Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals

blacksaint · 09-14-2007, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Everyone,

I have written e-mails to about 50 different news agencies, the NFL and all teams and here is my protest. I will not watch any other NFL games with the exception of games involving my home team. I will only watch NCAA football until Roger suspends Bill Belichick for at least 1 year.

Send this to everyone you know and join the protest.

Now that's what I'm talking about. Somebody who's pissed off as I am.

LongTimeFan · 09-14-2007, 08:12 PM

I wonder if another coach besides Belichick would have done the same thing if they would have gotten suspended?, such as a young coach as Sean Payton.
Being he's won 3 SB's and that the Pats are a high ranked team could be the reason they didn't suspend him, I was shocked to see he wasn't.
What's up with that?

papz · 09-14-2007, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Hence the word: CHEATERS! If I thought just Belichick was a cheater I would have said: CHEATER and I only called out a couple of names because I didn't feel like typing:

52 Alexander, Eric LB 6-2 240 2/8/82 3 LSU
23 Andrews, Willie CB 5-10 190 11/2/83 2 Baylor
32 Baker, Rashad S 5-10 198 2/22/82 4 Tennessee
88 Brady, Kyle TE 6-6 280 1/14/72 13 Penn State
12 Brady, Tom QB 6-4 225 8/3/77 8 Michigan
65 Britt, Wesley T 6-8 320 11/21/81 2 Alabama
98 Brown, Chad LB 6-2 245 7/12/70 15 Colorado
95 Brown, Kareem DT 6-4 295 1/30/84 R Miami (FL)
54 Bruschi, Tedy LB 6-1 247 6/9/73 12 Arizona
16 Cassel, Matt QB 6-4 230 5/17/82 3 USC
59 Colvin, Rosevelt LB 6-3 250 9/5/77 9 Purdue
44 Evans, Heath RB 6-0 250 12/30/78 7 Auburn
33 Faulk, Kevin RB 5-8 202 6/5/76 9 LSU
10 Gaffney, Jabar WR 6-1 200 12/1/80 6 Florida
21 Gay, Randall CB 5-11 190 5/5/82 4 LSU
3 Gostkowski, Stephen K 6-1 210 1/28/84 2 Memphis
97 Green, Jarvis DE 6-3 285 1/12/79 6 LSU
7 Gutierrez, Matt QB 6-4 230 6/9/84 R Idaho State
6 Hanson, Chris P 6-2 202 10/25/76 7 Marshall
27 Hobbs, Ellis CB 5-9 195 5/16/83 3 Iowa State
71 Hochstein, Russ G 6-4 305 10/7/77 6 Nebraska
53 Izzo, Larry LB 5-10 228 9/26/74 12 Rice
77 Kaczur, Nick T 6-4 315 7/28/79 3 Toledo
67 Koppen, Dan C 6-2 296 9/12/79 5 Boston College
72 Light, Matt T 6-4 305 6/23/78 7 Purdue
70 Mankins, Logan G 6-4 310 3/10/82 3 Fresno State
39 Maroney, Laurence RB 5-11 220 2/5/85 2 Minnesota
46 Mays, Corey LB 6-1 245 11/27/83 2 Notre Dame
31 Meriweather, Brandon S 5-11 200 1/14/84 R Miami (FL)
24 Mitchell, Mel S 6-1 225 2/10/79 6 Western Kentucky
34 Morris, Sammy RB 6-0 220 3/23/77 8 Texas Tech
81 Moss, Randy WR 6-4 210 2/13/77 10 Marshall
61 Neal, Stephen G 6-4 305 10/9/76 6 Cal State Bakersfield
68 O'Callaghan, Ryan T 6-7 330 7/19/83 2 California
66 Paxton, Lonie C 6-2 260 3/13/78 8 Sacramento State
22 Samuel, Asante CB 5-10 185 1/6/81 5 UCF
36 Sanders, James S 5-10 210 11/11/83 3 Fresno State
55 Seau, Junior LB 6-3 250 1/19/69 18 USC
90 Smith, Le Kevin DT 6-1 308 7/21/82 2 Nebraska
18 Stallworth, Donte' WR 6-0 200 11/10/80 6 Tennessee
96 Thomas, Adalius LB 6-2 270 8/18/77 8 Southern Miss
86 Thomas, David TE 6-3 248 7/5/83 2 Texas
92 Thomas, Santonio DT 6-4 305 7/2/81 1 Miami (FL)
50 Vrabel, Mike LB 6-4 261 8/14/75 11 Ohio State
94 Warren, Ty DT 6-5 300 2/6/81 5 Texas A&M
15 Washington, Kelley WR 6-3 215 8/21/79 5 Tennessee
84 Watson, Benjamin TE 6-3 255 12/18/80 4 Georgia
83 Welker, Wes WR 5-9 185 5/1/81 4 Texas Tech
75 Wilfork, Vince DT 6-2 325 11/4/81 4 Miami (FL)
26 Wilson, Eugene S 5-10 195 8/17/80 5 Illinois
58 Woods, Pierre LB 6-5 250 1/6/82 2 Michigan
99 Wright, Mike DT 6-4 295 3/1/82 3 Cincinnati
74 Yates, Billy G 6-2 305 4/15/80 4 Texas A&M

