Why not Karney as our Hammer Back???
 

The guy has run better than all of our tailbacks when he's gotten the ball this year. I say let Ghent or another TE lead block (or maybe find Dudley if he's still around) and let Karney be our Deuce. He catches well and can run up the middle. Let Reggie keep doing his thing and pound it with Karney.

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I said the verry same thing but I don't see it hapening

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thats a great idea. wish i thought of it.

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Papa VooDoo has got the ticket! Establishing the run will make D-lineman stay home...and out of Brees' face. Karney can lead for Reggie, he can pass block, he can catch out of the back field, and has been very successful with the few carries he does get. He has shown that he can do it all. Sean Payton should let the Karney-vore do his thing...bring the pain...let him COMPLIMENT Reggie, and Stecker, and Thomas, and Drew, and Colston, and Moore, and ...

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The best way to break up a running play is Dline penatration. They move our Oline men like they are nothing. We know it will help but by how much.

We don't have a bring the pain team. WE are a finess team on Offense and a bend don't break D... not a bruiser type D.

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Payton should put Karney in the game often. This guy is like a Monster Truck. He can block and run the ball. Reggie needs to start running behind Karney if he wants to be succesful.

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From what I've seen Karney runs well up the middle and catches everything thrown to him. He's not Deuce, but Stecker is bigger than Thomas so neither of them is a bull. They can still get yards, but especially with the O-Line not blocking so well Karney will stick his nose in there and get a couple and may even bust through for some good runs. Reggie could be the distraction for Karney to keep the D off of him. I'm sure the Panthers won't think much eitehr if Karney is back there which may work out well for us.

Karney can get more yards with the O-Line blocking poorly than Reggie, Stecker, or Thomas.

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Yeah but...

I don't think we'll be scoring 30 plus points a game which we will need to do because of D play.

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John Karney is a Fullback.
John Karney is a Fullback.
John Karney is a Fullback.
John Karney is a Fullback.
John Karney is a Fullback.
John Karney is a Fullback.
John Karney is a Fullback.
John Karney is a Fullback.
John Karney is a Fullback.
John Karney is not a Halfback.

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Mike Alstott is a Fullback.
Mike Alstott is a Fullback.
Mike Alstott is a Fullback.
Mike Alstott is a Fullback.
Mike Alstott is a Fullback.
Mike Alstott is a Fullback.
Mike Alstott is a Fullback.
Mike Alstott is a Fullback.
Mike Alstott is not a Halfback.

Re: Why not Karney as our Hammer Back???
 

Ever wonder why they call the guy who stands all the way back in the offense a "halfback" and the guy who stands in between two guys is called a "fullback?"

Karney doesn't have the same atheleticism Alstott had back in the day.

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ummmm
well John Carney is a kicker
and
Mike Karney is a full back
but I'm not sure who John Karney is

lol
I know it was just a typo :mrgreen:

it doesn't matter anyway this horse has been beat well beyond death and we all know this will never happen anyway
so what difference does it make

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Well, lets see how the other guys do in the lead roll. I love Karney as a FB, not sure I really want to see him carry the ball 25 times a game. I agree that he should be kept in the game on most plays, as a blocker. At least he is about at the same playing weight, 258, that Deuce was. Come on, you guys really believed Deuce was only 230ish? I would say Deuce was playing closer to the 245 range. Maybe Karney can be an Alstott kind of guy, but I hope not. To me, Alstott was just an average blocker who got a few nice carries here and there. I would rather see Karney become the lead blocker of all time and spring Reggie for a 1600 yard season.

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I couldn't have said it better. With all do respect to you boys....lettin Karney play RB is ridiculous.

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John, Mike...po-tay-to, po-tah-to

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roflmao :mrgreen:

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Bellichick would use Karney as a RB no matter what his position is supposed to be if it woudl win games.

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You are absolutely correct. I just disagree that Karney at HB would be effective. Maybe you take a page out of the Bellichick playbook and run an LB at FB and then put Mike at HB in short yardage situations, maybe a package with Karney as a single back would work for a series, but I don't think it would work as a long-term solution.