Ed Orgeron: 2008 Draft X-Factor for Saints?
 

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i have to agree. He knows the players in the draft and for the next few years to come.

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I have to admit Orgeron is incredible.. In 2004 we had the state's BEST football player on my high school team.. His name was Gary Pack and he started as a freshman along with Patrick Willis.. He was recruited by florida state, miami, fl, texas.. etc you name it.. His dream was to play for Florida State all his high school career and BOBBY BOWDEN came personally all the way to our high school in Mississippi.. yet somehow Orgeron swung him to go to Ole Miss in Orgeron's first year recruiting for the 2005 season.... I have no idea how he did it.. too bad my friend couldn't get his head on straight and ended up quitting the team.. He is an absolute BEAST.

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...here, here! It appears that good things ahead!

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Thanks for sharing this info, Beau-C.

I wouldn't be surprised if Orgeron is the talk of the town come Monday (following the draft).

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I am really excited to see him coach the d-line. I honestly got a great feeling about the defense this year as opposed to last season.

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I'm hoping there's just an overall better defense with the additions and the new coaching. We're finally trying to build a defense again.

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B-C,

Hard to go in any direction other than UP after 2007! Yes, you have a great reason to be optimistic about our chances.

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Halo,

With Drew Brees directing the offense, Steve Gleason back to lead special teams, if Dan Morgan & Jonathan Vilma stay healthy ...the Saints will be downright S-C-A-R-Y!!!

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Been down this road... it's like talking to a brick wall. No point in having the same conversation over for the gazillionth time. Hopefully our defensive line has a good season and maybe then you'll give it a rest.

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Whatchutalkinboutwillis?

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Ed Orgeron, regarded as one of college football’s premier defensive line coaches and recruiters, is in his third season as head coach of the Ole Miss Rebels, having been named the 35th head football coach in the history of The University of Mississippi on December 16, 2004.

Orgeron, who took control of the Ole Miss football program after serving the previous seven seasons as defensive line coach at the University of Southern California, played a key role in Pete Carroll’s Trojans winning national championships in 2003 and 2004. He joined the USC staff in January of 1998, took on the added responsibility of recruiting coordinator for the Trojans in 2001, and was then named assistant head coach in 2003.

USC’s 2002, 2003 and 2004 recruiting classes were ranked among the nation’s Top 5, with the 2003 and 2004 groups listed by many as No. 1, and Orgeron was named the 2004 National Recruiter of the Year by The Sporting News and Rivals.com.

Following a disappointing 3-8 finish in 2005, Orgeron’s talent as a recruiter drew national attention when Ole Miss’ 2006 signing class ranked ninth in the final national rankings. According to SuperPrep, it was the “best Ole Miss class that’s been put together since football recruiting analysis has been a media subject matter. Call it the Orgeron Factor – as in Ed Orgeron.”

The ranking shouldn’t have been a surprise, especially since Orgeron’s first Ole Miss recruiting class in 2005 resulted in a No. 29 final ranking, an accomplishment realized with only six weeks remaining to haul in his initial Rebel class. What made that No. 29 spot stand out was the fact that it was the highest Ole Miss finish ever in SuperPrep’s ranking until the most recent success. In the previous 10 years before Orgeron, the Rebels ranged from 31 to 46 on six occasions and were unranked four times.

Orgeron's second Ole Miss team finished 4-8 in 2006, but showed improvement over his first team as the Rebels came close to finishing 8-4, losing overtime games at Alabama and LSU, while dropping a five-point decision to Georgia and suffering a six-point loss to Auburn. He then turned his attention to recruiting and promptly landed another nationally ranked class.

In 2003, Orgeron guided USC’s highly regarded “Wild Bunch II” defensive line (ends Kenechi Udeze, Omar Nazel and Frostee Rucker and tackles Shaun Cody and Mike Patterson) as the Trojans led the nation in rushing defense. Udeze was a consensus All-America first teamer and an NFL first round pick, while Udeze, Cody and Patterson all earned All-Pac-10 first team honors (the most defensive line first teamers from any league school since Washington State also had three in 1994). In 1998, Trojan defensive tackle Ennis Davis was named to the All-Pac-10 first team.

