McFadden vs Thomas

SapperSaint · 01-15-2008, 01:09 PM

I am against going with an offensive player for the first three rounds. We need STUDS and I mean STUD defensive players. LB's, Dline-man, CB's and FS's.

Would I be sick if we didn't pick up D-mac...sure I would. But the needs of the team out wieght the need for another RB (at least for now).

SapperSaint · 01-15-2008, 02:46 PM

PT will be a good RB. He has shown me more in that one game than Reggie has in two years. I am giving Reggie one more year before I call him the worlds biggest draft bust.

Budsdrinker · 01-15-2008, 08:36 PM

Heisman voting doesn't make you an NFL running back. We have a winner of the Heisman trophy and he hasn't figured out the NFL yet. Now I'm not saying McFadden won't be a good RB in the NFL but right now I don't think it is a position we need to look at in the first round.

TheDeuce · 01-15-2008, 09:34 PM

I'm not sure that you take him, especially with Deuce and Reggie on schedule to be healthy by the start of training camp, but McFadden is definitely a player. He's been a difference maker for years.

SapperSaint · 01-16-2008, 12:14 PM

Totally agree with you on the LSU DB's, Guru. I would love to see them picked up.

TheDeuce · 01-16-2008, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Totally agree with you on the LSU DB's, Guru. I would love to see them picked up.

I would agree with that too, but I doubt Chevis Jackson is still around in the 4th round. I think he's being projected as a 2nd round guy.

And I would agree that maybe Deuce's time is past him, but I disagree that he has been over the hill for the last few seasons. He was a big reason for our success in 2006, and was the MVP of our playoff win against Philadelphia. I know I'm a bit of a Deuce homer, but I still have faith that he's going to come back and be the same guy he was before the knee injury.

dasaints26 · 01-16-2008, 10:02 PM

Preseason matters if you are trying to get a job on an nfl team and PThomas made the most of the opportunity. He runs the ball with a purpose get positive yards. Sure the numbers dont mean much since he didnt play alot but our longest run of the year was 26 yards PTs longest run of the year was 24 yards then they stopped counting since he was in the endzone. As a team we averaged 3.7 yards per carry and PT averaged 4.8 ypc. I think he will be on the team next year and I hope he plays before week 17.

papz · 01-17-2008, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce
Please don't talk to me about how he's a playmaker because of what he did in the preseason. Preseason performances have absolutely no bearing on whether or not a player is going to be any good.

Tell that to Matt Schaub, David Garrard, and Matt Hasselbach.

TheDeuce · 01-17-2008, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Tell that to Matt Schaub, David Garrard, and Matt Hasselbach.

Tell that to Carey Davis (highest rushing average per carry in the preseason), Darius Walker (higher average than PT in the preseason), Robert Meachem and the hundreds of other guys who score a touchdown or play well in the preseason and then never see the field during the regular season. Sure it might help a guy make a team, but when you're lining up against an opponent's third string defense, it's not a true indicator of talent.

SapperSaint · 01-17-2008, 12:50 PM

No preseason doesn't show much, but...BUT, in the cases of Schaub, Garrard and Hasselbach and now PT, it falls into a case where the coaches do the "V8 head smack" and ask "why in the heck haven't we been starting this kid???"

01-15-2008, 01:09 PM	#1
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: McFadden vs Thomas I am against going with an offensive player for the first three rounds. We need STUDS and I mean STUD defensive players. LB's, Dline-man, CB's and FS's. Would I be sick if we didn't pick up D-mac...sure I would. But the needs of the team out wieght the need for another RB (at least for now).

01-15-2008, 02:46 PM	#2
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: McFadden vs Thomas PT will be a good RB. He has shown me more in that one game than Reggie has in two years. I am giving Reggie one more year before I call him the worlds biggest draft bust.

01-15-2008, 08:36 PM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: McFadden vs Thomas Heisman voting doesn't make you an NFL running back. We have a winner of the Heisman trophy and he hasn't figured out the NFL yet. Now I'm not saying McFadden won't be a good RB in the NFL but right now I don't think it is a position we need to look at in the first round.

01-15-2008, 09:34 PM	#4
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: McFadden vs Thomas I'm not sure that you take him, especially with Deuce and Reggie on schedule to be healthy by the start of training camp, but McFadden is definitely a player. He's been a difference maker for years.
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01-16-2008, 12:14 PM	#5
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: McFadden vs Thomas Totally agree with you on the LSU DB's, Guru. I would love to see them picked up.

01-16-2008, 08:02 PM	#6
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: McFadden vs Thomas Originally Posted by SapperSaint Totally agree with you on the LSU DB's, Guru. I would love to see them picked up. I would agree with that too, but I doubt Chevis Jackson is still around in the 4th round. I think he's being projected as a 2nd round guy. And I would agree that maybe Deuce's time is past him, but I disagree that he has been over the hill for the last few seasons. He was a big reason for our success in 2006, and was the MVP of our playoff win against Philadelphia. I know I'm a bit of a Deuce homer, but I still have faith that he's going to come back and be the same guy he was before the knee injury.
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01-16-2008, 10:02 PM	#7
dasaints26 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 167	Re: McFadden vs Thomas Preseason matters if you are trying to get a job on an nfl team and PThomas made the most of the opportunity. He runs the ball with a purpose get positive yards. Sure the numbers dont mean much since he didnt play alot but our longest run of the year was 26 yards PTs longest run of the year was 24 yards then they stopped counting since he was in the endzone. As a team we averaged 3.7 yards per carry and PT averaged 4.8 ypc. I think he will be on the team next year and I hope he plays before week 17.
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01-17-2008, 09:21 AM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	Re: McFadden vs Thomas Originally Posted by TheDeuce Please don't talk to me about how he's a playmaker because of what he did in the preseason. Preseason performances have absolutely no bearing on whether or not a player is going to be any good. Tell that to Matt Schaub, David Garrard, and Matt Hasselbach.

01-17-2008, 12:40 PM	#9
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: McFadden vs Thomas Originally Posted by papz Tell that to Matt Schaub, David Garrard, and Matt Hasselbach. Tell that to Carey Davis (highest rushing average per carry in the preseason), Darius Walker (higher average than PT in the preseason), Robert Meachem and the hundreds of other guys who score a touchdown or play well in the preseason and then never see the field during the regular season. Sure it might help a guy make a team, but when you're lining up against an opponent's third string defense, it's not a true indicator of talent.
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01-17-2008, 12:50 PM	#10
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: McFadden vs Thomas No preseason doesn't show much, but...BUT, in the cases of Schaub, Garrard and Hasselbach and now PT, it falls into a case where the coaches do the "V8 head smack" and ask "why in the heck haven't we been starting this kid???"