Dan the Man 08-11-2007 11:50 AM

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I was very pleased with what I saw last night. Devry looks much better. Still has all the speed but actually held on to the ball. Didn't see much of Colston but I'm not really worried about him. I thought Lance Moore was excellent. I thought he was great during last preseason too and I don't know why we never saw him during the regular season. Unlike most receivers he fights for the ball, he doesn't just wait for it to fall into his hands. And he usually wins the fight for the ball as well. I like Palko alot. Yeah, he had 2 bad interceptions, but he is a rookie and he made alot of good plays. You gotta love a Quarterback who will limp over to the huddle. I thought Pittman had a pretty good game and I think I like Pierre Thomas but I would like to see some more of him.

As for the defense: I don't see a big problem with Jason Craft. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention to some things you guys saw. But he was one of the few DB's who touched the ball last night. He was also one of the few DB's who touched the ball last year. He can also tackle, unlike most of the other DB's. I like Evans, he made alot of plays. Anybody know why we haven't seen Usama Young yet? I heard he was doing pretty good in camp, but I haven't seen him. Anyways, I thought the defense did alright, it's not gonna be a #1 defense, but I think it'll do the trick.

Euphoria 08-11-2007 12:03 PM

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See fella's preseaon doesn't mean anything but its good to see the team play well and play well consistantly. I have been saying Martin needs to be cut and Fife and Palko make it. They have much more zip on the ball than Martin does. The INT in the Red Zone was also WR' fault as well he didn't fight for the ball and was letting up watching the INT take place.

Cassady37 08-11-2007 12:16 PM

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I liked what I saw for the most part. Yes, Palko through a couple of picks, but in his defense the first pick was made because of the receiver not running through his route. He looked like more than a rookie QB, has good wheels and can make things happen. Someone needs to teach him to quit throwing off his back foot but he showed he has some throwing power. I agree about Craft, he was around the ball and making hits more than any DB out there. Devery, you guys have always liked him but I still think he's inconsistent. He missed a pass right in his hands near the goal line and consequently took a hit. Jason David is the worst man coverage guy out there. Lance Moore is definitely a keeper and contrary to what others saw, he was nailed at the goal line because of a blatant missed block and he had NO WHERE to go. Other areas were status quo, D-Line looked pretty good, O-Line will look better when starters return. We were swarming better at DB position but we suck at man coverage.

LordOfEntropy 08-11-2007 03:56 PM

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Where was Usama Young? Has he even been in one play this preseason?

LongTimeFan 08-11-2007 04:58 PM

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A lot of fans were down on the Saints last week after losing the HOF game, as some said that was their first game and would improve, that was the case and I see them continuing to improve every week...

Brees was right on target, doesn't get any better than that in week 2 of preseason.
Bush will BLOW up this year IMO, he's hitting the holes without much hesitation which will make it that much harder for a defense to stop him for short yardage.
Henderson looked very impressive last night, IMO this season will be his best since turning pro.
Copper seems to be protecting the ball better and runs his routes much better, he had two decent games this preseason, his problem last year was holding on to the ball and catching the ball, hopefully he's over all of that.
The defense looked like they are starting to gel together, we finally got to see David, Harper and MM on the field together, we should be much better against the pass this year.
I love our chances in succeeding this year, I can't wait for week one to start.

Keep the great post coming:bng:, we should really have a good time this season here at the BlackandGold..


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