During his seven years at USC, the Trojans played in the 1998 Sun Bowl, 2001 Las Vegas Bowl, 2003 Orange Bowl, 2004 Rose Bowl, and 2005 Orange Bowl.

Orgeron, 46, has 22 years of coaching experience. Prior to joining the USC staff, he was defensive line coach at Syracuse for three seasons (1995-97), and the Orange played in a bowl game each year (1996 Gator, 1996 Liberty and 1997 Fiesta). He came to Syracuse from Nicholls State, where he was the linebackers coach in 1994.

He was also the defensive line coach at Miami for four seasons (1989-92), where he coached eight All-Americans, including NFL first rounders Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland and Warren Sapp. In 1988, he was a graduate assistant at Miami, working with the defensive line. During his tenure at Miami, the Hurricanes won the national championship twice (1989 and 1991), finished second in the Associated Press poll once (1988) and third twice (1990 and 1992), while appearing in five New Year’s Day bowls (1989 Orange, 1990 Sugar, 1991 Cotton, 1992 Orange, 1993 Sugar).

Orgeron got his start in coaching as a graduate assistant at Northwestern (La.) State, his alma mater, in 1984 and was also a graduate assistant at McNeese State in 1985, working with the defensive line at both schools. He then served as an assistant strength coach at Arkansas for two years (1986-87) as the Razorbacks participated in the 1987 Orange Bowl and 1987 Liberty Bowl. Orgeron worked in private business in 1993.

After compiling an outstanding prep career in football, basketball and track at South Lafourche High School in Galliano, La., Orgeron went on to become a four-year starting defensive lineman at Northwestern (La.) State, captaining the Demons as a senior. He received his Bachelor’s Degree in Liberal Arts from Northwestern State in 1984. Orgeron was recently named to Northwestern State’s Top 100 Players in 100 Years of Demon Football.

Orgeron, who was born on July 27, 1961, and his wife, Kelly, have three sons, Tyler, 15, and 9-year-old twins Parker and Cody.

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I know some folks think Orgeron is a bad hire because of the record he had at Ole Miss, but honestly, that is probably one of the most challenging schools in college football. I think this is going to turn out to be a good addition for the Saints.

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I have recently returned to B&G after an extended hiatus.
Been Lurking.

I must Say:

Missle You are Off the Chain.

Interesting Bro'.

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You're right. Coach O has been sucessful at one thing in his entire life: scouting, signing and coaching defensive lines. I see nothing from his track record that Euph posted that would lead me to belive he can handle coaching a NFL D-line. I mean how many all american DLinemen did he not coach? A bunch.

The Saints made a mistake when they signed him to come in and make all of our draft picks, negotiate contracts, design and call both the offense and defense, oversee stregth training and set ticket prices. As you can tell by his failures in his lone head coaching endeavor at Ole Miss, he is clearly not quailfied to be the Saints defensive line coach.

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Forum search... Orgeron. The arguments have been made... leave him be. He's not going to change his point of view no matter how much sense is made.

Orgeron sucks... we're doomed.

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check out all the negativity in here..

Orgeron is a GREAT hire. i for one don't see how it can get any worse. the defense is going to be vastly improved. i just hope you all negative talkers come back in here during the season to say you were wrong.

how can you say someone is a bad hire when the season hasn't even started... lets just see what happens.

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I heard a rumor somewhere that Orgeron cures cancer too.

Anyone can make up stories. Whether or not he's a good or bad hire, we'll find out at the end of the year.

And missile, how do you know we didn't do our homework before we hired him? It's not like people go around hiring bums off the street. There is an application/interview process... yea... I guess you forgot about that. Speculation at it's best.

The negativity surrounding this subject is starting to irk the heck out of me. *hint* We'll just agree to disagree... let's move on.

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Well the guy must interview as good as he recruits.

