Pierre = Real Deal?
 

If (God forbid) we were forced to turn to Pierre Thomas for some serious playing time, how do you guys think he would respond? I know we haven't seen that much of him but some people are already saying that he is the real deal. From what I've seen of him I know of two things can not be disputed, the guys has a ton of heart and he runs like he stole something. Thoughts?

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"God forbid"?? I think you can EXPECT to see more PT especially as Deuce heals.

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I don't think we will be disappointed by Pierre. I think in Pierre you have a good combination of both Duece's hardnose running and Bush's speed and elusiveness.

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I agree that Pierre can be a legitimate running back. When Deuce went down last season, Pierre should have been the one to replace him. I tink the Chicago game at the end of the season proved that, when he rushed for 105 and caught for 121. Now I know that a player cannot be judged on one game, but thats better yardage bumbers than I ever remember Reggie or Stecker putting up. If a guy can produce like that why was he not given more of a chance earlier in the season. I feel like he can run for power, where Reggie cannot. I am not knocking Reggie I just think that he is a RB that needs to be used in the right situations. He needs a power compliment like he had at USC with Lendale White. I'm not completely sold on Pierre but I have liked what I've seen so far. I say give him a shot. I feel like he could end up being like Priest Holmes, an undrafted small running back, who is quick enough to dominate.

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He's the real deal. You don't cut a 4th round pick to make room - unless they can play. I have complete confidence in him.

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I would really like to see what PT could do in a full season of work(All 16 games) I think the kid would put up some great numbers. He is a playmaker.

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I think he is the real deal, I think whether Deuce is back or not, PT will get more playing time than in 07, much more actually!

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The same way he has always responded, by making yardage.

I think Pierre has what it takes to be a consistent Pro running back. He has the body, the strength, the skill, and the will.

I'm not saying he will be a 1500yd back, but I am saying he is a 1000yd back. 1000yd backs are pretty rare in Saints history, so we need to hold on to him!

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Can Thomas hold up to NFL weekly pounding?
We all know that Stecker is not the answer. The real question is what happens if Brees goes down. If Brunell come in, we will have to rely more on running to control the game. If that's the case, who do you rather turn to? I really think the Saints are so luck that Brees has held up. So the real question is what happens if we get injuries to important people on offense?

Let's say for a minute that Brees is out.
Brunell is in. Duece doesn't return to form. If Thomas can't hold up, do any of you really want Stecker to be the man? We may be 6-4 when this all happens. This is why Payton should select offense with our first pick and take Mendenhall. Personally, I think Duece's days are over and he should retire.

If Duece retires on April 15th, it changes our draft stagety. Then our most important need is to replace him.

Question: How may games do you want to lose waiting for Duece to return to form? My answer is NONE. That's why you need to get some STRONG INSURANCE/REPLACEMENT!!!

What ever the pick, the man in my avatar will draft Duece's replacement early in the draft.

Hiel Hitler!!

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LoL

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with or without deuce i still wouldn't take RB at 10
Pierre is a large part of the reasoning

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or we could pick up Mendenhall at 10...have PT beat him out in camp...and pay a first round to backup undrafted PT

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I'm betting Pierre is THE REAL DEAL !!!

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I think Pierre Thomas has at least earned the right to the oppurtunity to start. Drafting a RB in the first round of a draft extremely deep at the position would be a mistake in my eyes.

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We'll see just how much faith the coaching staff and FO have in PT by the way we draft. If they are truly sold on him then I don't think we draft a RB at all or at least not on the first day. No one can predict how the draft will go but it's safe to say that we will have some very good RB prospects staring at us in the second round. With the posistion being so deep this year I think teams will pass on some good RBs thinking they can pick up one later. That means that a few RBs will drop and not be drafted as high as they would if the talent pool was more shallow. So having said all that I think that if the staff and FO have any doubts about PT they will jump on one of the solid RBs that should be on the board. If they don't then that means they are confident with their depth.

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Remember one thing about PT coming out of college: 2 OCs in 3 years. His senior year a new OC was hired and the team went in a completely different direction. That hurt his stock.

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Ok so where on the Saints roster do they have a TRUE #1 RB?

Duece? Not anymore. It won't happen. He should retire.
Stecker? No
Bush? Not Really
Thomas? ??????????? We all hope that the kid turns out to be the next Tony Dorsett but it isn't likely. My problem is that I don't think he can hold up the whole season and I'm sure the other Bozos are ready to carry the full load.

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No I do not like the pick myself I think media hype has knocked him into the top 20. Like QB, WR, CB and S the quality is not there this year in round 1. The glamor positions are not that great.

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So if you don't think Thomas can hold up what makes you think whomever our pick would be in the first round would hold up at RB. And if the other teams wait on a RB why wouldn't the Saints. Just think of the money you save if you pick up a projected first rounder in the second or early third round.

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OK ...fess up! How much is Mendeeeeeeee paying out to keep promoting him?


