meachem
 

i dont want to be negative but i see absoutlely nothing out of meachem ..can yall say bust?!?!?

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I mean I could say bust, but there would be so many things wrong with that label at this point in time. First of all, we're still in the preseason. These aren't real games and he's not being thrown the ball by Drew Brees, and that makes a huge difference (just ask all of those guys who went from having to catch AB's balls to catching Brees' balls). Secondly, if you have seen absolutely nothing out of Meachem, it's probably because you haven't been watching because he made a spectacular catch in the back of the end zone against Buffalo. Thirdly, you have to remember that the guy is just a rookie, one who is also coming off of knee surgery which forced him to miss some time in camp. You can't judge him by the results of somebody like, say Marques Colston, because finding a rookie wide receiver who can do that is RARE. It is widely known that one of the most difficult positions for a rookie to come in and make an impact at is wide receiver. So I would say that your label of "bust" is a little premature considering 1) we're still in preseason, 2) he has shown some signs of promise, 3) he's a rookie coming off knee surgery, and 4) he is trying to come into the hardest position for rookies to succeed at in the NFL.

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Just way to early to say he's a "bust"
IMO he'll be OK once he gains more experience.
He is a rookie and we all know what a rookie WR goes through in most cases in the NFL.(speed of the game, routes etc)
Colston was a wonderful exception.

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Bust is a lil to strong of a label. Let's just see how he develop during the season first. Besides, like I said before, he's not a primary weapon or a go to guy. He's going to have time to develop, so let's just hope he does, because it will make our team that much better.

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i don feel like u can label a wr a bust after the first season, much less just after 3 pre-season games!

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I wont, I can not, and shall not utter those words.
Why u ask:
1st round money. That buys him the standard 3 year arrival time in the NFL. Just be glad the wait is with the 27th pick money and nothing higher.

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it is still early. the kid is a rookie and mssed time because of the injury. i think devery will have a pretty good year and i hope to see some stuff out of meach during the year. some signs of life, but he will still be a rookie. add in colston and that will eventually be a nice 3 at wide out.

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there is no reason to label him a bust... hes played 3 games.. 3... you cant expect any player to come into the league and be a probowler overnight... its just to rare of an occurance... come back to me in 2 or 3 years and then ill let you know if he is a bust or not...

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too early for bust talk, look devery finally had a good season last year, and is finally coming into his own in the league. He was expected to be a big contributor early on. It just takes time. I'd rather the team let him take some time to develop and mature rather than just throwing him to the wolves and ending up like charles rogers.

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It's too early to say bust, but I will say this...

I didn't like that pick to begin with, and he hasn't done anything to this point that has made me change my opinion. But, I really really want him to turn into something...I'm just not confident.

But I love the Lance Moore kat...maybe we should've paid him the 27th pick money.

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I think some of us need to realize that the 2006 draft was special and we got extremely lucky that year. What that rookie class did for us was amazing and we can't expect finds like that every year. Rookies take time to develop and Meachem is no different. Give the guy some time before you label him as a bust, first rounder or not, it takes time and because of his injury and missed practices he's a little behind.

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Nothing??? bust??? He got a great TD pass... show flashes of brillance. WR takes on average 3-4 years to develop, its one of the hardes positions to master. Far from a bust just yet.

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By your definition Henderson is also a bust,
as was Deuce- 91 yards his rookie year

Ryan Leaf was a bust, Sullivan a bust, but they were given 2-3 years to prove it.

What do we need from Meachem this year? Pretty much nothing. Great teams draft players that help the team down the road.

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Honestly, how much of a bust can a #27 pick be? You can't say that comming out of college, Meachem was not 1st-round material.

...and what they said about it being preseason and all that.

I think this draft-class is a good one. I think Meach can develop into a good #2 or #3 reciver in the NFL, Young will be a starting CB sooner than later, Allman has starter's talent. Palko could even develope.

