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jtsaints 04-15-2008 08:31 PM

trade idea that mite b great
 
What if we traded with philly for lito and dropped to there spot. Picked up balmer which is just an ok pick to me but sounds like we like him, then in round 2 got kenny phillips safety from miami or maybe connors if he falls. round 3 best available TE or RB. we would get balmer for cheaper plus add 2 starting D players with balmer in a rotaion.

hagan714 04-15-2008 08:47 PM

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not at 19. Sorry I still see him as a second rounder. Stick with some of these names instead:
Mike Jenkins
Branden Albert
DeSean Jackson
Chris Williams
Dan Connor
These names make me feel much better than the The In-Balmer. The walking dead version Sullivan.

FireVenturi 04-15-2008 08:47 PM

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no offense, but Balmer and Philips are on my "no thank you list", if we do that I would rather Mayo in the first and Tracy porter-cb-in the second.

jtsaints 04-15-2008 08:52 PM

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i agree i dont want him i just c alot of stuff saying we r thinking about him there. i wouldnt mind if mendenhall or sterart fall to that pick or even a lb like mayo and get our DT in round 2. there will b sum to have there like moore or laws.

WVSaint 04-15-2008 08:53 PM

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If we could somehow pull off lito and mayo in the first id be thrilled. honestly, i think im warming up to the idea of trading the #10 for lito and the #19 more and more each day. if we can come away with lito and another defensive starter out of our first rounder it would be a blessing.

jtsaints 04-15-2008 08:56 PM

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what dont u like about phillips? i hear a lot of good things on him and we could use a safety. i agree with mayo. offinse 2 me is just if the right rb falls 2 a good spot only because duece is on his last leg and bush cant run inside.

pakowitz 04-15-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 161544)
Branden Albert


both kiper an mcshay have him the top 5 going to KC in their latest mock drafts...


McShay

5. Kansas City Chiefs -- Branden Albert, OT/G, Virginia
Record: 4-12 | Needs: OT, CB, DT, G, C, WR, QB
Scenario 1: If Jake Long somehow falls this far, he's the pick.
Scenario 2: Trade back and acquire more picks to better address a slew of needs.
Scenario 3: As much as it pains me to admit it, Mel Kiper's info on this pick seems to be accurate. It feels like a reach to me, but the Chiefs evidently think enough of Albert to take him if they are stuck here.
Scenario 4: The Chiefs could also consider Ryan, Dorsey or Ellis.

hagan714 04-15-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pakowitz (Post 161551)
both kiper an mcshay have him the top 5 going to KC in their latest mock drafts...


McShay

5. Kansas City Chiefs -- Branden Albert, OT/G, Virginia
Record: 4-12 | Needs: OT, CB, DT, G, C, WR, QB
Scenario 1: If Jake Long somehow falls this far, he's the pick.
Scenario 2: Trade back and acquire more picks to better address a slew of needs.
Scenario 3: As much as it pains me to admit it, Mel Kiper's info on this pick seems to be accurate. It feels like a reach to me, but the Chiefs evidently think enough of Albert to take him if they are stuck here.
Scenario 4: The Chiefs could also consider Ryan, Dorsey or Ellis.

He has flown up the board from the top of the second to the top of the first. He is good but at 5? KC will be reaching big time. Will he be there at 19? I doubt it. He probably come off the board before 15 but not at 5.
Then again with the salaries OG are getting now it is not out of the possibility. I am thinking NE is the first team to really consider him. At 10 I could live with the pick. Have Andy start learning to be a center, ASAP

pakowitz 04-15-2008 10:02 PM

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yea i couldnt imagine him going at 5 but if he is KCs guy and they cant find anyone to trade down with... i think they will actually find someone.. i can see Denver wanting to move up and snag Ellis.. their D line has been horrible the past couple years and they need something... i could see them definetly trying to jump everyone..

FireVenturi 04-15-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jtsaints (Post 161550)
what dont u like about phillips? i hear a lot of good things on him and we could use a safety. i agree with mayo. offinse 2 me is just if the right rb falls 2 a good spot only because duece is on his last leg and bush cant run inside.

His last name isnt Taylor or Reed, LOL and looking at his stats, it looks like he regressed this year.

hagan714 04-15-2008 10:08 PM

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KC's DL is not much better

jtsaints 04-15-2008 10:09 PM

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what was the reasoning for that tho? you dont think he would be an upgrade?

ScottF 04-15-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 161595)
He has flown up the board from the top of the second to the top of the first.

speaking of flying up boards, DRC is working his way down the second half, maybe early second (espn & yahoo) Maybe he still there at 40.

jtsaints 04-15-2008 10:13 PM

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i wouldnt bet on that tho. it would b nice if he did.

thesaintsfan 04-15-2008 11:44 PM

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Yeah KC is supposed to be really hot for B. Albert and R. Clady. I've also heard talk of J. Otah. I think they will be reaching for need no matter which o-lineman they take because to me Long is the only top 10 lineman in this class. It's crazy how high Fat Albert has risen so far. At first he was early to mid second and now there's talk of top five. I can understand what teams see in him because he's a monster guard who has enough athletisism to play tackle. I think he would be a great fit at either guard or RT for us but we won't be in posistion to take him.

As far as the possible trade for Lito I'm kinda torn. A part of me say heck yeah let's get a pro bowl caliber CB just for trading down 9 spots. But my more pessimistic side says that Lito isn't worth the big bucks he is gonna command. If he's so great then how come the Eagles want to get rid of him instead of Sheldon Brown? I guess Lito is gonna be more expensive. At the end of the day I think I would be elated if we could come out of the first round with Lito Sheppard and guy like Jarod Mayo.

hagan714 04-16-2008 06:00 AM

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actual I would love to see litto traded else where and the picks end up with us. That would be perfect.

zachsaints52 04-16-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jtsaints (Post 161541)
What if we traded with philly for lito and dropped to there spot. Picked up balmer which is just an ok pick to me but sounds like we like him, then in round 2 got kenny phillips safety from miami or maybe connors if he falls. round 3 best available TE or RB. we would get balmer for cheaper plus add 2 starting D players with balmer in a rotaion.

How about Balmer not at all? If we trade and get 19th I'd say Mayo as well. Because my pick Cason would be kinda useless.


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