Re: Odell Thurman??
 

u have to look at the guys he was around in cincy...almost all of them are scrubs with character issues...if he hangs around them guess what....issues are almost guaranteed.....if he came to new orleans he would be surrounded by class A guys...nobody other than hollis thomas has had a history with bad reps....i think it would be a great fit....if u hang out with scrubs...u become a scrub....if u hang out with classy guys...u become classy....its inevitable that the environment around u tempts u

Re: Odell Thurman??
 

What he is saying is get him a new contract now before he plays with Ellis and we can get him cheaper than we could next year because of his possibly padded stats.

Re: Odell Thurman??
 

Will Smith is not a top 5 nor 10 DE in this league...

Franchise him like Howard till you get a guy worth the money...

Re: Odell Thurman??
 

what?!?! find me 10 better DEs..

Re: Odell Thurman??
 

oh boy now u started it

i will try....strahan, mario williams, osi umenyora, julius peppers,(jevon kearse?), jason taylor, do 3-4 LB/DEs count..i got a few there...for arguments sake no...they are LBs....dwight freeney, then i gotta go with Will smith

Re: Odell Thurman??
 

actually look what i found....all u gotta do is google search.......


Defensive ends in the National Football League can change the game in an instant with a big sack or any play that goes for a loss. Here's my top ten at this position.

1. Jason Taylor, Dolphins: Taylor is a very athletic guy that can play end or OLB. He had 13.5 sacks and two interceptions (both which were returned for touchdowns) en route to the Defensive Player of the Year Award.

2. Julius Peppers, Panthers: When Peppers is on, I don't know if any tackle in the league can block him. He supposedly had an "off" year in 2006, but still recorded 13 sacks.

3. Aaron Kampman, Packers: Not too many people know much about Mr. Kampman, but, the truth is he should probably be higher. His 15.5 sacks and 89 tackles were tops among D-Ends last year.

4. Aaron Schobel, Bills: Schobel, like Kampman, is a very underrated player. However, he finished second among ends in sacks last year and recorded 53 tackles.

5. Dwight Freeney, Colts: Frenny had an injury-filled 2006. If this list was being made after the 2005 season, he'd be number one.

6. Leonard Little, Rams: Little had 60 tackles to go along with this 13 sacks last season. He's had some off field issues, but is great against both the run and pass.

7. Derrick Burgess, Raiders: Burgess is the best player on a Raiders defense that I think finsihed third in yards agianst last year. He had 11 sacks, but led the league in that category in 2005.

8. Trevor Pryce, Ravens: Pryce used to be one of the most dominating players in Denver. He seems to have regained his old form in Baltimore as he racked up 13 sacks.

9. Justin Smith, Benagals: Smith only had 7.5 sacks last year, but did finsih second among ends in tackles with 81. He is as good as they get against the run.

10. Will Smith, Saints: Smith had 52 tackles and 10.5 sacks last year. He anchored what was a surprisingly good New Orleans defense.

Re: Odell Thurman??
 

honestly who cares whether we get him a new contract now or then...whether u call it padded stats or w/e....if he plays well with ellis....give him his money.....he deserves it...if the defense clicks dont mess with it cuz of a dumb issue like money

Re: Odell Thurman??
 

yeah, pay him a whole lot more money and maybe he will play as well as charles grant?!?

Re: Odell Thurman??
 

Ru serious...grant couldnt hold a candle to will smith....and lay off grant...(even tho i didnt)...he was injured last year and he is the best weak-side end that we have....i predict him moving to DT on passing downs and we rotate bobby mccray in at DE....but grant does well when its him and smith on the line together

Re: Odell Thurman??
 

LOL LB to DE?
i like our DEs.
i may end up liking our DTs this year.
LBs are up in the air.
Secondary is causing me to lose sleep at night.

Odell has to get a; "You play, You Get Payed" type of contract. pacman style.