Cromartie?
 

Is Cromartie the most overated player in the draft or is it just me? Any player that jumps that far in such a small amount of time is just there because of his post-season numbers, not unlike a player named Mike Mamula. He came out of nowhere and got drafted high and never did anything. Lets take a player that can win at a high level and stop getting small school players.

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LOL talk about it. Earlier a 3rd or 4th round sleeper to top 20 pick. Scares me. what was he doing all year long?

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I lived through the Mamula experiment in Philly and I can safely say that they drafted him almost purley on his athleticism displayed at the NFL Combines thinking that would translate into a freakish DE like LT. The only impact he ended up having is a new stat for the NFL called "Hurries", referring to putting pressure on the QB without actually recording a sack. Eagle fans still affectionately refer to them as "Mamulas".

But your point is well taken Husker. This franchise has developed a habit of searching outside of the box looking for that lightning in a bottle player (a la Colston) and it doesn't really seem to pay off from a impact standpoint, although payroll wise, its prudent. Sometimes when you want Filet Mignon, you have to pay the top dollar to get it. Try to get it for hamburger prices and you're likely to end up severely disappointed.

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It could be considered a very risky move to pick him up in the first 20 picks. I really like the kid, but I have to agree with the WTH??? top 7 pick. I really thought he would be a 2nd or a 3rd pick. He is going to have more pressure on him to perform (right outta the box) than anyother player taken in the 1st round. I hope he can handle it.

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I totally agree and I was saying the same thing about DRC on another thread. Some guys on that thread were talking about how good DRC will be and how we need to get him at 10. The point that I brought up was that before the senior bowl very few average fans had even heard of him and then all of the sudden you got guys talking like they've known about him the whole time. Now you have people who have never even seen him play proclaiming him as the second coming of Deion.

It's so funny how people get caught up in the hype surrounding certain players every year about this time. I was told to go to youtube and watch DRC's highlight video. The guy said that after I watched the video I would "understand why we need DRC". So I watched it and yeah he looks like a freakin animal but I also noticed that he was the only real athlete on the field in his games. He was a man among boys. Don't get me wrong, the guy has talent and lots of it but it takes alot more than raw talent to be a NFL starter. He has the tools to be a great CB with proper coaching but that will take some time. I against taking any of this year's CBs at #10. IMHO none of them are worthy of such a high pick. I'd rather us get a safer player like Ellis or Rivers who would be more likely to start this year.

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in my eyes, if he didnt have cromartie in his last name and his cousin didnt have the year he had this year, we wouldnt be having this discussion. he'd be picked up in the later rounds. i think he has a lot of potential, but a top 10 pick? no way.

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If we go by your small school theory then I guess we shouldn't have drafted Colston.

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It is not just you. Great combine + one of his last names is Cromartie = all hype.

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You can't RATE anyone who hasn't played..
THE WHOLE LEVEL OF COMPETITION thing is TOTAL BS! We do better drafting the freaks of smaller schools than drafting kids from big time schools to begin with..

How is he overrated when he did compete against the best and blew them all out of the water..? Please explain? I'm actually beginning to respect the smaller schools players..

This kid has even Deion Sanders raving about his feet work. He's not just a kid with freakish ability. he actually has excellent feet work to go along with tremendous size.. The dude blocked 8 kicks in college.. regardless of what competition you play against that's insane.

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It is not just you. Great combine + one of his last names is Cromartie = all hype.

No one is marketing this kid, but his play. Get real. You want to talk about "all hype".. then talk about Matt Ryan who is benefitting from a WEAK ASS qb class..

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Randy Moss at Marshall must of played some seriously elite competition... right? No. But he had freakish ability along with tremendous size = 1st round draft pick.. Cromartie-Rodgers is no different.

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While the corner class is very deep.. I don't agree with taking any corner in the first round, however DRC is such a freak his upside is tremendous.

ALSO, You may be right that no one heard of him until the Senior Bowl.. but there's nothing wrong with that. It got him on the map for us to research about him.. THEN RAVE about him.

If anything you are the ones who talk about him like you know him. That because he went to a small school you immediately dismiss him. Lucky for us no one had heard of Meachem and he didn't have a show stopping senior bowl to get his name on the map.. or else he'd of been a shocking 1st round pick as well.

Think ABOUT IT THIS WAY.. The kid was excellent enough in college to be invited to 2 NCAA All Star games. :)

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This kid isn't overrated. In my eyes he's our 3rd best option behind Ellis and McKelvin.

Everyone is so concerned about the Saints past draft miscues. The comparisons are unwarranted. The guys we have making decisions now aren't the same as the ones responsible for our past debacles (and that's putting it mildly). Might they make some new mistakes? Sure, but I have confidence in their abilities to evaluate talent, character and desire.

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It isn't just DRC..It's the entire first round after the 7th or so pick.. Every team is in the "We are kinda reaching" deal.. Ellis won't be there. I don't mind drafting Rivers but if none of those 2 then I would love to see the saints get DRC. Regardles of the fact it is pick 10.

The funny thing is the only stuff bad you can come up with against him is his level of competition in college.. which basing off of level of competition is the only OVERRATED thing about this whole situation.. And he isn't benefitting anything from his last name.. but from his play. He got invited to both all star games with Rodgers on the back of his jersey.

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... there is an edit function where you can edit your post, rather than fire 3-4 in a row..

... anyway, I never said anything about Ryan, and I really don't want to talk about him...

.. I did make the mistake on commenting on your man-crush. My bad. I won't do it again..

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There was a reason Moss played at Marshall.

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yup.. he got kicked out of florida state...

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... I thought it was Notre Dame? Maybe I'm wrong

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There was a reason Moss played at Marshall.

Yeah and the reason DRC went to Tenn State is because he didn't even play organized football until his SENIOR season in HS. His family was in the military and he went to 4 different high schools all 4 years..

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The fact that he didn't play organized football until his senior season doesn't concern you a little? It's obvious that you really believe in DRC and you're making a case for the guy, I respect that. I've been reading you're posts about him and you've brought up so good points. Maybe some people would see that too if they weren't so worried about trying to make people look bad on a freaking message board. Low lifes.

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It was both, he had a battery charge (I think) then it was drug possession. His choice was either sit our a year or cheat the system and go to a division II school. So he went to Marshall.

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Well, if DRC if is available in the 7th round also I think we should take him

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We all know that small school players can preform at the nfl level. Everyone is talking about small school players like DRC and Moss but heres another one for yall, Jerry Rice. We have made some big improvements in the d this offseason but i still think we need a true lookdown cb. At first i was like who is the kid (DRC), then i started to research him and i have to agree with most people including Dieon. If he is there at ten take him, that is if New Egland doesnt first.

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I haven't studied Rogers-Cromartie so I have no personal knowledge of his play but I read in the Sporting News magazine that "In college, Rogers-Cromartie often got beat by receivers who will never play in the NFL. But he started climbing draft boards with an excellent Senior Bowl week and then broke out at the combine."

Yikes.
I'm still on the Rivers bandwagon. Assuming that Rivers is still available at 10 I'm hoping that the Saints pick him. I think that he'll benefit this defense more than any of the CB's that will be there for the Saints.