pass on the top dt's?

saintsfan1976 · 03-17-2008, 07:00 AM

"So the question for NFL teams is, do you spend the high draft pick on a top-10 DT like Dorsey or Ellis, or do you try to drop down in the first round and take a player like Florida DE Derrick Harvey (20½ sacks), who weighed in at the combine in the 275-pound range, and build a front like the Giants or Colts? Harvey compares favorably to Tuck, with good size and the frame to add more bulk without sacrificing the initial burst and quickness that has been the key to his pass-rushing success.

In Round 2, a team could pick up a player like Lawrence Jackson, who recorded 30½ sacks at USC, but uses his hands well and has shown an ability to get inside penetration and stack and control the isolated blocker. He has the frame to add bulk, and could be a situational pass rusher inside for a 4-3 team."

"Getting a big run stuffer in the later rounds so your defense can get to passing situations and have your hybrid tackle ready to play may be the way to go."

Agreed. But does the same ring true for our CB needs this year?

Euphoria · 03-17-2008, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

"So the question for NFL teams is, do you spend the high draft pick on a top-10 DT like Dorsey or Ellis, or do you try to drop down in the first round and take a player like Florida DE Derrick Harvey (20½ sacks), who weighed in at the combine in the 275-pound range, and build a front like the Giants or Colts? Harvey compares favorably to Tuck, with good size and the frame to add more bulk without sacrificing the initial burst and quickness that has been the key to his pass-rushing success.

In Round 2, a team could pick up a player like Lawrence Jackson, who recorded 30½ sacks at USC, but uses his hands well and has shown an ability to get inside penetration and stack and control the isolated blocker. He has the frame to add bulk, and could be a situational pass rusher inside for a 4-3 team."

"Getting a big run stuffer in the later rounds so your defense can get to passing situations and have your hybrid tackle ready to play may be the way to go."

Agreed. But does the same ring true for our CB needs this year?

Its about priorities. Getting a pass rush is the single most important thing we have to do this off season. We have a lot of money invested in the CB's and a full roster there. What we have to do is revamp that front 7 and get a pass rush.

What people fail to realize is that you can make your CB's look like all-pro if you get a damn pass rush going and consistant. QB has less time looking for an open WR and WR will get open against anyone if you give them enough time. RUSH RUSH RUSH. Giants have who at CB... NO NAMES but they won a SB because they got to Brady and ate his lunch.

I seriously don't think we can pass on a DT if Ellis or Dorsey is anywheres close to our pick... we go get them. If not then we can trade down. We will also be able to snag some quality players at other positions like WR even.

mikesaintfan · 03-17-2008, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Giants have who at CB... NO NAMES but they won a SB because they got to Brady and ate his lunch.

NO NAMES?????
AARON ROSS and SAM MADISON

I do agree about the rush making them look better.

lsutigerfan · 03-17-2008, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan

NO NAMES?????
AARON ROSS and SAM MADISON

I do agree about the rush making them look better.

And lets not forget the LSU Tigers Corey Webster.

03-17-2008, 07:00 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: pass on the top dt's? "So the question for NFL teams is, do you spend the high draft pick on a top-10 DT like Dorsey or Ellis, or do you try to drop down in the first round and take a player like Florida DE Derrick Harvey (20½ sacks), who weighed in at the combine in the 275-pound range, and build a front like the Giants or Colts? Harvey compares favorably to Tuck, with good size and the frame to add more bulk without sacrificing the initial burst and quickness that has been the key to his pass-rushing success. In Round 2, a team could pick up a player like Lawrence Jackson, who recorded 30½ sacks at USC, but uses his hands well and has shown an ability to get inside penetration and stack and control the isolated blocker. He has the frame to add bulk, and could be a situational pass rusher inside for a 4-3 team." "Getting a big run stuffer in the later rounds so your defense can get to passing situations and have your hybrid tackle ready to play may be the way to go." Agreed. But does the same ring true for our CB needs this year?

03-17-2008, 11:00 AM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: pass on the top dt's? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 "So the question for NFL teams is, do you spend the high draft pick on a top-10 DT like Dorsey or Ellis, or do you try to drop down in the first round and take a player like Florida DE Derrick Harvey (20½ sacks), who weighed in at the combine in the 275-pound range, and build a front like the Giants or Colts? Harvey compares favorably to Tuck, with good size and the frame to add more bulk without sacrificing the initial burst and quickness that has been the key to his pass-rushing success. In Round 2, a team could pick up a player like Lawrence Jackson, who recorded 30½ sacks at USC, but uses his hands well and has shown an ability to get inside penetration and stack and control the isolated blocker. He has the frame to add bulk, and could be a situational pass rusher inside for a 4-3 team." "Getting a big run stuffer in the later rounds so your defense can get to passing situations and have your hybrid tackle ready to play may be the way to go." Agreed. But does the same ring true for our CB needs this year? Its about priorities. Getting a pass rush is the single most important thing we have to do this off season. We have a lot of money invested in the CB's and a full roster there. What we have to do is revamp that front 7 and get a pass rush. What people fail to realize is that you can make your CB's look like all-pro if you get a damn pass rush going and consistant. QB has less time looking for an open WR and WR will get open against anyone if you give them enough time. RUSH RUSH RUSH. Giants have who at CB... NO NAMES but they won a SB because they got to Brady and ate his lunch. I seriously don't think we can pass on a DT if Ellis or Dorsey is anywheres close to our pick... we go get them. If not then we can trade down. We will also be able to snag some quality players at other positions like WR even.
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03-17-2008, 11:39 AM	#3
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: pass on the top dt's? Originally Posted by Euphoria Giants have who at CB... NO NAMES but they won a SB because they got to Brady and ate his lunch. NO NAMES????? AARON ROSS and SAM MADISON I do agree about the rush making them look better.

03-17-2008, 11:50 AM	#4
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: pass on the top dt's? Originally Posted by mikesaintfan NO NAMES????? AARON ROSS and SAM MADISON I do agree about the rush making them look better. And lets not forget the LSU Tigers Corey Webster.