What's Up With Drew Brees

FrenzyFan · 09-27-2007, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

No O-line. However, even when he does have time to throw he's been throwing junk balls.
Drew threw a ball way too high for Deuce and now Deuce is out for the year.
I love Drew. I hope that this team gets better before the Panthers. If not, I may have to sell my ticket for the Seattle/Saints game.

I agree whole-heartedly. Though its trendy to blame the poor play across the on the blocking, even when DB has time his passing is inaccurate and has no touch. This is the kind of arm I feared I would see last year. By no means have I given up on him (I think he's closer to the guy who played last year), but it concerns me that under the pressure of things not going right, he plays badly.

QBREES9 · 09-27-2007, 10:33 PM

read the post O-Line play you'll see

Euphoria · 09-27-2007, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by mjf150

The reason that Brees has looked bad is the same reason the running game can not move the ball - the O-Line can not block. If you look at most of Brees errant passes, you'll see that they were either tipped by a D-Lineman or Brees was hit. It is also the same reason that the team has lost the big-play threat. The O-Line can not hold off our opponents long enough for the receivers to get down field. If the team can fix the problems with the O-Line, then the team will become a contender again.

You speak the truth my man!

KangaSaint · 09-28-2007, 12:33 AM

Unless the O-line can step up his protection Brees will have a tough time making it work.

ChopperCitySaint · 09-28-2007, 12:39 AM

This is going to seem rather silly to some of you posters. But, I really believe that the season will be saved if they dig up those trophys and awards from last year and bury something from the year before. I think they buried our new team when we should have buried our old one. Sean Payton is in my opinion an excellent head coach, but I think right now he is outcoaching himself. He is trying to be to sly and he hasn't shown a pattern of any sort for a defense to be expecting. He is so busy try to throw a curve that he is forgeting about the heavy heater that got him to the little dance last season. We were supposed to be running at them hard, hitting that tight end we acquired and then busting them open with Colston and Henderson. What's happening? And now Duece. Oh yeah the defense. Lord help me please. Can Marvin Mitchell play any ball. He's on the practice team. Ring him up. Give him a cap. Let's see if he can make a play. Hell, that's better than play action on fourth and a half.
As far as the line goes. I can't understand how or why they would be this bad after being I thought very good. I would expect them to get stronger as a unit in their second campaign. It is unbelievable. It is unatural, therefore supernatural...i.e. VooDoo. And I ain't talking arena football. It is the casket full of awards, trophys, and a mock championship banner buried on Airline Hwy. They buried our championship spirit, mojo, swagger or whatever you want to call it. That's my opinion. And that and $1.25 will get ya to Canal on the Claibourne.

iceshack149 · 09-28-2007, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by ChopperCitySaint

Sean Payton is in my opinion an excellent head coach, but I think right now he is outcoaching himself. He is trying to be to sly and he hasn't shown a pattern of any sort for a defense to be expecting. He is so busy try to throw a curve that he is forgeting about the heavy heater that got him to the little dance last season. We were supposed to be running at them hard, hitting that tight end we acquired and then busting them open with Colston and Henderson. What's happening? And now Duece. Oh yeah the defense. Lord help me please. Can Marvin Mitchell play any ball. He's on the practice team. Ring him up. Give him a cap. Let's see if he can make a play. Hell, that's better than play action on fourth and a half.
As far as the line goes. I can't understand how or why they would be this bad after being I thought very good. I would expect them to get stronger as a unit in their second campaign.

Welcome back Stoney. Good post.
Peter King interviewed coach Payton and said that we will probably see a different o-line against the Panthers after the bye week. Bring on Alleman, Bushrod, and Streif. I'm eager to see some protection for Brees. When he's protected he's a great quarterback.

darstep · 09-28-2007, 09:42 AM

SaintsRule has a good memory - does anyone else? Where was all of the sympathy and support when Brooks was getting his head taken off. Brooks was at the top of his game until we opened up his blind side by letting Willie Roaf get away - straight down hill from there. Now Brees has ants in his pants and can't plant his feet. Average QB's would shine given time to throw coupled with a 4.7 yard per carry running game. No time and no running game, even homie Peyton would get his a$$ handed to him in our current scenerio.