Hopefully he'll be better than Venturi.

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I like to read opinions from all here.

If I agree. It's cool.

If I don't. It's cool.

When it comes at me like this: airwebhfiywbfywagfywgbfiywbfiywebfwyubgfwuybiwebwiyebfwbfyewipfbw8yefbwuyebfuwyebfjvovvvjvuhvndpokjqepofjwpefjwpjfpwjfpwejfpwjfpwjfpw8ywebvfuwebfiwebfiwaebfipwyhebfipwhebfiwpebfiwpbfipebfihebfuebvuybf uyrgfw7EQp9iwdqOBiquwwIYFBW8efgwFGW8efw8EFwywEFW8EFGBWefwq8FBQEF8gwYVwff0YVWWYF0VWQYEFGq0w8evqyfgQF7Gqyev8EFVefQ8YFBqw8efbQYEFB8QFq0yeby0fv8qefb8WEFGHW7FGHw807fgWEW9F7H97f

With no breaks.

It makes it difficult to process.

I
Tune
OUT.

Just an observation.

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Get off your high horse.

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B-C: Yes, there is negativity.

Glad to hear your remarks, but the pessimism of other posters doesn't bother me. The have a right to be sceptical (based on the false hopes we, as Saints' fans have endured over the years).

Coach-O is a great pickup, and if you read the article ...he was commended for the QUALITY of prospects he was able to bring to his university (USC and Ole Miss). It's a matter of record; can't deny it.

Therefore, I'm looking forward to what he may be able to add to the equation when the Saints evaluate the class of '08.

Geaux Boys!

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Do you assume there is no recruiting in the NFL? What was this FA signing period? What about the posts crying about no top-tier talent? No matter what you offer these players they have a choice to play where ever they want. Maybe it was his knowledge of the position and ability to coach it combined with his sucess at recruiting that got him the job. Maybe next offseason they will hand him a list of FA players and tell him go get us some players.
With all the great posts on this topic is there any other positional coaches we can discuss at length. Has any of them had any parking tickets or overdue library books? I for one am FIRED UP to hear we may have a coach with a little excitement coming to the team hopefully it will bring some accountability as well.
Just curious but do positional coaches usually get any credit or blame for team success? After a good year do you often hear "Average team but with a stud like that as a WR coach they made it to the SuperBowl" or how bout "Top to bottom best team in the NFL but with that DL coach they never had a shot to win a game"

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Sounds like he'll be a good fit if not for the football team; then the city of New Orleans.

Give the guy a chance it can't be any worse than it is now.

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I feel like any negativity surrounding the guy is simply because he came from Ole Miss and while he was there pissed off a lot of LSU fans (like many posters on this board).

Now I honestly don't know enough about Orgeron to know whether or not he's a good hire, but I don know that he has extensive knowledge with defensive linemen, and that bodes well, IMO. He's also a Louisiana guy which I like, so for me, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that it seems to be a good hire. Here's a little info from Wikipedia:

Orgeron returned to the college ranks in 1994 at Nicholls State University before moving to Syracuse University in 1995,[1] where he met his wife Kelly in 1996.[2]

Before being hired by Ole Miss, he was the defensive line coach and assistant head coach for the University of Southern California (USC) where played a key role in Pete Carroll's Trojans winning the co-national championship in 2003 and the outright national championship in 2004. He joined the USC staff in January of 1998, took on the added responsibility of recruiting coordinator for the Trojans in 2001, and was then named assistant head coach in 2003.

In previous years, Orgeron was an assistant at the University of Miami, where he coached eight All-Americans, including NFL first rounders Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland and Warren Sapp. During his tenure at Miami, the Hurricanes won the national championship twice (1989 and 1991).

Orgeron was the National Recruiter of the Year in 2004, which prompted the University of Mississippi to hire him after the school's firing of David Cutcliffe.

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Who knows maybe Coach O will give the FO the extra push to go after a USC player in Big Sed Ellis?(Even if they have to move up a couple o spots)