Injured Reserve
No. Player Pos Ht Wt DOB Exp College
Hairston, Justise RB 6-1 210 6/27/83 R Central Connecticut State
49 Lua, Oscar LB 6-0 238 5/9/84 R USC
35 Richardson, Mike CB 5-11 190 2/18/84 R Notre Dame
30 Scott, Chad CB 6-1 205 9/6/74 11 Maryland

and these guys are cheaters too and anyone who has ever played or coached for Belichick in New England is a CHEATER.

Yes all of them are CHEATERS, I was just trying to save some time and site space.

Good... at least your consistent.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CheramieIII
Everyone,

I have written e-mails to about 50 different news agencies, the NFL and all teams and here is my protest. I will not watch any other NFL games with the exception of games involving my home team. I will only watch NCAA football until Roger suspends Bill Belichick for at least 1 year.

Send this to everyone you know and join the protest.

Now that's what I'm talking about. Somebody who's pissed off as I am.

Sorry but I myself don't think it's that big of a deal. Not saying I condone cheating, but I feel as if the punishment fits the crime already. I don't see a reason to totally boycott watching NFL football... more importantly, Saints football. In all seriousness, I don't think it played that big of a role of the Pats winning all those rings. But I guess that's something we'll never know for sure...

phatoosdey · 09-14-2007, 10:19 PM

i'm with you papz...i feel the punishment is sufficient except in one regard...anytime you are caught cheating in a game you forfeit the game

if all 53 on the roster knew it would have been out way sooner....i triple dog dare you to cut me mr. bill...i'll sing like a canary

Bise · 09-14-2007, 11:11 PM

I swear, Randy Moss just seems to bring out the worst in people !!!!

blacksaint · 09-15-2007, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by Bise

I swear, Randy Moss just seems to bring out the worst in people !!!!

I bet you even Randy's wondering what the hell he's gotten himself into.

CheramieIII · 09-15-2007, 09:42 AM

Papz, your last statement is most fitting. We'll never really know the impact any of the cheating had and the fact that Belicheat doesn't want to address it now might just be because it's been ongoing, which raises even more issues?

Belicheat's arogance at the press conference like the whole issue meant nothing raises even more concern.

This is my opinion:

Belicheat never won anything until he started cheating as the head coach of the Patriots.

Brady a second string QB at Michigan won't be as good in the future without the direction of the offensive coordinator who can't cheat anymore.

The New England Patriots are nothing more than OJ or Vick to me now. They won those Superbowls by cheating, plain and simple.

papz · 09-15-2007, 11:23 AM

This is my opinion:

Belicheat never won anything until he started cheating as the head coach of the Patriots.

Brady a second string QB at Michigan won't be as good in the future without the direction of the offensive coordinator who can't cheat anymore.

The New England Patriots are nothing more than OJ or Vick to me now. They won those Superbowls by cheating, plain and simple.

Well... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how the season plays out. I still believe the Pats are one of the best AFC teams and is one of the favorites to make it to the Superbowl. I'm sure even a division title should dis spell how little significance this is. I'm sure we'll see Tom Brady in the ProBowl again too.

However Cher, I do understand your point of view on this.

ssmitty · 09-15-2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Well... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how the season plays out. I still believe the Pats are one of the best AFC teams and is one of the favorites to make it to the Superbowl. I'm sure even a division title should dis spell how little significance this is. I'm sure we'll see Tom Brady in the ProBowl again too.

