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WhoDat205 12-03-2007 11:41 AM

What's Up With Reggie???
 
Aside from not living up to the hype when he was coming out of college, he seems to have regressed in the last few games. He had stone hands in that game and has been dropping passes for a while now. I've seen Drew yelling at him at least twice, he constantly looks dejected on the sidelines, he hasn't broken any big plays all season. He's gotta be frustrated with himself and the team. Is the love affair over? Is it time to go in a new direction?

papz 12-03-2007 11:43 AM

Re: What's Up With Reggie???
 
Lack of confidence.

Euphoria 12-03-2007 11:44 AM

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You just opened a whole can of worms. Reggie's draft was purely a buisness decision it wasn't the best football decision. He wasn't the best football player that would help you win games. He just puts butts in seats.

papz 12-03-2007 11:45 AM

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Mercy... please let's not go down this road again.

WhoDat205 12-03-2007 11:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 148108)
You just opened a whole can of worms. Reggie's draft was purely a buisness decision it wasn't the best football decision. He wasn't the best football player that would help you win games. He just puts butts in seats.

For me, it's easy to look back almost two years out and say that Reggie isn't as good as Hawk, MJD, Addai, etc...and I realize that you called it. That's a great prediction. Almost the entire country was shocked that Reggie went to #2 and most called it a windfall for the saints. Hell, Carsserly might have lost his job over picking Mario.

Honestly, that's all irrelevant today, though. We don't get a mulligan and honestly, the 06 draft was probably the best in Saints history, top to bottom. So my questions are, do we shop Reggie? Does he have any trade value? Does he want out? Would anyone take him? Can Payton just not figure out how to use him? Would it be different if Deuce were healthy?

NEXTPROBOWLER 12-03-2007 01:04 PM

Re: What's Up With Reggie???
 
even tho the offense was terrible this season when duece was healthy, i cant help but think its cause he is not around that reggie is playing bad, reggie has to do more then he ever has to..if he was force to do it himself at usc then he wouldnt have been as good, reggie needs to share the backfield with a true running back, someone else that can get 15-20 rushes while reggie only 5-10 rushes and catches passes......reggie cant handle the work load, we all knew that before we drafted him, before we knew we had a chance to draft him, we all said he wasnt an nfl-type everydown back.

hagan714 12-03-2007 01:15 PM

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I still stand by my choice: D'Brickashaw Montgomery Ferguson
But that is here nor there. He is not in B&G. Reggie is and now we need to get him going.

Nemesis 12-03-2007 01:55 PM

Re: What's Up With Reggie???
 
Teams don't go in new direction after investing this type of coin on a player, within 5years. Bush is in integral part of the scheme, and is trailing Willie Parker by 1/10 YPC. The Saints' OL would never be confused with the Steelers. Bush is also leading Alexander, among others. His contributions in the passing game are beyond valuable, even if he's merely a decoy. He really doesn't get enough carries to establish a rhythm. Bush isn't a disappointing top 5 pick. One could question Eli's stature, though...

LongTimeFan 12-03-2007 07:59 PM

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I'm starting to feel that he's not the type of RB that can win you close games, he's just in his second season so I'll hold off on calling him a bust.

Budsdrinker 12-03-2007 09:02 PM

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Still you have to look at how he is being used. We don't have an over powering OL and very rarely does Bush get Karney in the backfield. I think right now it is too early to give up on Reggie, I think we need to compare him to Tiki Barber. When Barber first came in the league he was used primarly as a 3rd down back until he learned how to run in the NFL. I think you have to give him another year and check his progress by midseason next year.

blacksaint 12-03-2007 09:53 PM

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Everybody is coming down on Reggie, and the reality is, It's not Reggie's fault. Reggie had a nice per carry average in this game (like in the last few games), but the coaching staff is just not committed to the run. This kid has the same injury as WR Steve Smith from Carolina had and he missed like two games. How many games did Reggie miss? NONE!, If the coaches don't run him like they are supposed to, why do we blame him? Why we don't blame the coaching staff? Everybody say this kid can't carry the running game, but how do we know this when the coaching staff is not committed to it? Let's not condemned the kid before he is giving an honest opportunity by the coaching staff to prove himself.

JOESAM2002 12-04-2007 12:07 AM

Re: What's Up With Reggie???
 
I for one don't have a problem with Reggie. I don't think the staff is useing him right. However,I don't see him as an every down back either. He's just not suited to that. We need a big bruising back to pound into the defense. Someone that will make them think,oh no, here he comes again. Pound it on them. Run the ball down their throat.

Nemesis 12-04-2007 12:29 AM

Re: What's Up With Reggie???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 148137)
I still stand by my choice: D'Brickashaw Montgomery Ferguson
But that is here nor there. He is not in B&G. Reggie is and now we need to get him goingl.

Since we're keepin it real, I wanted to trade down for Cutler until Brees was signed. I then focused on D Brick and Mangold. When we signed our C, then the second pick became an LB. The Jets offered their two #1s, and I think change for Matrix.

I am in no way downing him, but I believed an RB wasn't a glaring need with Deuce and Steck in camp. I respected the staff decision to get a player with the potential of Matrix in camp, along with his star power getting butts in the seats. I also respect his work ethic, community efforts, and desire to be the best. I hope he does just that, and in no way am I disappointed by his progress thus far.

hagan714 12-04-2007 07:16 AM

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I can get down on Bush because the OL was not built with running as it number one priority. They are a pass blocking unit. If running was key then Brown would be back at RT. Till we address LT and get our best RT in position. Bush gets a pass.

SapperSaint 12-04-2007 07:20 AM

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I was/am a Reggie supporter. However, I am starting to think that when RB was at USC he was a "Big Fish" in a small pond, and now he is playing against defenses that are as fast as he his and he doesn't know who to adjust to the speed of the NFL.

Knowing the luck of the Saints, if they were to trade him away to any other team, he would explode and be a Barry Sanders. Joe is right. He is not being used correctly.

G504 12-04-2007 01:16 PM

Re: What's Up With Reggie???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LongTimeFan (Post 148192)
I'm starting to feel that he's not the type of RB that can win you close games, he's just in his second season so I'll hold off on calling him a bust.

Co-sign. Let's give him, Payton, Brees, and all the new guys a chance. I know everybody wants to win a Superbowl now, but let's face it. We ain't beatin' Indy or New England if we through some miracle did make the playoffs AND beat Dallas & Green Bay. No matter how you slice it, we were looking at '09 the earliest anyway.

But dang, can we hire Barry Sanders to teach Reggie how to read his blocks?


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