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Tobias-Reiper 11-26-2007 03:22 PM

McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
Since no one is giving props to him, I'm going to. MM was tested early and he responded, which I thought set up the tone for the defense, making plays on Steve Smith.


... on a side note, the one thing I can't explain, is why the Panthers didn't match Drew Carter with 3rd Down..

papz 11-26-2007 03:24 PM

Re: McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
Great great game by Mike... someone needed to step up and lead that secondary. Hopefully this will continue.

LordOfEntropy 11-26-2007 03:48 PM

Re: McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
He broke up a lot of passes, yeah. I thought he played well. Wish he could've held onto one.

The one play I'm going to rag on him for is that fumble he should've recovered. Instead of dropping onto the ball, he tried to scoop it up on the run. And got tackled from behind while trying to do it.

Other than that, great game MM.

NEXTPROBOWLER 11-26-2007 04:09 PM

Re: McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
McKenzie is the most solid in the secondary, has been all year...........

BoudinSandwich 11-26-2007 04:18 PM

Re: McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
He played like he was possessed.

The thing about it, though is sometimes he's too aggressive. If he misses his tackle or shot at an interception, the WR has a clear path to the endzone. However, I'd take his aggressive play, hard hits, and the chance for turnovers rather than just have him sitting back and letting the WR dictate how he covers.

Props for MM!

Crusader 11-26-2007 04:36 PM

Re: McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy (Post 147366)
The one play I'm going to rag on him for is that fumble he should've recovered. Instead of dropping onto the ball, he tried to scoop it up on the run. And got tackled from behind while trying to do it.

From seing what happened its easy to get down on the guy for that but really he was just trying to make a play, no fault in that.

Kittykat 11-26-2007 04:37 PM

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I've loved watching Mike McKenzie ever since he played for GB. No one can ever say that he gives up, he's always there and checked in to play.

I'll grant you that sometimes he gets a little overzealous but I'll take that anyday over the alternative.

Turbo Saint 11-26-2007 05:20 PM

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MM rocks...him and harper are the bright points of the secondary.

hagan714 11-26-2007 06:59 PM

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Hollis and M&M both have that defensive mentality that we need. Aggressive with a nasty streak. Imagine a CB good enough to force M&M to the #2 roll. Now we are talking. I hope young reads this. I am counting on him.

UK_WhoDat 11-26-2007 07:04 PM

Re: McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kittykat (Post 147386)
I've loved watching Mike McKenzie ever since he played for GB. No one can ever say that he gives up, he's always there and checked in to play.

I'll grant you that sometimes he gets a little overzealous but I'll take that anyday over the alternative.

Overzealous? Bit of a nutter if you ask me. I thought he was a gr8 FA for the Saints. Don't think he has reproduced his GBP form but he is the most consistent since 2004 though.

(My problem is that I remember having really high hopes of Eric Allen back in the 90s but felt he took our money without playing).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo Saint (Post 147396)
MM rocks...him and harper are the bright points of the secondary.

Harper - please to see him playing again. Yes!

UK_WhoDat 11-26-2007 07:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 147420)
Hollis and M&M both have that defensive mentality that we need. Aggressive with a nasty streak. Imagine a CB good enough to force M&M to the #2 roll. Now we are talking. I hope young reads this. I am counting on him.

Mr Hollis. With or without inhaler, you really notice when he is not there. I for one would never get on the wrong side of him.

JOESAM2002 11-26-2007 09:32 PM

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Both are playing very well right now. We need that to spread among the rest of the defense. The defense did play better Sunday though.

LordOfEntropy 11-27-2007 07:31 AM

Re: McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat (Post 147427)
Mr Hollis. With or without inhaler, you really notice when he is not there. I for one would never get on the wrong side of him.

Don't worry - you could drive for hours and never reach his other side. Guy looks like a mountain stuffed into a halter top.

Budsdrinker 11-27-2007 09:29 AM

Re: McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat (Post 147424)
Overzealous? Bit of a nutter if you ask me. I thought he was a gr8 FA for the Saints. Don't think he has reproduced his GBP form but he is the most consistent since 2004 though.

(My problem is that I remember having really high hopes of Eric Allen back in the 90s but felt he took our money without playing).



Harper - please to see him playing again. Yes!

He had help in Green Bay with Al Harris on the other side. The first year here I was thinking he was going to be just like Eric Allen or Tbuck Jones just take the money but in the last 2 years he has really performmed well both on and off the field.

BoudinSandwich 11-27-2007 03:37 PM

Re: McKenzie setting up the tone.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat (Post 147424)
Overzealous? Bit of a nutter if you ask me. I thought he was a gr8 FA for the Saints. Don't think he has reproduced his GBP form but he is the most consistent since 2004 though.

(My problem is that I remember having really high hopes of Eric Allen back in the 90s but felt he took our money without playing).



Harper - please to see him playing again. Yes!

McKenzie used to excell at his technique when he played for Green Bay. Just before he became a Saint, the NFL changed some of their rules in order to protect receivers a bit more, making some of McKenzie's technique illegal. He's had to readjust the way he plays over the last few years. Early on, he struggled. He also showed a lack of enthusiasm by taking plays off when we had bad seasons.

However, when he feels inspired, he plays more ferociously than anyone else on the field. He's extremely aggressive and confident and it steps up his game. I also think he's managed to readjust his technique over the past few seasons and has once again obtained a level of excellence.

mikesaintfan 11-28-2007 06:53 PM

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usama young needs to be our #2 and get J.D, out. I know he makes a lot of money but he is just too short and not that good.

procto 11-29-2007 10:52 AM

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call me crazy but i think MM plays well every year! he might not be the best corner in the league but ....thinking before i say this......yeah i believe he is the best in our division. hall is good too but has a attitude problem. MM's problem is that he has never had support in the secondary until now a little with harper. I believe Craft could give him some help but i am not one of those guys that likes to tell coaches who to play. they obviously know more than any of us.


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