Reggie Bush - WR
 

If Duece comes back next year with the Saints, do you think it would be a bad idea to use Reggie primarily as a Wideout? I like Reggie alot, and I often find myself defending him, but I think having him opposite of Colston, with Duece and PT in the backfield, would be dangerous.

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We have no idea how Deuce will recover from his injury. Bush was drafted to be a franchise back... it's only 2 years into his development. No need to give up and make him into a receiver. He's dangerous the way we were using him... he just wasn't as effective this year.

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I'm not ready to give up on him either, that is why I said "primarily". I still think he can be effective in the RB position. However, I think that most of the difficulty Reggie has had is finding open space. I believe that as a WR, he would be in open space more often, and that is where he is most dangerous to the opponents.

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The problem though is RB's tend to get hurt much more often than WR's. I think Reggie should be used like last year, HE IS NOT A FRANCHISE RB. A Peteson(MIN), LT, M Lynch, McGahee, Gore, Portis, those guys are Franchise RB's. Bush is a franchise player, but should not be confined to a RB role, when he can do so much more and we can hopefully keep him healthier as a non full time RB.

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Actually the Chicago Adrian Peterson had his name legally changed to "The Other Adrian Petersen."

Somthing I've wondered a lot about is why we never see Reggie on deep routes. It's always swing passes and underneath stuff. How many guys in the NFL can run with Reggie? 10, maybe? Why not send him deep? SC did it.

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That's college football WhoDat205... linebackers these days that can run with Reggie.

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Give me this match-up all day. If you do have a LB that can run with Reggie, get them for our team, we need that freak.

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I disagree, papz. He ran a 4.33 in 06. That's what Calvin Johnson ran at the combine. Can LB hang with him?

Here's a list of the top five 40 times for LBs in the league today:

1) Manny Lawson (4.43 @ 2006 NFL Combine)

2) Teddy Lehman (4.48 @ 2004 NFL Combine)

3) Ernie Sims (4.50 @ 2006 NFL Combine)

4) Patrick Willis (4.51 @ 2007 NFL Combine)

5) Adalius Thomas (4.51)

Linebacker

The closest one to Reggie is 0.10 seconds slower. Now if they have an angle on an underneath route, then maybe they can catch him, but in the open field when Reggie knows the route, a LB is screwed.

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I agree send him on a deep route now and then. I think there is an element of surprise to it, and I don't think there are too many LB's who could keep pace. The only unknown is whether or not he is willing to go up and fight for the ball.

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Not saying it couldn't hurt to do it every now and then nor am I saying it wouldn't work... but just because it worked at SC doesn't mean it will work in the NFL. A majority of things that worked at USC has not translated into success here for him.

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He wasn't drafted to be a feature back...
He was drafted to sale jerseys. He was NEVER a feature back in College why would you draft a guy to be a feature back who wasn't in college. He sales jerseys. Its was a business draft pick is all it was.

Reggie is a slashing slot WR and a alternating RB and Returner. That is what Reggie is.

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...BINGO!!

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This must have been the millionth time you've said this... literally. I already know how you feel about Bush... no need to repeat yourself over and over.

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pump fake the screen and run the streak. If O-line protects its TD the first time they run it. Like the only time we sent reggie deep on wheel route in NFC champ. TD

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Boss Bailey?

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Henderson walks away FA then maybe Bush can do spot duty flanked out on the edge.

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Its still true.
Still needed to be said when you call him a feature back, I figure I'd at least put a disclaimer there.

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Now see this goes back to you having trouble understanding things. I said he was drafted to be a franchise back. When you draft a player that high, they're usually looked upon being a franchise player... someone you build around. I didn't call him a franchise back... but since we're on the subject, I do believe he will develop into one in time.

He certainly wasn't drafted just to sell jerseys because that absolutely retarded. He was drafted to help us win games.

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Well it would also be retarded to think that drafting Reggie was a football decision because there were other players in other areas we needed more than another feature RB.

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He was drafted to sell jerseys. Saints sold a lot of jerseys after making it to the conference championship game. Thats how you sell jerseys you win games, make it to the playoffs, win your division, make it to one game away from the Superbowl. What ever you want to label him or however you define his playing style one year we pick 2nd in the draft and we go further than this team has ever gone before. Does Bush get all the credit nah I'm not saying that. By the same token can you say we would have gotten there without him. Well some may say sure we would have gone all the way if he wasnt holding us back. Me I would always rather see #26 running the ball but that aint gonna happen anymore so if not #26 I'll pull for #25.
So to those who say he is a bust or we passed on better players since there is no way to prove your point give him a little credit for helping this team get further than it ever has. After our underachieving 0-4 start we have a shot at finishing with a winning record 2 years in a row. How many times has that happened in our rich winning history? 2nd on the team in receptions I'll give the numbers of his average when he runs or catches when I start a post giving props to the o-line.
I hope he continues to improve and stays a Saint for life. I like to see the blackngold on Subway,Visa or whatever else he shots commercials for. And he makes those companies kick in a little money for the rebuild of NO.

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All of the money will stop if he does not perform. he likes Hollywood to much to loose all the extra cash. He will bounce back. The Saints will reinforce the OL to help it happen. If Bush can not slow down the line will have to get quicker.

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How many games did we win last year and how important was he to our team? Also do you understand what drafting the BPA means?

Nevermind it goes in one ear, gets rejected, and goes out the same ear. Man... sometimes you really have to wonder if he's just playing around. :confused:

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I am just going to throw this out there, you don't have to agree with me. I think that the primary reason Reggie Bush has been ineffective as a running back so far this season is because he is being misused. We look at the last two games and how Sean Payton has utilized Aaron Stecker (a more conventional type of running back) and we say, "wow, why couldn't Reggie do this?" Well, I honestly believe it's because Reggie doesn't get the chance to.

When was the last time you watched a Saints game and saw Reggie get 10-15 carries right up the middle on a HB Iso or run over the guard? I'd bet that the closest game to that would be the Seattle game in which he rushed for 97 yards on 19 carries. But when I think about the other games, and the other times that I've seen Sean Payton use Reggie, I just can't honestly think of a time when they were committed to running it up the middle. Typically Payton has called swing passes and screens and off tackle runs; things that may work every once in a while, but the defense can start to learn what to look for. Now I'm not saying that it is completely Sean Payton's fault, but I would be very curious to see a breakdown of the playcalling and whether or not Reggie has even gotten the chance to look like a feature running back.

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I agree. The league has already adjusted to the way we use Reggie. There's enough film out there going back from last year making those plays that were so effective last year... not as successful this year. I agree in the games we've used Reggie the more conventional way, he's had success running up the middle. It showed prior to him getting hurt. We've become a bit predictable when Reggie's on the field... we need a good balance. It took time before Philly was able to get Westbrook up to his full playmaking potential... give Payton and Reggie time and it will all work out by itself.

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I think the doubting of reggie is premature. he was thrust into a new role this season, and played pretty well (4 games with over 100 total yards). He has had a bit of a problem holding on to the ball, but I think that is a result of him trying too hard to make things happen. Also he played his last 3-4 games with a bum knee.

I think the saints will have a really scary offense if they use a two back system, as they did last year. Whether it's Duece or Stecker (Who has been great). Bush has been playing a role that was not really part of the plan. Since he has been out the team has relied more on Brees making things hapen and using Stecker as a more traditional back. If we make the playoffs and Bush comes back, Peyton needs to find a way to fit him into the gameplan without having him carry the offense. He is not LT yet, and neither is Peterson for that matter, but Reggie can really pen up the offensive playbook when he is used in the right way.