Postgame Thoughts

darstep · 10-15-2007, 06:45 AM

Did anybody notice HOW Bush got sprung? Karney! Finally Payton gave Karney some playing time and everything blew up. The offensive line is the the same ole line that everyone here has been crying about for the 1st 5 weeks. The difference last night was Karney helping to plow a path for Bush and protecting Brees. Everbody seemed to contribute to a much needed win. Guys were actually hitting - it sounded good. People were diving for loose balls and playing with some passion - it felt good. Brees was comfortable in the pocket (1st half) and it looked good. Best of all, we held on to win, that is always good. I still have my concerns though: at the top of the list is the sluggish 2nd half. We were a couple of bad bounces away from a different 1st half. Seahawks hand us a touchdown on the first punt attempt, and then they give us back Patton's fumble 15 yards further down the field and we score. The game COULD have been much different and COULD have called for much better play in the 2nd half. It seems that we did only what we had to to win, and that leaves me reserved and cautious going forward.

CheramieIII · 10-15-2007, 10:51 AM

Payton held up in the second half and he should've done that. Payton also had a few bonehead play calls on third down to end drives. I'll take the win and now we have the Falcons and the 49ers the next two weeks. This means we will be 3-4 going into the showdown with the Jags at home. Damn it's not that far from 4-4. Can you smell what the rock is cookin?

Donuts32 · 10-15-2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Payton held up in the second half and he should've done that. Payton also had a few bonehead play calls on third down to end drives. I'll take the win and now we have the Falcons and the 49ers the next two weeks. This means we will be 3-4 going into the showdown with the Jags at home. Damn it's not that far from 4-4. Can you smell what the rock is cookin?

Cheramie I do indeed smell What The Rock is cookin. And thats the bottom line because Donuts32 said so.

papz · 10-15-2007, 08:07 AM

So much for us getting shut out this weekend eh fellas? It was obvious our offensive line and defensive line blows donkey poop.

Glad to see us get a win... and hopefully we'll get another one against Atlanta. The Panthers have a touch schedule coming up and I can seeing them losing 3 of their next 4 hopefully. Got to worry about the Bucs though... their upcoming schedule looks easy. One game at a time... still got plenty of games to go.

FrenzyFan · 10-15-2007, 08:47 AM

Thoughts? Happy ones, finally. It was so nice to watch my team come out on the field and control the game from beginning to end. I don't mind the defense giving up some passing yardage when they did, that's what happens when you are playing a clock control game from a big lead.

I agree that Hollis Thomas was a monster yesterday. I saw him run down someone from behind. The big man was incredible. Also agree that McKenzie was all over the place. Wish he would have caught that interception on the Seahawks' last play on offense. He deserved a big finish after the night he put in. Roman Harper made me smile a lot yesterday, and Charles Grant got his first sack on a stunt.

More than ALL of that combined though, I was so very pleased to see Drew Brees throwing the ball well in all phases of the game; short, mid-range, and deep. That eases my mind more than it all. Not even Reggie dancing through the defense could make me happier.

Great night of football, and I truly enjoyed it.

TheDeuce · 10-15-2007, 11:44 AM

I love that we applied some pressure on the quarterback with some different blitz packages. See what happened? Hasselback made some poor throws when he had guys in his face, and we also recorded 4 or 5 sacks. Very nicely done.

Reggie can be an every down back, Sean Payton just needs to stop calling cutesie plays and run the damn ball up the middle. If you run a stretch, screen pass, or swing pass every other play, it's not going to trick anybody. We need to stick to "bread and butter," which should be some inside and outside running plays and an intermediate passing game. I mean seriously, is it too much to ask for a freaking slant? We threw one last night and it worked beautifully. Slants, curls, etc. They work even if they're not as flashy as jailbreak screens and whatnot that Sean loves.

David Patten played great. Brees was much better too. Props to both of them for stepping up when we needed them.

EJ is a stud. Great hustle. One of the few hustle plays I've seen all year out of this offense.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-15-2007, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I love that we applied some pressure on the quarterback with some different blitz packages. See what happened? Hasselback made some poor throws when he had guys in his face, and we also recorded 4 or 5 sacks. Very nicely done.

The Saints should be blitzing most of the time exactly the way they did last night. Have folks coming from all directions.