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If you go back to Devery's rookie year, I don't think he was in camp by week #2 (not counting the HOF week because the Saints didn't start camp early), or, if his hold-out was over by then, he certainly was not dressed out. Meacham already has a TD catch.

If you like Devery being on the roster, I predict that you'll like this guy, too - he's still adjusting to the NFL and needs time to develop.

Bust? The Saints have a long history of BUSTS (reference: Shawn Knight, Jonathan Sullivan, Alvin Toles, Russell Erxleben, Vaughn Dunbar) and it's way too early to put the "BUST" label on him.

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Meachem is going to be good, he is still a rookie. He is learning the game. He does not have to be the starter this year, they have Henderson, Copper, Moore, and Patten on the team, and Meachem will start next year.

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Way to early to label the kid. I know it's hard but for once we don't need our pick to start yesterday. We can bring him along slowly and give him time to adjust. When we are able to let him loose on the league, man it's going to get UGLY!:cool:

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Good advice. Also consider the fact that Meachem wasn't a need pick. While the media keeps talking about the guy being Joe Horn's replacement, the fact of the matter is that short of being Calvin Johnson, he would have been at best the #3 receiver on this team. Henderson is finally coming into his own and will be the #2 receiver on this team. Like it or not, Reggie Bush is in fact the #3 receiver on this team. Everyone else including Patton, Moore, Copper, and Meachem, will be fighting for PT at the receiver position.

A good problem to have. Give the kid a year to develop his talent and then we'll figure out if he's in fact talented enough to displace any of the Saints' quality starting receivers.

SFIAH

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I wouldn't say bust at this point, but he has certainly disappointed. I would expect a 1st round WR to come in and be competitive for a 3rd or even a 4th spot. Right now it looks like he'll be 6th and that's only because his draft position earned him a spot on the team.

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How many people people thought that Henderson was a bust before last year? Stallworth? Granted neither has shown greatness, but both are showing to be well above average. Stallworth's hammy and questionable hands are keeping him from being great. Meachem will get his head screwed on straight by payton and company. He has more physical gifts(size,speed,quickness) than any of our other WR's and has pretty good hands too from what I have seen. He had knee surgery and his problems so far that I have seen have been in cutting and route running. This are the most over looked talents for a WR to posses in the NFL, and having had the knee problem he will not be able to learn as fast with a little hesitation to really cut on that knee. Once payton gets that out of him and his talents traslated into drive to become very good or great Meachem will be fine.

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I think Henderson is a good way to think about the Meachem "problem." It is very standard for WRs in particular to have a long development period (usually in the 3 to 4 year range) by conventional wisdom anyway. Obviously, there are some gifted players (or ones on teams where the starters... ahem... suck) that get rolling early; however, for the most WRs don't come into their own for several years - pretty much the opposite of RBs.

That said, drafting a player with a history of injury problems does lead one to start thinking "bust", I'd have to say. I was pleased to see that Meachem got himself ready to play in pre-season, since there was a time it wasn't clear when he'd be able to get started. He's got some tools, so let's see what he can do before we write him off.

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I thought the Saints were still highly ranked in drops last year. Each QB has his strengths. AB was a very accurate laser and bomb QB,while Brees is has better touch and excels in screens,etc. Hitting WRs in stride. Intermediate passes were his bread & butter while playing Marty ball. He starting looking deeper as his shoulder healed, to utilize the speed of our WRs more.

Anyway, I also don't call players a bust until their third season. I've seen some label Donte a bust, but I don't agree. He had his role,and 1st round picks aren't guaranteed to prosper. I guess people just expect immediate returns, since we were spoiled with some picks. Matrix didn't really stand out to me until the latter half of the season.

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Looks like he's more of a Devery Henderson type receiver. He'll come along over the next couple of seasons. However, Lance Moore is a beast. He reminds me of Pathon. I can see Moore and Colston as the top 2 WR's for us with Devery and Copper flying all over the place. We have found another gem this year as well :D

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Don't yall count Patten out. He's a fine Keyshawn type possession WR. Well, if he can stay healthy.