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QBREES9 04-14-2008 07:45 AM

Bush wants greater success
 
2theadvocate.com | Featured Saints Stories | Bush wants greater success — Baton Rouge, LA

“Now I’ve got to come and have an equal or better year,” Bush said. “I’ve got to get the crowd chanting MVP.”

It’s hard to fathom the statistics that would be required for Bush to have the NFL equivalent of Paul’s record-breaking season, but it’s clear that the Saints’ multi-purpose back, who will enter his third season in the fall just as Paul did at the start of this season, is looking for a breakout season.

After being the second player selected in the 2006 season, he had a modest rookie season and the only major difference in his sophomore season was that he missed the last four games because of a knee injury.

SapperSaint 04-14-2008 07:54 AM

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Oh yeah.?.? Well, join the club with the rest of us Reggie. In no way do you need to "Equal" the sucess you've had so far. You need to greatly improve.

I want to scream, M.V.P.!!!!!!! From the top of some place very high!!!

But....

If you have another crap season, I will be SCREAMING......

FIRE HIS A$$!!!!!

WVSaint 04-14-2008 08:18 AM

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i think he meant hes gotta have an equal or better year compared to what paul has done this year.

saintsfan1976 04-14-2008 09:06 AM

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I like the effect CP is having not only on his team, but on Reggie too. CP is a class act all the way.

pakowitz 04-14-2008 10:35 AM

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everyone talks about how reggie might be a bust n all this but man.. he is only 23 years old! 23! he is still a kid who has gotten all of the fame at such a young age.. it seems like everyone keeps asking these kids to just come in and be stars and the expectations are just unreal..

that being said.. i think reggie will have an awesome year this year.. 3 years in the system.. finally healthy and we will have some continuity on offense from the guys... we only lost 1 player on offense.. this will be a good year all around

Euphoria 04-14-2008 11:01 AM

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I don't think anyone calls him a bust. Hell I don't think he is but he isn't the savior of this francise either. I think people had all these great expectations of him but I think he is right where he is suppose to be.

SapperSaint 04-14-2008 11:14 AM

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I have heard guys complain about getting a guy that is 27, 28, 29. That's very young in age.

I don't want anyone to say I am comparing Reggie to Ryan Leaf....but Leaf had 3 years to prove he couldn't be an NFL QB. I don't see why it is such a strech to think that "Hey, maybe Reggie just isn't cut out to be an NFL running back." Thousands of guys who were great in high school couldn't cut it in college. Just like thousands of guys who were great in college couldn't cut it in the NFL.

I don't know how else to say it. I TRULY WANT REGGIE TO BE A HOF'er!!! However, if he doesn't produce this year, how much longer will we say, "Awe, he's just 24, 25, 26, 27..... before we get someone who will fill Deuces' shoes?

It's not just Reggie I am referring to.. it's all of them. We have a very good team, with holes here and there. I feel this core group of people can win a SuperBowl. They just need the people to perform that are suppose to perform.

That's all I'm saying. I just want what is best for the team.

SapperSaint 04-14-2008 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 161351)
I don't think anyone calls him a bust. Hell I don't think he is but he isn't the savior of this francise either. I think people had all these great expectations of him but I think he is right where he is suppose to be.

Great Point Euph.

Reggie was built up to be the savior of this team. We all (and I don't know many who didn't) think Reggie would be our Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders. Take us to a SuperBowl victory; carrying the entire team on his shoulders.

So much was put on this kid, by the media and by us as fans that he, more than likely, will not accomplish the goals that have been set for him... by "us".

papz 04-14-2008 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 161351)
I don't think anyone calls him a bust. Hell I don't think he is but he isn't the savior of this francise either. I think people had all these great expectations of him but I think he is right where he is suppose to be.

A wise man once said...

Quote:

Reggie Bush is a skilled player who sales jerseys -not a football player.
- Euphoria

Euphoria 04-14-2008 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 161354)
A wise man once said...



- Euphoria

Ahhh yes and those words are still very true today. Although I think Jersay sales maybe tailing off, I don't know.

papz 04-14-2008 01:12 PM

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I hate it when football players imitate to be football players... it's a sad sight. I don't know why this joker is still on our team... he's nothing more than a role player. We should seriously consider upgrading.

pakowitz 04-14-2008 01:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 161359)
Ahhh yes and those words are still very true today. Although I think Jersay sales maybe tailing off, I don't know.

top 10 jersey sales for 2006

1. RB LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers)

2. RB Reggie Bush (Saints)

3. Brian Urlacher (Bears)

4. Peyton Manning (Colts)

5. Brett Favre (Packers)

6. Tom Brady (Patriots)

7. Troy Polamalu (Steelers)

8. Vince Young (Titans)

9. Adrian Peterson (Vikings)

10. Randy Moss (Patriots)

EXTRA POINTS: Brady's sales are up 57 percent this season, according to Reebok. ... Favre's jersey is selling at a 96 percent increase from 2006.

Euphoria 04-14-2008 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 161360)
I hate it when football players imitate to be football players... it's a sad sight. I don't know why this joker is still on our team... he's nothing more than a role player. We should seriously consider upgrading.

LMAO. Now come on there isn't anything wrong with roleplayers, you need them but I just think people get mis-guided in the expectations of him being the guy. He needs certain players to come in and play roles around him. He's actually filling the same role he had at USC. He wasn't main RB there nor WR. He played a role in a offense's game plan.
I think it was more the team around him that won a lot of those games and he just made the highlights. LOL.
I don't have a problem with Bush on the team but to but that much burden on him is just unjustified because he never was that type of player.