Euphoria · 09-28-2007, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

SaintsRule has a good memory - does anyone else? Where was all of the sympathy and support when Brooks was getting his head taken off. Brooks was at the top of his game until we opened up his blind side by letting Willie Roaf get away - straight down hill from there. Now Brees has ants in his pants and can't plant his feet. Average QB's would shine given time to throw coupled with a 4.7 yard per carry running game. No time and no running game, even homie Peyton would get his a$$ handed to him in our current scenerio.

OH YES. I have been pointing out the problem has been our O Line for years and all anyone wanted to put the blame on was Brooks. Now Brees looks the same way. Until we fix the line even Manning would look the same way if we had him behind them.

Hell even Grossman got into a SB. Its not the freakin QB's its the protection.

LordOfEntropy · 09-28-2007, 01:16 PM

Is the O Line guilty? Hell yes, of course it is. But does anybody -really- believe Aaron Fumblitis Brooks could lead a team to a Superbowl? C'mon.

If Aaron Brooks had any value whatsoever - he'd have a job in the NFL.

darstep · 09-28-2007, 01:26 PM

Getting blind side stripped by 300 pounders is really not the QB's fault. It's hard to hang on to the ball even when you see those guys coming. Trying to force the ball into tight coverage just to get rid of it is on the QB. Low throws, high throws, weak throws to the sidelines are also on the QB. Brees needs time, throwing lanes, and receivers that will hang on to the ball. Receivers need time to get separation and CATCHABLE passes, hopefully in stride, that will allow them to add some after catch yards. It will only happen when the line gives them 4-6 seconds to get it done. Much tougher to do w/o a running game.

09-27-2007, 10:44 AM	#11
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees Originally Posted by iceshack149 No O-line. However, even when he does have time to throw he's been throwing junk balls. Drew threw a ball way too high for Deuce and now Deuce is out for the year. I love Drew. I hope that this team gets better before the Panthers. If not, I may have to sell my ticket for the Seattle/Saints game. I agree whole-heartedly. Though its trendy to blame the poor play across the on the blocking, even when DB has time his passing is inaccurate and has no touch. This is the kind of arm I feared I would see last year. By no means have I given up on him (I think he's closer to the guy who played last year), but it concerns me that under the pressure of things not going right, he plays badly.
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09-27-2007, 10:33 PM	#12
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees read the post O-Line play you'll see

09-27-2007, 11:25 PM	#13
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees Originally Posted by mjf150 The reason that Brees has looked bad is the same reason the running game can not move the ball - the O-Line can not block. If you look at most of Brees errant passes, you'll see that they were either tipped by a D-Lineman or Brees was hit. It is also the same reason that the team has lost the big-play threat. The O-Line can not hold off our opponents long enough for the receivers to get down field. If the team can fix the problems with the O-Line, then the team will become a contender again. You speak the truth my man!

09-28-2007, 12:33 AM	#14
KangaSaint Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Queensland Posts: 14	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees Unless the O-line can step up his protection Brees will have a tough time making it work.

09-28-2007, 12:39 AM	#15
ChopperCitySaint formerly SaintStoneyMount Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Uptown Posts: 1	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees This is going to seem rather silly to some of you posters. But, I really believe that the season will be saved if they dig up those trophys and awards from last year and bury something from the year before. I think they buried our new team when we should have buried our old one. Sean Payton is in my opinion an excellent head coach, but I think right now he is outcoaching himself. He is trying to be to sly and he hasn't shown a pattern of any sort for a defense to be expecting. He is so busy try to throw a curve that he is forgeting about the heavy heater that got him to the little dance last season. We were supposed to be running at them hard, hitting that tight end we acquired and then busting them open with Colston and Henderson. What's happening? And now Duece. Oh yeah the defense. Lord help me please. Can Marvin Mitchell play any ball. He's on the practice team. Ring him up. Give him a cap. Let's see if he can make a play. Hell, that's better than play action on fourth and a half. As far as the line goes. I can't understand how or why they would be this bad after being I thought very good. I would expect them to get stronger as a unit in their second campaign. It is unbelievable. It is unatural, therefore supernatural...i.e. VooDoo. And I ain't talking arena football. It is the casket full of awards, trophys, and a mock championship banner buried on Airline Hwy. They buried our championship spirit, mojo, swagger or whatever you want to call it. That's my opinion. And that and $1.25 will get ya to Canal on the Claibourne.
	Geaux Saints Chopper City Saint Says: 11-5 If we dig up the trophy's and put the 40 years before we went to the NFC Championship game in the casket.

