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JOESAM2002 08-25-2007 04:59 PM

Just for fun.....
 
Ok, say you're the head coach of the Saints. You're down to final cuts. You have all three Thomas's still on the roster, Hollis, Fred and Pierre. You can only keep one. Who would it be and why?

Bobaganoosh 08-25-2007 06:19 PM

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Hollis...you have to have depth and size at DT. While he is not in the best of shape, he does provide the most value to the team.

WhoDat205 08-25-2007 06:39 PM

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That's a really tough question...

Fred's out because of the David signing and the fact that there are two promising young rookies out there at CB.

Hollis is over weight now, but he's a proven commodity at DT and as long as he lays off the inhalers is a big part of the starting D.

Pierre has shown a lot of promise, but there's still 26 and 25 and only so many balls to go around.

I'm keeping HT.

saintsfan1203 08-25-2007 06:55 PM

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Thats an easy one. HOLLIS!!!!

Fred Thomas: I try to give him so leeway each week, but if you noticed he is still getting burnt; not deep but on curls and flys. Bye Bye

Pierre: Only because you said choose one. Because he is playing great and I would keep him instead of stecker.

HOLLIS is a Beast! O. K. he is a lil overweight now but he is our best run stuffer in my eyes. Once he's in shape watch out o-lines.

sac-a-lait 08-25-2007 07:33 PM

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I think Hollis Thomas---We have a potenet offense and good runningbacks already, but I sure like Pierre Thomas.

JOESAM2002 08-25-2007 08:38 PM

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Did you guy's watch Hollis against KC? He couldn't even stand up. I'm fat, but he is far to fat. I'm concerned he'll have a heart attack as big as he is. I like him but he's just way to fat.

Bobaganoosh 08-25-2007 09:32 PM

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I understand that he is fat, but even still, he has a role on this team. Pierre Thomas has been a big surprise and i am happy for him, but realistically he has no role with us. Fred Thomas, who i dont dislike as much as most of you, doesnt really have role either other than a step too slow, overpaid dime back. That is why the answer was easy to me.

JOESAM2002 08-25-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh (Post 136873)
I understand that he is fat, but even still, he has a role on this team. Pierre Thomas has been a big surprise and i am happy for him, but realistically he has no role with us. Fred Thomas, who i dont dislike as much as most of you, doesnt really have role either other than a step too slow, overpaid dime back. That is why the answer was easy to me.


Don't get me wrong, I like Hollis too but if you're to fat to perform your job, you need to do something about it. It just looks to me like he could have done more. Right now he's not helping anyone. I guess we'll have to wait till halfway through the season for him to earn his money,when maybe he'll be slim enough to do his job. I guess you can tell,i'm more that just a little disappointed in him. Bad thing is I really do like him. He can be very good for this team. Whether he will or not remains to be seen. I sure hope he does.

Saintsfan4ever 08-25-2007 11:11 PM

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Hollis, that was easy. The man is big no doubt. You`d think after 2-a-days in Jackson at 110 degrees he`d be at or below his target weight.

Brann 08-26-2007 12:19 AM

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Hollis. He's the only nose tackle on the team aside from Clancy. Leisle has shown nothing at the NT position and isn't fast enough to play the under.

LongTimeFan 08-26-2007 08:57 AM

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Thomas..
After last season I totally gave up on him, he get's burned more often than not..

ScottF 08-26-2007 09:31 AM

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I say Pierre- Moore has had a great camp, but he scares me at PR. Pierre can return kicks and has made a few ST tackles.

As for Hollis, we have been hearing this 'ideal weight' nonsense for four weeks now. How overweight was he at the start of camp 30 days ago? He should have lost 15-20 pounds by now.

We have a game in 11 days- are we to expect he will be ready? He ran his mouth early about a big contract, he got the deal he wanted, and then he spent his summer vacation at Cracker Barrel.

JOESAM2002 08-26-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeFan (Post 136889)
Thomas..
After last season I totally gave up on him, he get's burned more often than not..

So, are you keeping Fred or who?

JOESAM2002 08-26-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 136892)
I say Pierre- Moore has had a great camp, but he scares me at PR. Pierre can return kicks and has made a few ST tackles.

As for Hollis, we have been hearing this 'ideal weight' nonsense for four weeks now. How overweight was he at the start of camp 30 days ago? He should have lost 15-20 pounds by now.