Euphoria 04-14-2008 01:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pakowitz (Post 161362)
top 10 jersey sales for 2007

1. RB LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers)

2. RB Reggie Bush (Saints)

3. Brian Urlacher (Bears)

4. Peyton Manning (Colts)

5. Brett Favre (Packers)

6. Tom Brady (Patriots)

7. Troy Polamalu (Steelers)

8. Vince Young (Titans)

9. Adrian Peterson (Vikings)

10. Randy Moss (Patriots)

EXTRA POINTS: Brady's sales are up 57 percent this season, according to Reebok. ... Favre's jersey is selling at a 96 percent increase from 2006.

Wow slipped from 1 to 2. But do you have Bush's sales numbers for each year he's been a Saint?

winmill1 04-14-2008 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 161343)
Oh yeah.?.? Well, join the club with the rest of us Reggie. In no way do you need to "Equal" the sucess you've had so far. You need to greatly improve.

I want to scream, M.V.P.!!!!!!! From the top of some place very high!!!

But....

If you have another crap season, I will be SCREAMING......

FIRE HIS A$$!!!!!

Sapper Ithought the exact same thing as you. If he wants to hear MVP he must play way better. I read it again and figured he was talking about CP3. It was very dissappointing at first to think he would settle for an equal to last season.

Euphoria 04-14-2008 01:48 PM

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IMO he should shut the hell up and win a SB. Wanting MVP just proves he is out for his own good.

SapperSaint 04-14-2008 02:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 161370)
IMO he should shut the hell up and win a SB. Wanting MVP just proves he is out for his own good.

B.I.N.G.O.

pakowitz 04-14-2008 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 161365)
Wow slipped from 1 to 2. But do you have Bush's sales numbers for each year he's been a Saint?



sorry, that was for 2006

2007 looks like this

1. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys--Not a surprise given the size of the Cowboys faithful.

2. Tom Brady, New England Patriots--Every New England fan HAS to have a Brady jersey.

3. Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers--Amazing Favre is so high given that the Packers jersey has never changed.

4. Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts--Probably most boring/generic jersey in the NFL.

5. LaDainian Tomlinson, San Diego Chargers--Good running backs are always in top 10

6. Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings--With Moss and Culpepper gone, Peterson fills the purple gap.

7. Eli Manning, New York Giants--With the Super Bowl win, this should climb in the off season.

8. Randy Moss, New England Patriots--Ten years ago, Moss became the only rookie to have the league's most popular jersey.

9. Brian Urlacher, Chicago Bears--The embodiment of the nation's second largest market.

10. Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh Steelers--See Urlacher. This guy is the ultimate blue collar player for a blue collar place.

11. Devin Hester, Chicago Bears--This might be the most amazing guy on this list considering he only has 20 receptions in two years. I feel pretty confident in saying I never thought a kick returner would get this high.

12. Marion Barber, Dallas Cowboys--Winning again means Cowboys fans will spread the love around.

13. Reggie Bush, New Orleans Saints--This is a huge drop for Bush. He was No. 2 last year.

14. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers--Best value for the letters.

15. Terrell Owens, Dallas Cowboys--Interesting how much Cowboys fans prefer the Romo part of the connection over Owens.

16. Jason Witten, Dallas Cowboys--At No. 82, he's the highest number on the list.

17. Brady Quinn, Cleveland Browns--Pretty good for a guy who was on the field for a couple plays this season.

18. Sean Taylor, Washington Redskins--A spot on this list is an unbelievable tribute to the late Taylor.

19. Brian Westbrook, Philadelphia Eagles--With Donovan McNabb out of favor, Philly represents through Westbrook.

20. Bob Sanders, Indianapolis Colts- Joins Urlacher, Polamalu and Taylor as the only defensive players in the Top 20.




no colston or brees or deuce

QBREES9 04-14-2008 03:28 PM

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Maybe just maybe if Reggie lights its up this year his jersey sale will go up .........LOL.

This is your year Reggie LIGHT IT UP.

SaintFanInATLHELL 04-14-2008 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 161351)
I don't think anyone calls him a bust.

Both fans and the media ride the guy.
Quote:

Hell I don't think he is but he isn't the savior of this francise either. I think people had all these great expectations of him but I think he is right where he is suppose to be.
The hype machine had dude pegged as a cross between LT and Hester. Bush is supposed to be rushing for 1500 yards, scoring TDs every time he touches the ball, breaking league TD and total yards records, and striking fear into kickoff and punt teams all through the league.

The fact of the matter is that our offense is too prolific and too frenetic for anyone to consistently get that kind of productions. Presuming that Bush averages 15 rushing touches per game, dude would have to have a 6.25 YPC average to get 1500 yards over the course of a season.

From a quick look around profootballreference.com only one back in NFL history gained those kind of yards with that high a YPC over the course of a season: Jim Brown 1963 1863 yards on 291 carries for 6.4 YPC.

It just seems that everyone wants Bush to be LT, or AP. But that's not who he is, or probably is ever going to be.

From a rushing standpoint I'd be satisfied if Bush, and the J-line, can learn to simply rush effectively when needed. If dude can get 4 to 4.5 YPC of productive yards when he rushes, I really wouldn't care if he only rushes for 70-75 YPG. That's really all the Saints need from him to be effective.

Just my half a nickel,

SFIAH


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