However Cher, I do understand your point of view on this.

hey papz,
here is an article by vic carruci on his take of belichick........
Pats' 'videogate' doesn't diminish Super success

here was a letter i sent to his station on how i felt about it....

in response to your take on why the patriots 3 super bowl wins should stand....

does not one, I repeat one game sometimes makes the difference between making the playoffs or not?
I doubt you could argue this..........
and, with this being the case, if just that one win with the help of cheating got the patriots there, should they not forfeit a super bowl title because of this?
where are your morals?
you can make the case that they have good players and coaches till you're blue in the face but it does not justify cheating.
and that's just what they did............
if it's one thing the American people do not tolerate, it is cheating, especially in sports........
you'd do good to rethink your position on this...........
Joe in Texas

ssmitty · 09-15-2007, 01:40 PM

is belichick gone after this season?

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09-14-2007, 07:51 PM	#21
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Re: Join the protest against the CHEATERS! Originally Posted by CheramieIII Everyone, I have written e-mails to about 50 different news agencies, the NFL and all teams and here is my protest. I will not watch any other NFL games with the exception of games involving my home team. I will only watch NCAA football until Roger suspends Bill Belichick for at least 1 year. Send this to everyone you know and join the protest. Now that's what I'm talking about. Somebody who's pissed off as I am.

09-14-2007, 08:12 PM	#22
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Join the protest against the CHEATERS! I wonder if another coach besides Belichick would have done the same thing if they would have gotten suspended?, such as a young coach as Sean Payton. Being he's won 3 SB's and that the Pats are a high ranked team could be the reason they didn't suspend him, I was shocked to see he wasn't. What's up with that?