Reggie can be an every down back, Sean Payton just needs to stop calling cutesie plays and run the damn ball up the middle. If you run a stretch, screen pass, or swing pass every other play, it's not going to trick anybody. We need to stick to "bread and butter," which should be some inside and outside running plays and an intermediate passing game.

I agree to a point. The Saints have neither the line nor the back to just line it up and run. The offense needs to incorporate misdirection into the running scheme. I like the end around wideout coming back into the backfield, forcing the contain man to account for them. I'd like to see more of the counter trey with a designed cutback.

I mean seriously, is it too much to ask for a freaking slant? We threw one last night and it worked beautifully. Slants, curls, etc. They work even if they're not as flashy as jailbreak screens and whatnot that Sean loves.

Agreed.

David Patten played great. Brees was much better too. Props to both of them for stepping up when we needed them.

Brees is a better QB when he isn't pressured every play. Hmmm, I think that's true of all NFL QBs.

EJ is a stud. Great hustle. One of the few hustle plays I've seen all year out of this offense.

And the guy can catch too.

SFIAH

Donuts32 · 10-15-2007, 12:05 PM

I'm still stuuned looking at Holiis Thomas. I cant believe a big man that size could run that fast. The defense did a heck of a job. Coach Payton must have read these forums about letting Karney get more playing. Congrats to the o-line for protecting Brees all night. We statring to resemble our team last year. Run Reggie Run.

Papa Voodoo · 10-15-2007, 12:35 PM

I'm happy we didn't stick with Devery. He just has no confidence. Moore and Patten looked good. I think the receivers are set finally. The O line played well against Carolina and Seattle for the most part so they look to be gelling.

Bush ran decisively up the middle and even threw his shoulder to finish runs. The D got lucky on a couple, especially when Simoneau was out in deep coverage. I would like to see Simmons at MLB still with how he played against Carolina. Usama looks good. Craft looks into the backfield instead of following his man.

I'd like to see Branch in on some runs. They played well and milked the clock in the second half. Holmgren should have kicked a FG and gone for an onsides kick at the end, but that's his problem. GO SAINTS!

10-15-2007, 06:45 AM	#1
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Postgame Thoughts Did anybody notice HOW Bush got sprung? Karney! Finally Payton gave Karney some playing time and everything blew up. The offensive line is the the same ole line that everyone here has been crying about for the 1st 5 weeks. The difference last night was Karney helping to plow a path for Bush and protecting Brees. Everbody seemed to contribute to a much needed win. Guys were actually hitting - it sounded good. People were diving for loose balls and playing with some passion - it felt good. Brees was comfortable in the pocket (1st half) and it looked good. Best of all, we held on to win, that is always good. I still have my concerns though: at the top of the list is the sluggish 2nd half. We were a couple of bad bounces away from a different 1st half. Seahawks hand us a touchdown on the first punt attempt, and then they give us back Patton's fumble 15 yards further down the field and we score. The game COULD have been much different and COULD have called for much better play in the 2nd half. It seems that we did only what we had to to win, and that leaves me reserved and cautious going forward.
	SaintSince67

10-15-2007, 10:51 AM	#2
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Postgame Thoughts Payton held up in the second half and he should've done that. Payton also had a few bonehead play calls on third down to end drives. I'll take the win and now we have the Falcons and the 49ers the next two weeks. This means we will be 3-4 going into the showdown with the Jags at home. Damn it's not that far from 4-4. Can you smell what the rock is cookin?

10-15-2007, 12:08 PM	#3
Donuts32 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Orleans,La Posts: 306	Re: Postgame Thoughts Originally Posted by CheramieIII Payton held up in the second half and he should've done that. Payton also had a few bonehead play calls on third down to end drives. I'll take the win and now we have the Falcons and the 49ers the next two weeks. This means we will be 3-4 going into the showdown with the Jags at home. Damn it's not that far from 4-4. Can you smell what the rock is cookin? Cheramie I do indeed smell What The Rock is cookin. And thats the bottom line because Donuts32 said so.

10-15-2007, 08:07 AM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	Re: Postgame Thoughts So much for us getting shut out this weekend eh fellas? It was obvious our offensive line and defensive line blows donkey poop. Glad to see us get a win... and hopefully we'll get another one against Atlanta. The Panthers have a touch schedule coming up and I can seeing them losing 3 of their next 4 hopefully. Got to worry about the Bucs though... their upcoming schedule looks easy. One game at a time... still got plenty of games to go.

