McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

you of course are at 10..........
you're fielding one, maybe 2 offers to drop down.......
one of them is the cowboys...........
time is running out, and only a minute left to go....
what do you do?
you are the gm, what do you want?

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

you take him. then talk trade. That forces them to up the bid. First at 22, pick 59, and a second in 2009.

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

They are WAY down the first round line I would ask for both first rounders and if they say NO I would take McFadden and walk off with the steal of the draft if they say YES I would press deal and get the best available CB and then Best Available DT or vice versa.

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

Thats crazy talk if he is there at 10.

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

yyyeesssss eup.........................
it is crazy........................
you're the gm, what do you do...........wwwwhhhhhooooooooo........

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

you take mcfadden and listen to everybody at b and g hammer you cause you didnt take defense LOL.......then he has a A Peterson type year and you then are a hero!!!!!!

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

well it depends totally on who else is available and where mcfadden is on our draft board... that and what is the offer... if they offer both firsts.. i dont think that is enough for a player of mcfaddens ability.. id say both firsts n a 3rd.. id go for that from the cowbums...

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

we tell Dallas how bad do you want mcfadden we want your #22, #28 and Bradie James

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

I'd pick McFadden, cut him up into four pieces, trade one piece to the Broncos for Champ Bailey, one piece to the Colts for Bob Sanders, one piece to the Texans for DeMeco Ryans, and the final piece to the Bears for Tommie Harris.

Seriously, though. I would take him up in a heartbeat and see what I could get for Reggie or Deuce. I have a feeling this guy is going to be a beast!

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

except the cap hit we would take for trading either one of these guys would be roughly 15-20 million bucks... dont see that happening anytime soon..

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

Draft Alex Molden and call it a day

Re: McFarland anyone?
 

He had a long time to recover, I say bring him in and see what he has left in the tank. I would not bad mouth this move.

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

Can he sack a QB?

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

Are you kidding? This would put to rest one of the biggest questions of the offseason. Will Deuce be ready?

You take him in a second and keep him. You cut Deuce in a flash, sorry Deuce just business. Our offense would be stupid scary with Bush and McFadden. Payton would crap on himself if that happened and couldn't resist keeping him.

I'd ponder a trade with Dallas, but I wouldn't do it. Still, I think Dallas will trade up for McFadden if he falls to 6.

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

I think he's be able to tackle Brees unabaited, but that's not what the Saints will be paying him for, so what's your point?

McFadden Anyone?
 

Let's face it, Deuce isn't going to be the same at his age coming back from 2 knee surgeries. At best he will be ready for mid season. So i predict our offense will be mediocre instead of dominating.

How much would you be willing to trade up? Consider this....
McFadden would make us the most feared offensive team in the league. Anybody that thinks a revamped defense is going to carry this team to the Superbowl is nuts. Offense is what drives the New Orleans Saints. By drafting McFadden we are assured of having one of the best offenses in the league if not the best. We would be stupid scary on one side of the field. Brees, Bush, Colston... would instantly be better by drafting McFadden. We could dictate to the defense again.

We have already upgrade our defense and I think we will continue to upgrade it in the draft. But you don't need a great defense... consider:

The Saints play a defense that is feast or famine. They try to make you have a bunch of 3 and outs or score quick with tight man to man coverage. This results in the Saints offense being on the field most of the time. This eventually wears a defense down in the 4th quarter or we simply over run teams who's offense can't score 20 points against our defense. Unfortunally, the weather is great equalizer as we found out in Chicago. Again, McFadden may be the key here to because without being able to run the football consistantly, you don't win in Chicago, Green Bay or New York.

I'm not suggesting that we mortgage the farm but if he falls to us or if we have to move up 1 to 2 spots to get him, it may pay the GREATEST DIVIDENDS by having the most dominate offense in the NFC again.

So the real question becomes... Would you like to have the best offense in the NFC or the number 12 defense in the league?

Re: McFadden Anyone?
 

similiar type back as bush.we will need power back,which can be had in 2nd round

Re: McFadden at 10?
 

Do dreams come true?? I guess we will see in the draft.

Re: McFadden Anyone?
 

To be honest, I'd rather have a number 12 ranked D. PT had over 200 yds of total offense and we lost because we couldn't stop Kyle Orton. The 0-8 Rams beat us because we couldn't stop the 3rd and 17s and the offense couldn't get on the field. We are not that bad at RB. I like McFadden as much as the next guy, but the draft is deep with good rbs that can play, so if he falls then I would be willing to trade down, definately.

Re: McFadden at 10?
 

I don't see the need to invest more money into a position where we already have so much talent at. Trade up? No way no how. I think by re-signing Stecker almost insures we won't select a running back. And if for some strange reason we do decide to take a back, Mendenhall and Stewart could possibly be just as good as D-Mac. It doesn't make any sense to trade up unless there's a defensive player or offensive tackle that we highly covet.

Re: McFadden Anyone?
 

Absolutely agree. This team should be focused on the front 7 and pass rush. McCray was a good signing for this purpose, as I would guess he'll be used mostly on third and long situations with Grant possibly sliding over to DT, plus bringing in Vilma allows more blitzes from the OLB's as Vilma can cover a ton of ground when healthy.

