Payton gets head start on evaluations

QBREES9 · 01-07-2008, 08:36 PM

2theadvocate.com | Sports | Mickles: Payton gets head start on evaluations — Baton Rouge, LA

“The first step in this process is evaluating our own players and our own scheme,” Payton said last week. “We’ll spend time looking ‘A to Z’ at our roster — defensively, offensively and the kicking game — and we will set up our areas of needs where we feel like we have to improve.

“There are a number of things we have to look to do to improve our team,” he said. “When you come away from the season it’s easy to point to certain statistics in a good or bad way, but we need to improve our defense. That’s something we’ll look at hard this offseason in regards to how we can help over there.”

NYSaintsFan · 01-07-2008, 08:48 PM

I think this year was a wake up call for Sean Payton. In his first season, nothing went wrong. Every "cute" play turned into a big gain, every blitz got pressure on the QB, etc. But this year, reality struck, and I think Sean learned alot this year and will move on and become a great leader for many years

MatthewT · 01-07-2008, 09:07 PM

It going to be very interesting to see what the Saints do with their defense. You can pretty much assume that Jason David will be starting again, along with Usama Young. That pretty much tells me the Saints will need to convert to a true cover 2 style, so they can mask the weakness at the CB position. Dang, there are just so many holes right now, which ones do you try to plug up? The Saints will not get everything plugged in this off-season, but hopefully they can get that defense to be at least alright. Free agency is not looking too promising as teams are already locking up their key players.

SapperSaint · 01-08-2008, 08:12 AM

This may be a very good thing. Payton may do a little house cleaning.

Kittykat · 01-08-2008, 08:47 AM

What are the chances that Jason David can come back next season and be on his game? In all sincerity, is this something that he can "fix" during the off-season? If he's going to be starting again in the fall I would really like to think that he can come back and his performance be much improved. (It can't get worse, can it?)

Usama Young doesn't worry me as much...he's still young and impressionable.

Tobias-Reiper · 01-08-2008, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Kittykat

What are the chances that Jason David can come back next season and be on his game?

The problem is that what you saw this season IS David's game. It's only that his ineptitude was masked by the play of some players around him like Freeney and Sanders, not to mention an offense that has steam-rolled opponents the past 3-4 years.

Kittykat · 01-09-2008, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

The problem is that what you saw this season IS David's game. It's only that his ineptitude was masked by the play of some players around him like Freeney and Sanders, not to mention an offense that has steam-rolled opponents the past 3-4 years.

*fingers in ears*

LALALA I'M NOT LISTENING!

So you think there's no possibility he can be "re-trained"? The eternal optimist in me says that he will be forced to watch his film from this season for the next two months and then train is butt off and come out next season like a new CB.

Honestly, I don't know what worries me more. Seeing Jason David or not seeing Mike McKenzie next season.

hagan714 · 01-09-2008, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Kittykat

What are the chances that Jason David can come back next season and be on his game? In all sincerity, is this something that he can "fix" during the off-season? If he's going to be starting again in the fall I would really like to think that he can come back and his performance be much improved. (It can't get worse, can it?)

Usama Young doesn't worry me as much...he's still young and impressionable.

I was hoping for at least one solid vet to be added so David can be moved to the #3 CB position. That is where he should be. Inside with all the LB and S help he needs. M&M injury hurts us big time. So now I have to hope for two vets to be added. Thats where the faith in Younge comes in. Is he going to be ready to take over the #2 by seasons end?

WVSaint · 01-08-2008, 09:07 AM

maybe some of his positioning is something he can fix. though if he grew about 4-5 inches in the offseason id be a little happier, i dont think being 5'8 is fixable.

Cancer Beater · 01-08-2008, 04:44 PM

What would be the cap hit for letting David go?

01-07-2008, 08:36 PM	#1
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01-07-2008, 08:48 PM	#2
NYSaintsFan Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10	Re: Payton gets head start on evaluations I think this year was a wake up call for Sean Payton. In his first season, nothing went wrong. Every "cute" play turned into a big gain, every blitz got pressure on the QB, etc. But this year, reality struck, and I think Sean learned alot this year and will move on and become a great leader for many years
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01-08-2008, 08:12 AM	#4
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Payton gets head start on evaluations This may be a very good thing. Payton may do a little house cleaning.

01-08-2008, 08:47 AM	#5
Kittykat 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Heart of Dixie Posts: 124	Re: Payton gets head start on evaluations What are the chances that Jason David can come back next season and be on his game? In all sincerity, is this something that he can "fix" during the off-season? If he's going to be starting again in the fall I would really like to think that he can come back and his performance be much improved. (It can't get worse, can it?) Usama Young doesn't worry me as much...he's still young and impressionable.

01-08-2008, 08:34 PM	#6
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Payton gets head start on evaluations Originally Posted by Kittykat What are the chances that Jason David can come back next season and be on his game? The problem is that what you saw this season IS David's game. It's only that his ineptitude was masked by the play of some players around him like Freeney and Sanders, not to mention an offense that has steam-rolled opponents the past 3-4 years.

01-07-2008, 09:07 PM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Payton gets head start on evaluations It going to be very interesting to see what the Saints do with their defense. You can pretty much assume that Jason David will be starting again, along with Usama Young. That pretty much tells me the Saints will need to convert to a true cover 2 style, so they can mask the weakness at the CB position. Dang, there are just so many holes right now, which ones do you try to plug up? The Saints will not get everything plugged in this off-season, but hopefully they can get that defense to be at least alright. Free agency is not looking too promising as teams are already locking up their key players.

01-09-2008, 06:38 AM	#7
Kittykat 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Heart of Dixie Posts: 124	Re: Payton gets head start on evaluations Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper The problem is that what you saw this season IS David's game. It's only that his ineptitude was masked by the play of some players around him like Freeney and Sanders, not to mention an offense that has steam-rolled opponents the past 3-4 years. fingers in ears LALALA I'M NOT LISTENING! So you think there's no possibility he can be "re-trained"? The eternal optimist in me says that he will be forced to watch his film from this season for the next two months and then train is butt off and come out next season like a new CB. Honestly, I don't know what worries me more. Seeing Jason David or not seeing Mike McKenzie next season.

01-09-2008, 04:28 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Payton gets head start on evaluations Originally Posted by Kittykat What are the chances that Jason David can come back next season and be on his game? In all sincerity, is this something that he can "fix" during the off-season? If he's going to be starting again in the fall I would really like to think that he can come back and his performance be much improved. (It can't get worse, can it?) Usama Young doesn't worry me as much...he's still young and impressionable. I was hoping for at least one solid vet to be added so David can be moved to the #3 CB position. That is where he should be. Inside with all the LB and S help he needs. M&M injury hurts us big time. So now I have to hope for two vets to be added. Thats where the faith in Younge comes in. Is he going to be ready to take over the #2 by seasons end?

01-08-2008, 09:07 AM	#9
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: Payton gets head start on evaluations maybe some of his positioning is something he can fix. though if he grew about 4-5 inches in the offseason id be a little happier, i dont think being 5'8 is fixable.

01-08-2008, 04:44 PM	#10
Cancer Beater 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 154	Re: Payton gets head start on evaluations What would be the cap hit for letting David go?
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