Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!!

Saint_LB · 10-08-2009, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Well, I was around when all of that happened, and I would like to ask you, what exactly is it that Bobby did to the franchise?
Did he bench himself?
Did he come up and/or approved the trade for Walsh?
Did he bring in Wade Wilson?
Was he coaching the Saints in 1992-1993?
If Fourcade was that good of a QB that "he" won the last 3 games of the 1989 season against tough teams, was Bobby's idea to release Fourcade and bring in the aforementioned Walsh?
Why didn't Fourcade start in 1990? Did Bobby made that decision?

After all, Bobby was benched, right? He didn't bench himself. It was the coach's decision to bench him with the blessing of the FO. So how could a player who "obviously" wasn't good enough to play for the team in 1989 create all of this turmoil in 1990-1991-1992-1993?

No Sir. You can resent Bobby for holding out, but you need to resent Jim Finks as well for mis-managing the entire affair.

He didn't handle the benching like a man.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-08-2009, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

He didn't handle the benching like a man.

Oh, well, that sure explains it, doesn't it?

Jim Finks and Jim Mora Sr f*ed things up royally handling the situation, but they f*ed things up royally like real men...got it.

Saint_LB · 10-08-2009, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Oh, well, that sure explains it, doesn't it?

Jim Finks and Jim Mora Sr f*ed things up royally handling the situation, but they f*ed things up royally like real men...got it.

So...I'm guessing from your comment that you don't believe Bobby deserved to be benched in the first place? That would be a valid arguement, IMO.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-08-2009, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

So...I'm guessing from your comment that you don't believe Bobby deserved to be benched in the first place? That would be a valid arguement, IMO.

Whether Bobby deserved to be benched or not, the entire situation was totally mis-handled by the coach and the FO.

To me, this is what it boils to:

In the eyes of the coaching staff and the FO, was Hebert the best option at QB for the Saints?

If he was, and benched him for reasons other than his play, then the coach and the FO screwed things up from the get-go, Hebert should not have been benched, and Hebert should've gotten paid. One thing is for a starter to have a bad game, and the coach sitting him that game, another thing is making a starting QB change. Once you do that,you are telling that QB and everyone else he's not good enough to be your QB. And if he's not good enough to be your QB, what do you care as a coach or FO if he sits out a year or not?

If he wasn't, the team should've cut ties right there and then at the end of the 1989 season. Again,if he's not good enough,why would the coach of FO care if he's even on the team? And definitely they should have not given Dallas all those picks for Walsh, or plain bring in Walsh for that matter. And most definitely should not have brought Hebert back in 1991 and admit they were wrong.

So for me, whatever Bobby did for whatever reasons he did it, it does not compare to the royal screw up of the coaching staff and Front Office in handling the situation.

..and for the record,I didn't think Bobby deserved to be benched at the time.

exile · 10-08-2009, 10:11 AM

I missed listening to WWL yesterday. Anyone know if this dance was brought up?

10-08-2009, 08:19 AM	#1
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Well, I was around when all of that happened, and I would like to ask you, what exactly is it that Bobby did to the franchise? Did he bench himself? Did he come up and/or approved the trade for Walsh? Did he bring in Wade Wilson? Was he coaching the Saints in 1992-1993? If Fourcade was that good of a QB that "he" won the last 3 games of the 1989 season against tough teams, was Bobby's idea to release Fourcade and bring in the aforementioned Walsh? Why didn't Fourcade start in 1990? Did Bobby made that decision? After all, Bobby was benched, right? He didn't bench himself. It was the coach's decision to bench him with the blessing of the FO. So how could a player who "obviously" wasn't good enough to play for the team in 1989 create all of this turmoil in 1990-1991-1992-1993? No Sir. You can resent Bobby for holding out, but you need to resent Jim Finks as well for mis-managing the entire affair. He didn't handle the benching like a man.
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10-08-2009, 08:25 AM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Saint_LB He didn't handle the benching like a man. Oh, well, that sure explains it, doesn't it? Jim Finks and Jim Mora Sr fed things up royally handling the situation, but they fed things up royally like real men...got it.

10-08-2009, 08:28 AM	#3
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Oh, well, that sure explains it, doesn't it? Jim Finks and Jim Mora Sr fed things up royally handling the situation, but they fed things up royally like real men...got it. So...I'm guessing from your comment that you don't believe Bobby deserved to be benched in the first place? That would be a valid arguement, IMO.
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10-08-2009, 10:00 AM	#4
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Saint_LB So...I'm guessing from your comment that you don't believe Bobby deserved to be benched in the first place? That would be a valid arguement, IMO. Whether Bobby deserved to be benched or not, the entire situation was totally mis-handled by the coach and the FO. To me, this is what it boils to: In the eyes of the coaching staff and the FO, was Hebert the best option at QB for the Saints? If he was, and benched him for reasons other than his play, then the coach and the FO screwed things up from the get-go, Hebert should not have been benched, and Hebert should've gotten paid. One thing is for a starter to have a bad game, and the coach sitting him that game, another thing is making a starting QB change. Once you do that,you are telling that QB and everyone else he's not good enough to be your QB. And if he's not good enough to be your QB, what do you care as a coach or FO if he sits out a year or not? If he wasn't, the team should've cut ties right there and then at the end of the 1989 season. Again,if he's not good enough,why would the coach of FO care if he's even on the team? And definitely they should have not given Dallas all those picks for Walsh, or plain bring in Walsh for that matter. And most definitely should not have brought Hebert back in 1991 and admit they were wrong. So for me, whatever Bobby did for whatever reasons he did it, it does not compare to the royal screw up of the coaching staff and Front Office in handling the situation. ..and for the record,I didn't think Bobby deserved to be benched at the time.
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10-08-2009, 10:11 AM	#5
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