10-15-2007, 08:47 AM	#5
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: Postgame Thoughts Thoughts? Happy ones, finally. It was so nice to watch my team come out on the field and control the game from beginning to end. I don't mind the defense giving up some passing yardage when they did, that's what happens when you are playing a clock control game from a big lead. I agree that Hollis Thomas was a monster yesterday. I saw him run down someone from behind. The big man was incredible. Also agree that McKenzie was all over the place. Wish he would have caught that interception on the Seahawks' last play on offense. He deserved a big finish after the night he put in. Roman Harper made me smile a lot yesterday, and Charles Grant got his first sack on a stunt. More than ALL of that combined though, I was so very pleased to see Drew Brees throwing the ball well in all phases of the game; short, mid-range, and deep. That eases my mind more than it all. Not even Reggie dancing through the defense could make me happier. Great night of football, and I truly enjoyed it.
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10-15-2007, 11:44 AM	#6
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Postgame Thoughts I love that we applied some pressure on the quarterback with some different blitz packages. See what happened? Hasselback made some poor throws when he had guys in his face, and we also recorded 4 or 5 sacks. Very nicely done. Reggie can be an every down back, Sean Payton just needs to stop calling cutesie plays and run the damn ball up the middle. If you run a stretch, screen pass, or swing pass every other play, it's not going to trick anybody. We need to stick to "bread and butter," which should be some inside and outside running plays and an intermediate passing game. I mean seriously, is it too much to ask for a freaking slant? We threw one last night and it worked beautifully. Slants, curls, etc. They work even if they're not as flashy as jailbreak screens and whatnot that Sean loves. David Patten played great. Brees was much better too. Props to both of them for stepping up when we needed them. EJ is a stud. Great hustle. One of the few hustle plays I've seen all year out of this offense.
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10-15-2007, 12:56 PM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,785	Re: Postgame Thoughts Originally Posted by TheDeuce I love that we applied some pressure on the quarterback with some different blitz packages. See what happened? Hasselback made some poor throws when he had guys in his face, and we also recorded 4 or 5 sacks. Very nicely done. The Saints should be blitzing most of the time exactly the way they did last night. Have folks coming from all directions. Reggie can be an every down back, Sean Payton just needs to stop calling cutesie plays and run the damn ball up the middle. If you run a stretch, screen pass, or swing pass every other play, it's not going to trick anybody. We need to stick to "bread and butter," which should be some inside and outside running plays and an intermediate passing game. I agree to a point. The Saints have neither the line nor the back to just line it up and run. The offense needs to incorporate misdirection into the running scheme. I like the end around wideout coming back into the backfield, forcing the contain man to account for them. I'd like to see more of the counter trey with a designed cutback. I mean seriously, is it too much to ask for a freaking slant? We threw one last night and it worked beautifully. Slants, curls, etc. They work even if they're not as flashy as jailbreak screens and whatnot that Sean loves. Agreed. David Patten played great. Brees was much better too. Props to both of them for stepping up when we needed them. Brees is a better QB when he isn't pressured every play. Hmmm, I think that's true of all NFL QBs. EJ is a stud. Great hustle. One of the few hustle plays I've seen all year out of this offense. And the guy can catch too. SFIAH
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10-15-2007, 12:05 PM	#8
Donuts32 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Orleans,La Posts: 306	Re: Postgame Thoughts I'm still stuuned looking at Holiis Thomas. I cant believe a big man that size could run that fast. The defense did a heck of a job. Coach Payton must have read these forums about letting Karney get more playing. Congrats to the o-line for protecting Brees all night. We statring to resemble our team last year. Run Reggie Run.

10-15-2007, 12:35 PM	#9
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Postgame Thoughts I'm happy we didn't stick with Devery. He just has no confidence. Moore and Patten looked good. I think the receivers are set finally. The O line played well against Carolina and Seattle for the most part so they look to be gelling. Bush ran decisively up the middle and even threw his shoulder to finish runs. The D got lucky on a couple, especially when Simoneau was out in deep coverage. I would like to see Simmons at MLB still with how he played against Carolina. Usama looks good. Craft looks into the backfield instead of following his man. I'd like to see Branch in on some runs. They played well and milked the clock in the second half. Holmgren should have kicked a FG and gone for an onsides kick at the end, but that's his problem. GO SAINTS!