We have a game in 11 days- are we to expect he will be ready? He ran his mouth early about a big contract, he got the deal he wanted, and then he spent his summer vacation at Cracker Barrel.

15 or 20 pounds? Did you see him the other night? He has at least 50 to go.

ScottF 08-26-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 (Post 136900)
15 or 20 pounds? Did you see him the other night? He has at least 50 to go.

that's my point--

he shows up not just a little overweight, but 30, 40, 50 pounds overweight?
then he goes through 2 a days and conditioning and he is still not close. How is that even possible?

if we are going to keep a grossly overweight Thomas this year, let's call Walter back. He's cheaper and more interesting

cadilacin 08-26-2007 08:34 PM

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Pierre is the better player of the 3. Hollis is too fat. Fred is toast. But if I had to keep one...i'm sad to say that I'd probably keep Fat Hollis. Joe, I agree with everything you said about the guy, but I still don't trust our ability to stop the run. At least hollis can still big that big body in the middle who can plug up holes in the middle. He is not a bad player...in fact he is still a good player IMO. Until we get a middle linebacker who can stuff the run...I would rather have the big guy pluggin the middle.

But I love the way Pierre plays.

gummbo 08-26-2007 08:44 PM

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:phat:I say keep P.T. and let the fat boy go get some gumbo.He can dip some toast in it.

LongTimeFan 08-26-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 (Post 136899)
So, are you keeping Fred or who?

IMO Fred has to be gone...

JOESAM2002 08-26-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeFan (Post 136925)
IMO Fred has to be gone...


OK,I'm laughing now. We're narrowing them down now. So who you gonna keep?????????? LOL Good thing you're a moderator, I wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about. LOL. Of course that could be my brain lapses too.;)

MatthewT 08-26-2007 11:15 PM

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Ole Thomas Hollis was a great player for the Saints last year, except for the last four games during regular season. But if the dude cannot stay away from Popeyes and KFC, which is hard to do, then I say he needs to go. The dude signed a big contract in the offseason and now looks to have lost his starting job. There is no way the Saints can pay him the big money as a second string player. On the other hand, I say give him some more time. This year is all about winning a Superbowl. At some point his fat ass will bail us out of some situation. Maybe his fat ass will stuff Tom Brady for a key sack in the Superbowl?

saintsrule 08-26-2007 11:49 PM

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I would keep Hollis. He is a starting DT in the league. The RB, Thomas is a #3 or 4 RB, at best. And although I do believe the CB, Thomas can still start in the league, he will probably be the #3 or 4 CB on this team.

Budsdrinker 08-27-2007 08:07 AM

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Yeah, as much as I would like to keep Pierre, if it came down to choosing between Pierre and Hollis I would have to keep Fat Man Hollis just because even if he falls down it makes it difficult for a RB to get through the hole.

papz 08-27-2007 08:31 AM

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Hollis and Fred Thomas have more value than Pierre by far. There's no way I'd cut a starting DT or nickle/dime corner, who can start I might add, for a would be 4th running back on our depth chart.

fhotard 08-27-2007 03:10 PM

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Like most others, I'd have to keep the fat boy...

LongTimeFan 08-27-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 (Post 136926)
OK,I'm laughing now. We're narrowing them down now. So who you gonna keep?????????? LOL Good thing you're a moderator, I wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about. LOL. Of course that could be my brain lapses too.;)


Oh I get it now Joe!!!!!

I'd like to keep Hollis, hopefully he can lose some weight and help out on stopping the run..

Did I get it right this time Joe?:)

I'm working way to much these days..

Keep a close eye on my Joe, I'm depending on you bro!!!!

JOESAM2002 08-27-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeFan (Post 136995)
Oh I get it now Joe!!!!!

I'd like to keep Hollis, hopefully he can lose some weight and help out on stopping the run..

Did I get it right this time Joe?:)

I'm working way to much these days..

Keep a close eye on my Joe, I'm depending on you bro!!!!

No prob, BOB. It happens to me all the time. I'm just glad to not be lying in a hole with someone kicking dirt on me.:D

LongTimeFan 08-27-2007 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 (Post 136998)
No prob, BOB. It happens to me all the time. I'm just glad to not be lying in a hole with someone kicking dirt on me.:D

Uh...I'm LTF, not Bob..
I guess I'll have to look out for you too Joe.:)

m_c_hamster 08-27-2007 10:06 PM

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I keep Hollis and the reason is simple................experience.


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