Improve the pass rush and those 3rd and long completions disappear, plus nothing masks a weak secondary better than a QB under consistent pressure, I mean look at the Giants, their secondary sucks and they held the Pats to 14 points because their line was in Brady's face all game long.

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

have to agree with Boogro...you have to take an offer and trade down. We still need 3 or 4 more pieces to fix our defense and if we could acquire more picks to do it, then do it. Also, if McFadden is still on the board, it means that a lot of the defensive guys we are targeting have already been picked. Move down, get a couple extra picks and we can still draft a Cb, DT, and LB and maybe a Safety too. There is no way you move up. Just think of how good our offense can be if our defense is good enough to hold people to a couple 3 and outs....and who knows what will happen if we ever get a defense that learns how to take the ball away from the other team.

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

I think you have to try and trade down at 10, and really there's no way Dallas won't trade up to 10 for McFadden but I honestly don't think he'll get by the Pats if he's there at 7. Trading down there would be a classic Belichick move, and don't think he wouldn't love the irony in getting 2 firsts back for that pick.

Still in the event that McFadden is there at 10 and Dallas will swap their 2 firsts for him, the Saints can probably grab Brandon Flowers and Dan Connor in the first and help two major holes then grab Pat Sims at 40 to help DT and really call it an off season at that point.

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

trading down and acquiring picks means the possiblilities are endless. The saints would be able to land a young CB, a young DT, and either a LB or TE or lineman to help add youth and then everyone is happy. Moving down makes the most sense for the long term growth of the team.

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

So I guess the answer is no. But McFadden would sell season tickets. LOL

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

Bush and Brees sell enough tickets, I have the 2006 season ticket holder "season sellout" banner to prove it.

Titles sell the most tickets, and for that we need defense.

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

Trade him to Jerry Jones and the Cowgirls for the two #1s and a# 4 Pick Branden Albert future pro bowl OG or Quentin Groves DE, and D. Connor OLB , 2ND rd pick would be Pat Sims DT, 3rd rd either Matt Forte or Ray Rice,with Big D's 4th rd pick Charles Godfrey Cb ,5th rd Quentin Demps SS, 6th rd Colt Brennan QB, 7th rd Jacob Hester FB or Jack Ikewuonu CB

Re: ok, here's the scenerio, mcfadden drops to 10......
 

The point is that he doesn't play defense and the Saints still need to improve their defense.

The only way I take McFadden is if we can trade him for some defensive talent.

The only top offensive player worth considering, Randy Moss, is off the table. No reason to seriously look at anyone else.

SFIAH

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

I wouldn't mind McFadden first round.. I would make Bush a permanent slot receiver then.. I know the defense needs to be fixed but it's just one pick.. you still got 6 or so other picks to evaluate talent.. with that said.. I think Jonathan Stewart would be a nice fit to replace Duece in the future..

but anyways I'm just really high on the Cromartie dude.. I have a reeally good feeling about him being an absolute playmaker..

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

Bottom line is we need Rivers, defense wins chapionships and we aren't gonna win anything until we fix our defense.

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

I still want to see how Rivers does in his pro day.. He is good, but he is benefiting from a highly weak linebacking group coming out of college.. and the fact he didn't run at the combine makes me a little cautious.. we shall see what happens.. there's so much time until the draft it seems like an eternity..

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

AT the box office window???

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

This multi talented guy is a must, huh?

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

First...you draft Darren McFadden. The kids a stud & can run between the tackles (unlike a certain RB that shall not be named). Then....you get on the phone with Jerry Jones & trade Reggie Bush for DeMarcus Ware. Now....you call the Falcons & trade Will Smith for DeAngelo Hall. Meanwhile....you draft Dre Moore (DT-Maryland) with your second rounder & Dajuan Morgan (S-N.C. State) in the third. Finally...you kick back in your suite & light up a Cohiba while you watch the Saints march to the Super Bowl.

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

I was looking back to Reggie Bush's highlights in high school, college, and his rookie NFL season.. and he is most dangerous in the slot or in motion.. I think the Saints need to go back to utilizing Bush the best way possible and he can have success again. Everyone is quick to rip him because he didn't do much in his 2nd season.. The entire team blew tho.. AND he did produce his rookie season.. Leading the team along with Colston in receptions.. and he had 4 tds against the niners.. and he scored touchdowns in both playoff games.. Isn't it best to produce in the post-season?? I for one look for a stellar 3rd year for Bush. I think he'll be a probowler this season.

Re: McFadden at 10? Trade up?
 

look after his combine, by some act of god, Mcfadden falls to the ten spot the saints are going to draft him. They preach the philosophy of BPA, and he fits the bill. The saints would become the new "Greatest show on turf" with Brees, Bush, Colston, and Mcfadden it would look like an arena game. Points would be put up, and one could only hope our offense could scare the opposing team into submission. The reality would be a middle of the road d would be sufficient. That being said, I see Hell freezing over before Mcfadden falls to ten.