Re: RUMOR: Saints Targeting Illinois RB Rashard Mendenh
 

wow..

I don't know what is this "football" you speak of, but it certainly cannot be NFL football, and you certainly didn't watch the Saints defense play.

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News flash, our defense is TERRIBLE, 30th ranked passing D, well I guess they wasnt last, so lets draft a RB and keep five of them. No thanks we need D.If you draft a RB that is the position you can find a gem the most in the late rounds.

Re: RUMOR: Saints Targeting Illinois RB Rashard Mendenh
 

give them a little bit of credit, they played amazing for what they had (overweight Dlinemen, system cornerback, mediocre LBs etc.)

we already have decent CBs ready to start this season, they'll get even better if MM comes back close to full strength for our playoffs push. LBs are pretty much set once we draft a LB in the first 3 rounds. our Dlinemen hopefully will get in shape, if they're ineffective we have mccray to come in.

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If we dont get some DT's that can take on some lineman we might as well have Simoneau back there, cause Vilma will only be great if they can keep the O-lineman off of Him....We need to improve at DT and the secondary first and then worry about O.

Re: RUMOR: Saints Targeting Illinois RB Rashard Mendenh
 

Forte is no Mendenhall.. but I profer jONATHAN stewart 2nd round.. as a thunder to reggie's lightening..

You all think its crazy to draft a rb.. but what about when ditka traded away every single pick for ricky williams.. and then 2 years later drafted Deuce in the first round..

Re: RUMOR: Saints Targeting Illinois RB Rashard Mendenh
 

haslett drafted deuce.. not ditka

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I wouldn't be too upset with the pick because I do think Mendenhall will be an excellent RB. I think it will upset alot of fans when we have to get rid of Deuce as a result of the pick, because he is definitely a fan favorite. I am one of the people that thinks Deuce may be done.

My only criticism of this pick is that RB is a deep position in the draft, which could easily be addressed in later rounds. But then again so is CB and LB. There is no way we passup either of the two DTs but if neither is available at 10 we could definitely go this route. Just look on the bright side. At least we cant have a more unproductive first round draft pick than last year.

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I know Haslett drafed Deuce.. That has nothing to do with the saints organization as a whole.. Regardless of coach the saints drafted 2 rbs in the first round within 3 years.. they took deuce while they still had ricky..

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yes and up to that point, ricky really hadnt performed up to his ability and a whole new regime was at the helm of the franchise.. haz was the coach, randy mueller was our new gm and they were making the choices based on best player available.. not on need.. which we should do now, even if that player is on offense

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i agree! but i just think DRC is the most freakish player in the draft.. regardless of need.. i want him.. and i don't think 10th is a reach.. but hey thats just me. we shall see how it all unfolds.. the draft is still an eternity away..

Re: RUMOR: Saints Targeting Illinois RB Rashard Mendenh
 

i wouldnt mind him but rookie corners are regularly picked on by vet wrs and itll we be no different if we take a corner

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i am always against drafting corners.. i don't even want any other corner.. if we don't get drc.. then i def want rivers, and dt's, and even a rb or wr..
do you think the saints will draft a fs?

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If we draft a RB in the first, I will flip my lid!!!!! This is one of the deepest drafts at RB in years. There will be upper tier RB's in the 2nd round. I'm not for drafting a CB in this year's class either. Nobody at CB this year seems to jump out & say "starter" material. In a perfect world, Dorsey or Ellis will slide to us at 10. But let's face it....this isn't a perfect world & that scenario is very unlikely. If Clady is there....take him. He's an instant upgrade at OT. I would also like Rivers if the others I named are gone. No way....I repeat....NO WAY should we draft a RB in the 1st round!!!!!!!

Re: RUMOR: Saints Targeting Illinois RB Rashard Mendenh
 

yeah, its a deep RB class, but Mendenhall is the best RB in the draft besides McFadden. he would vastly improve this offense.

I still don't want any more depth at RB tho, we have Pierre Thomas.

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While I really like Mendenhall, no way should we spend 1st round money on a RB....again. If we really feel like we need a "between the tackles" runner to compliment Reggie Bush, take Ray Rice in the 3rd!!! "Ray, Ray" is a great between the tackles runner, sheds tackles, & runs with lots & lots of heart & determination. I have yet to see a defense shut this guy down & everyone put eight in the box on him. Anyway....This class is way too deep at RB to draft Mendenhall at #10.

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..........and yes, we have Pierre Thomas.

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I'm in the "no rb for rd 1 please" group. I won't; however, go postal if this scenario happens. As mentioned by others I just think its a very deep RB class and we have a decent RBBC thing going on. Dorsey, Ellis, or Rivers, and if none of them are there I think we look at possible options for dropping down. Just my two cents.

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Mendenhall would be in the same predicament as Reggie with that #5.. he could just join the RB order..
#23 PT #24 Mendenhall #25 Bush #26 Mcallister #27 Stecker
haha he could take 24 following his old Illinois running mate..

but nah seriously pass on Mendenhall please. i'd rather jONAthan stewart second round if he fell there and if we go rb.. he fits our thunder lightening style much better as a future replacement for mcallister..

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Whats crazy is Pierre is the same size (5'11) and only 14 pounds lighter than Mendenhall.. Pierre also has much more impressive stats at Illinois..

Did you know, PT is the first Saints player to gain over 100 yards both rushing and receiving in the same game..

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Re: RUMOR: Saints Targeting Illinois RB Rashard Mendenh
 

If Deuce is smart, he will be retiring on April 15. That means that our #1 priority will be replacing him.

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I still like Pierre Thomas, he need to get more touches.

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I think Deuce's contract will be restructured by April 15. If we look to the draft, Matt Forte would be the guy I would think they would look at.