LMAO! :rolleyes:

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One Billion Dollars Mr. SmashMouth... and that also the price to shut me up (outside of banning me lol)

http://www.thechiefsource.com/upload...l_1-747960.jpg

Don't you love a good villan? LOL

Realalistically, I certainly would be happy with LB, DT or CB in round 1. I've just decided to make a case for RB on the forum because few people are. Also, I don't think we need another backup RB although I think the case for a true #1 is certainly valid.

Heil Payton

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Hey foreverfan, have you completely given up all hope of Reggie becoming a #1 feature type back? I agree with you that Deuce is no longer a #1 and Stecker never has been and never will be but I still have hope that Reggie can mature into that role.

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The thing that impressed me the most about him is that he REFUSES to be tackled. How many times did we see the whistle blow the play dead while he was still on feet and fighting for yardage? He doesn't dance either, he makes a cut and heads down field, once he gets into the second level he has the speed and elusiveness to break it.
I like what I've seen so far. Hope we see a lot more of him this year.

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I absoultly love the guy (Thomas that is).
He seems to be the real deal and many of you are willing to put all 2008 in his hands. I certainly think we could get by without drafting a RB this year. That may not even be one, yet is could certainly turn in to one at crunch time. If we go 11-5, and Deuce retires next year, you may be kicking yourself in the but for not drafting a RB high.

From what we've seen, it's not the best use of Reggie.
If that's the case, we may be hanging our whole season on if Deuce can come back or if PT can become the feature back and hold up deep into the playoffs. Reggie's hardly a bust and I think we could get by with him being the feature back, and he's never been known for picking up the blitz. Making sure that Brees has ALL OF THE WEAPONS at his disposal makes a lot of since too. Nobody wants to see Brees and I think the chances are less if Reggie isn't the primary back.

In any case, I'm sure the whole board would agree it doesn't matter what I think.

Heil Payton.

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I hate the thought of going into the season having to rely on Deuce to be the workhorse for the running game. As much as I like Stecker I think his roster spot is where we need to upgrade. The problem is who are yougoing to replace him with? If we learned anything it's that you can't count a draft pick to be an upgrade at any position and are there any vets available who definitely be a major improvement?

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I absolutely hate the thought of drafting a running back in the first round this year.....unless of course McFadden falls to #10. McFadden is far & away the best back in the draft....period! After that....this year's class is entirely too deep at RB to draft one in the 1st round. There are really good RB's that can be had in the 2nd or 3rd round or later. Guys like Rice, K. Smith, Forte, J. Charles, F. Jones, Slaton, etc....Not to mention...we have a good RB in Pierre Thomas, a great tweaner in Reggie Bush, a fill in named Stecker, a Brahma bull named Deuce McAllister (when healthy), & a wrecking ball FB named Mike Karney. Why on earth would you guys want Mendenhall at #10? Didn't Pierre Thomas outshine him in his tenure at Illinois?

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Dear Gandi...

Thomas may be the real deal, but it doesn't make much since to draft another BACKUP running back at this point. It does make since to try to replace Deuce with another feature back.

It also makes since to draft a defensive player or trade down. I'd be happy either way.

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He might not be the real deal, but i hope we get to see him run the ball a lot more to see if he is. I'm pullin for him.

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I understand the scenario we are in with finding a possible replacement for Deuce. However...this RB class is very, very deep. Mendehall has not distanced himself from the rest of the class to me other than his combine speed. Not to mention....was Mendenhall mentioned among the elite college backs before last year? NOOOOO. I would rather a guy who has been consistent & has better value, like say a Rice, Smith, etc... in the 3rd. My personal opinion is Rice. He's done it every year at Rutgers, even when they were stacking 8 in the box against him. Look....the guy reminds me of Emmitt Smith. Okay...I put it out there. Poke your fun, guys. I've compared the kid to the NFL's all time rushing leader. Sorry...I just see the same ability, style, & heart in the kid.

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Pierre should have been drafted. He wasn't because of the way his college career unfolded but, if he gets extended playing time, there will be some teams kicking themselves for not drafting him

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You dummy... you asked for it. LOL

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Just the leading pass rusher? Let's not forget that Emmitt also has a helluva quarterback rating. What number is perfect?

To my knowledge, Emmitt Smith only attempted one pass in his entire career -- which went for a touchdown in Arizona, against the NEW ORLEANS SAINTS. With that in mind, I think it's time we shelved talk about running backs and got busy drafting some defense.

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As a building/remodeling contractor, I have to bid on jobs all the time. It's the hardest part of my job to speculate what a project is going to cost to complete, though my bid formula is simple;
1) Add up all known cost like materials, permits, special tools, etc.
2) Estimate uknown-cost based on experience like labor, time to complete, potential problems, etc.

I apply that same formula here with Pierre with the Saints.
1) What we know; He's not a Fumbalina, he can score, he's not fragile, he can catch, he's quick, he can make people miss, he's strong enough to break tackles and get 1st downs, he has a great attitude, he can make your ground game legit, he can play ST's, and he's young like a new pair of leather boots and he's only gonna get better.
2) Unknown's about Pierre; ... very dang little.

Total = Real Deal

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Why are you trying to confuse us with facts and logic? What's your agenda?
:D