Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

with Walter Thomas? I think everyone's wanted a great TE since Cleeland's 1st year showed what it could do. Maybe we're giving too much to Shockey because we want YAC from the TE position?

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

i think its a little different because the trade talks are/were very real....shockey is so talented and adding him would be a great new weapon on the offense....i think the hype is because everyone knows what it would mean to the saints offense....whether the off the field issues were there or not...shockey has talent and thats why we are so excited...i honestly dont see it happening but it would be lovely wouldnt it lol

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

Man papa, you got me depressed thinking about Cam Cleeland. I really wanted that guy to be a Saint great.

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

Yeah, too bad for hamstrings. It was a great 1 year though.

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

Did you just compare Shockey to Walter Thomas? Was Shockey doing back flips and robbing DQs? I mean, didn't Shockey go to 4 probowls while Mr. Walt T was going to 4 different JuCos?

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

No, not the players. Just asking if we think Shockey can help more than he really can because we all know what Brees did with Gates?

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

cleeland went downhill with the saints after that rookie hazing incident where he took a sock full of quarters to the eye

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

Thomas had the "potential" to help us whereas Shockey is a proven player. Also, Shockey is a different TE than Gates. Gates is more of a find the hole, get up and make the catch TE. Shockey would be used in our offense to stretch the seams, bait the safeties, and provide severe mismatch problems when him and Reggie were on the field at the same time. Gates is the best TE in football because he carries his team's passing game. Shockey would not be asked to be the main (and only) target, but to compliment the other weapons we have while adding another dimension to the offense.

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

LOL, Walter Thomas! Come on now.

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

Gates is the best RECEIVING tight end in football, but Shockey is the best blocking TE and probably the second or third best receiver.

Without Shockey, we're a top five offense this year.

With Shockey, we're a top five offense all time.

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

I just don't see this deal getting done.

Everything out of NYG seems as if JS will still be a Giant at the start of the year. I dunno...just my way of thinking.

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

Wow Guys.
Think inside the "Fishbowl" for a sec'.
New York is the "Fishbowl".
EVERYTHING is magnified there.
Media hype can make a player seem to be more than he is.
ESPN plays up everything "New York".
Duh! They are the largest media market in the world.
It is natural to think everything New York is great.
Including J Shockey's talent.
Is he the best out there?
Imagine Gates, Gonzales or Heap playing in New York.
Pause.....
JS is very talented.
Remember that the perception of a player's talent is MAGNIFIED when viewed in the "Fishbowl".
RMS

Re: Are we doing with Shockey what we did last year...
 

Preach preacher!!!