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I got bashed for mentioning Deuce is not the same Running Back; and now what?!?

Man, he sure would make a great tight end at this stage of his career, if he still wanted to play ball; devastating blocker and he'd be All-World starting eight yard downfield running among those DB's...Sha-Wee!

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I guess I may be the only one on this board that still has faith in Deuce. I still believe he can come back and be a great back. I would rather keep Deuce and Reggie in the backfield and use PT as #3 or even put him in the same backfield as Deuce sometimes, maybe spell Reggie too.

I guess I'm too loyal to McAllsiter.

Re: RUMOR: Saints Targeting Illinois RB Rashard Mendenh
 

No, you're not the only one. I still have faith in him too. He'll be here next season, right after he restructures.

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Anyone remember who Mendenhall couldn't beat out at Illinois?

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Errr... Pierre Thomas... Do I win anything?

What a difference a year makes in college.

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I've been a keith rivers backer since i joined this forum but I have a very strange feeling that mendenhall is the pick...this is assuming of course that dorsey and ellis are gone...i just think coach payton has a woody for the kid and he gets who he wants...i'll let last years pick of meachem stand as my evidence when everyone felt def was the 1st priority also...i guess we'll see

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we will get a better idea what the saints might do on april 15th when deuces roster bonus comes back into play.. if the keep him.. then we probably will go D, if they let him go then there is a good chance that we will get a RB

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EXACTLY!!

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Well lets say we keep Deuce and he get hurt. Then Deuce gets hurt. We're going to need a big running game with Brunell. I just think that we need a player that can start and make a difference. Face it, the Saints win with offense and it puts butts in the seats. Then there is the Payton factor. Will he be able to resist? Yes we need defense more, but RB IS ONE POSITION that can not be IGNORED no matter how strong you think we are. Hum? What will Payton do. Will he peeve this board????

When I started this thread, I didn't know it would start a mini riot. LOL

Re: RUMOR: Saints Targeting Illinois RB Rashard Mendenh
 

all in all I think we'll end up drafting Keith Rivers and drafing a RB in the 3rd or 4th round, because we don't need a starting calibre RB, but we do need depth.

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If we spend our #1 on any offensive player without trading down and getting a 2 for 1, I'll be completely pissed. That pick must produce an impact defensive starter at some level of the defense. Be it Rivers, or one of the DB, or a DT, we need an impact player.

We need another high draft pick at RB like I need another hole in my head. We played more than 1/2 the season without Deuce. Reggie isn't a feature back and PT23 is the truth. When your #4 back racks up 200+ total yards against a decent defense, you don't need any more running backs.

You have 4 backs now: Deuce and Reggie are the starters and Stecker and PT23 are the backups. Karney opens up holes and catches the occasional ball.

That's all we need at running back. Thanks for playing.

SFIAH

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Good post SFIAH, I completely agree. We already have so many backs under contract that, including two making first round money, that signing another one to #10 overall money just doesn't make sense. Financially it doesn't make sense, and from a football standpoint, it doesn't make sense IMO either. We need help on defense, period.

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Excellent point-
another factor is that we have two good backups in Stecker and PT that we would literally have to give away. With 5 tailbacks on the roster, no team would give a 7th for either one.

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Lets not forget what wins championship we cant keep ignoring the defense. If we had a defense 2 years ago we would've beat the Bears and gone to the superbowl. Impoving an already good offense is not going to take us the the next step we NEED to get this defense on the right track.

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Rashard Mendenh would be connected to Duce not Bush, PT or Stecker. Bush is in his own little world. PT and Stecker are battling for the #3. Nothing wrong with carrying 5 RB

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Same as last year.
Brunell?! Where in the hell did Brunell come from? If Brees gets hurt, the season is lost. Brees is the one irreplaceable player on the Saints team. It makes no sense making Round 1 decisions based on Brees getting hurt.
I agree. Just not a running back. It's the same argument I keep seeing about WR and TE. We have 6 WR that have started for us. 3 TE that have done the same. The 4th back on our team absolutely shredded the Bears last December.

We don't need a starter. We need a back that can get tough yards in clutch situations. Now Reggie isn't that back. But PT23 is the backup that can do that.

We need starters on defense. We have the absolute worst DB in the league as our starting CB. We have a limited pass rush. We need a defender that can line up and play on opening day.

Any other #1 pick other than a defensive starter is a waste.

Actually if you look at last season, the Saints lost with offense. That's exactly why we need to continue to shore up the defense
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Then there is the Payton factor. Will he be able to resist? Yes we need defense more, but RB IS ONE POSITION that can not be IGNORED no matter how strong you think we are. Hum? What will Payton do. Will he peeve this board????
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He may. I'll be pissed. He's already pulled that stunt last year. But that's when they thought that with David they had solved the defensive backfield problem. They should well know that David is a waste of space back there and that they need to continue to shore up the defense.

What would you expect? The Saints offense is predicated on slinging the ball all over the field, not pounding the rock. You have 4 backs that can tote the rock. 3 of them were injured badly enough not to be able to play by the end of the season last year. You can't pick based on that happening again.

SFIAH

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Dear SaintFanInHell....

I won't be unhappy if the Saints pick a CB, LB or DT. It's just that our coach will be tempted to pick RB so much that it's worth a thread about it. I've stated the reasons why I think it make since. RB did well even in the poll for the Saints pick meaning that many here believe it would be a good pick.

Besides QB, RB is the one position that changes everything because he'll touch the ball 20-30 times a game. Do we really need another Duece type of back to make Reggie and the rest of the offense more effective? Will it help protect Brees and help him to get rid of the ball sooner?

It doesn't matter what I think, it only matters what my avatar thinks.

Zie Hi