09-14-2007, 09:00 PM	#23
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals Originally Posted by CheramieIII Hence the word: CHEATERS! If I thought just Belichick was a cheater I would have said: CHEATER and I only called out a couple of names because I didn't feel like typing: 52 Alexander, Eric LB 6-2 240 2/8/82 3 LSU 23 Andrews, Willie CB 5-10 190 11/2/83 2 Baylor 32 Baker, Rashad S 5-10 198 2/22/82 4 Tennessee 88 Brady, Kyle TE 6-6 280 1/14/72 13 Penn State 12 Brady, Tom QB 6-4 225 8/3/77 8 Michigan 65 Britt, Wesley T 6-8 320 11/21/81 2 Alabama 98 Brown, Chad LB 6-2 245 7/12/70 15 Colorado 95 Brown, Kareem DT 6-4 295 1/30/84 R Miami (FL) 54 Bruschi, Tedy LB 6-1 247 6/9/73 12 Arizona 16 Cassel, Matt QB 6-4 230 5/17/82 3 USC 59 Colvin, Rosevelt LB 6-3 250 9/5/77 9 Purdue 44 Evans, Heath RB 6-0 250 12/30/78 7 Auburn 33 Faulk, Kevin RB 5-8 202 6/5/76 9 LSU 10 Gaffney, Jabar WR 6-1 200 12/1/80 6 Florida 21 Gay, Randall CB 5-11 190 5/5/82 4 LSU 3 Gostkowski, Stephen K 6-1 210 1/28/84 2 Memphis 97 Green, Jarvis DE 6-3 285 1/12/79 6 LSU 7 Gutierrez, Matt QB 6-4 230 6/9/84 R Idaho State 6 Hanson, Chris P 6-2 202 10/25/76 7 Marshall 27 Hobbs, Ellis CB 5-9 195 5/16/83 3 Iowa State 71 Hochstein, Russ G 6-4 305 10/7/77 6 Nebraska 53 Izzo, Larry LB 5-10 228 9/26/74 12 Rice 77 Kaczur, Nick T 6-4 315 7/28/79 3 Toledo 67 Koppen, Dan C 6-2 296 9/12/79 5 Boston College 72 Light, Matt T 6-4 305 6/23/78 7 Purdue 70 Mankins, Logan G 6-4 310 3/10/82 3 Fresno State 39 Maroney, Laurence RB 5-11 220 2/5/85 2 Minnesota 46 Mays, Corey LB 6-1 245 11/27/83 2 Notre Dame 31 Meriweather, Brandon S 5-11 200 1/14/84 R Miami (FL) 24 Mitchell, Mel S 6-1 225 2/10/79 6 Western Kentucky 34 Morris, Sammy RB 6-0 220 3/23/77 8 Texas Tech 81 Moss, Randy WR 6-4 210 2/13/77 10 Marshall 61 Neal, Stephen G 6-4 305 10/9/76 6 Cal State Bakersfield 68 O'Callaghan, Ryan T 6-7 330 7/19/83 2 California 66 Paxton, Lonie C 6-2 260 3/13/78 8 Sacramento State 22 Samuel, Asante CB 5-10 185 1/6/81 5 UCF 36 Sanders, James S 5-10 210 11/11/83 3 Fresno State 55 Seau, Junior LB 6-3 250 1/19/69 18 USC 90 Smith, Le Kevin DT 6-1 308 7/21/82 2 Nebraska 18 Stallworth, Donte' WR 6-0 200 11/10/80 6 Tennessee 96 Thomas, Adalius LB 6-2 270 8/18/77 8 Southern Miss 86 Thomas, David TE 6-3 248 7/5/83 2 Texas 92 Thomas, Santonio DT 6-4 305 7/2/81 1 Miami (FL) 50 Vrabel, Mike LB 6-4 261 8/14/75 11 Ohio State 94 Warren, Ty DT 6-5 300 2/6/81 5 Texas A&M 15 Washington, Kelley WR 6-3 215 8/21/79 5 Tennessee 84 Watson, Benjamin TE 6-3 255 12/18/80 4 Georgia 83 Welker, Wes WR 5-9 185 5/1/81 4 Texas Tech 75 Wilfork, Vince DT 6-2 325 11/4/81 4 Miami (FL) 26 Wilson, Eugene S 5-10 195 8/17/80 5 Illinois 58 Woods, Pierre LB 6-5 250 1/6/82 2 Michigan 99 Wright, Mike DT 6-4 295 3/1/82 3 Cincinnati 74 Yates, Billy G 6-2 305 4/15/80 4 Texas A&M Injured Reserve No. Player Pos Ht Wt DOB Exp College Hairston, Justise RB 6-1 210 6/27/83 R Central Connecticut State 49 Lua, Oscar LB 6-0 238 5/9/84 R USC 35 Richardson, Mike CB 5-11 190 2/18/84 R Notre Dame 30 Scott, Chad CB 6-1 205 9/6/74 11 Maryland and these guys are cheaters too and anyone who has ever played or coached for Belichick in New England is a CHEATER. Yes all of them are CHEATERS, I was just trying to save some time and site space. Good... at least your consistent. Quote: Originally Posted by CheramieIII Everyone, I have written e-mails to about 50 different news agencies, the NFL and all teams and here is my protest. I will not watch any other NFL games with the exception of games involving my home team. I will only watch NCAA football until Roger suspends Bill Belichick for at least 1 year. Send this to everyone you know and join the protest. Now that's what I'm talking about. Somebody who's pissed off as I am. Sorry but I myself don't think it's that big of a deal. Not saying I condone cheating, but I feel as if the punishment fits the crime already. I don't see a reason to totally boycott watching NFL football... more importantly, Saints football. In all seriousness, I don't think it played that big of a role of the Pats winning all those rings. But I guess that's something we'll never know for sure...
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09-15-2007, 11:23 AM	#28
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals This is my opinion: Belicheat never won anything until he started cheating as the head coach of the Patriots. Brady a second string QB at Michigan won't be as good in the future without the direction of the offensive coordinator who can't cheat anymore. The New England Patriots are nothing more than OJ or Vick to me now. They won those Superbowls by cheating, plain and simple. Well... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how the season plays out. I still believe the Pats are one of the best AFC teams and is one of the favorites to make it to the Superbowl. I'm sure even a division title should dis spell how little significance this is. I'm sure we'll see Tom Brady in the ProBowl again too. However Cher, I do understand your point of view on this.

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ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals Originally Posted by papz Well... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how the season plays out. I still believe the Pats are one of the best AFC teams and is one of the favorites to make it to the Superbowl. I'm sure even a division title should dis spell how little significance this is. I'm sure we'll see Tom Brady in the ProBowl again too. However Cher, I do understand your point of view on this. hey papz, here is an article by vic carruci on his take of belichick........ Pats' 'videogate' doesn't diminish Super success here was a letter i sent to his station on how i felt about it.... in response to your take on why the patriots 3 super bowl wins should stand.... does not one, I repeat one game sometimes makes the difference between making the playoffs or not? I doubt you could argue this.......... and, with this being the case, if just that one win with the help of cheating got the patriots there, should they not forfeit a super bowl title because of this? where are your morals? you can make the case that they have good players and coaches till you're blue in the face but it does not justify cheating. and that's just what they did............ if it's one thing the American people do not tolerate, it is cheating, especially in sports........ you'd do good to rethink your position on this........... Joe in Texas
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