Pappy, you are truly sad. You were the one comparing the hiring of Ogeron to that of Tomlin. I PROVED to you that they are about as opposite as apples and oranges. So I guess Tomlin had future, budding all pro's at CINCY and therefore his coaching was not as good as say, oh yeah, Ogeron who supposedly could recruit talent as good as anyone in the land! See what I did there, I made you look like your arguement is much like your head. Full of holes. You sit here and compare Tomlin getting a pro job to that of Ogeron. I bring you FACTS that Tomlin moved up to the pro's after an outstanding last season in college. I also bring up Ogeron's PATHETIC record at Ole Miss, yet you dismiss it and say, oh well, who cares what he did at Ole Miss. Forget he only won THREE games against quality SEC opponents. He should be hired in the big leagues by a team who was pathetic on defense the year before.

Here you go big shot, how many college coaches who were fired at the college level go on the be HEAD coaches in the NFL? Good luck finding that list.

Yeah, man, I'm pretty weak.

On the Gibbs subject, seem to remember him having some pretty good talent at Dallas, yet....... Also had some pretty good talent at Oklahoma when he was there and ............