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09-28-2007, 01:20 AM	#16
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,447 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees Originally Posted by ChopperCitySaint Sean Payton is in my opinion an excellent head coach, but I think right now he is outcoaching himself. He is trying to be to sly and he hasn't shown a pattern of any sort for a defense to be expecting. He is so busy try to throw a curve that he is forgeting about the heavy heater that got him to the little dance last season. We were supposed to be running at them hard, hitting that tight end we acquired and then busting them open with Colston and Henderson. What's happening? And now Duece. Oh yeah the defense. Lord help me please. Can Marvin Mitchell play any ball. He's on the practice team. Ring him up. Give him a cap. Let's see if he can make a play. Hell, that's better than play action on fourth and a half. As far as the line goes. I can't understand how or why they would be this bad after being I thought very good. I would expect them to get stronger as a unit in their second campaign. Welcome back Stoney. Good post. Peter King interviewed coach Payton and said that we will probably see a different o-line against the Panthers after the bye week. Bring on Alleman, Bushrod, and Streif. I'm eager to see some protection for Brees. When he's protected he's a great quarterback.

09-28-2007, 09:42 AM	#17
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees SaintsRule has a good memory - does anyone else? Where was all of the sympathy and support when Brooks was getting his head taken off. Brooks was at the top of his game until we opened up his blind side by letting Willie Roaf get away - straight down hill from there. Now Brees has ants in his pants and can't plant his feet. Average QB's would shine given time to throw coupled with a 4.7 yard per carry running game. No time and no running game, even homie Peyton would get his a$$ handed to him in our current scenerio.
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09-28-2007, 11:54 AM	#18
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees Originally Posted by darstep SaintsRule has a good memory - does anyone else? Where was all of the sympathy and support when Brooks was getting his head taken off. Brooks was at the top of his game until we opened up his blind side by letting Willie Roaf get away - straight down hill from there. Now Brees has ants in his pants and can't plant his feet. Average QB's would shine given time to throw coupled with a 4.7 yard per carry running game. No time and no running game, even homie Peyton would get his a$$ handed to him in our current scenerio. OH YES. I have been pointing out the problem has been our O Line for years and all anyone wanted to put the blame on was Brooks. Now Brees looks the same way. Until we fix the line even Manning would look the same way if we had him behind them. Hell even Grossman got into a SB. Its not the freakin QB's its the protection.

09-28-2007, 01:16 PM	#19
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees Is the O Line guilty? Hell yes, of course it is. But does anybody -really- believe Aaron Fumblitis Brooks could lead a team to a Superbowl? C'mon. If Aaron Brooks had any value whatsoever - he'd have a job in the NFL.

09-28-2007, 01:26 PM	#20
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: What's Up With Drew Brees Getting blind side stripped by 300 pounders is really not the QB's fault. It's hard to hang on to the ball even when you see those guys coming. Trying to force the ball into tight coverage just to get rid of it is on the QB. Low throws, high throws, weak throws to the sidelines are also on the QB. Brees needs time, throwing lanes, and receivers that will hang on to the ball. Receivers need time to get separation and CATCHABLE passes, hopefully in stride, that will allow them to add some after catch yards. It will only happen when the line gives them 4-6 seconds to get it done. Much tougher to do w/o a running game.
	SaintSince67