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Ok...I know the Saints got penalized, but did anyone else see the hit Vilma laid on Eli? I thought Eli's cleats were gonna come off. They ran the ball for the rest of the drive if I remember correctly. That was a hit!

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Yeah they replayed it a million times. I think Vilma thought he still had the ball and his momentum carried him. But it was hell of a hit and it did slow Eli down.
The fact is he is Archie's kid and seems like a good guy, glad nothing serious came of it.

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A $25K hit!

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Yup that hit going to hit Vilma in the pocket.

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anyone have the link to where i can see it? i would love to see that hit.

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The worst part was it was going to kill a pick 6.

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Vilma left his feet trying to block the pass. It was a grill-to-grill hit. Vilma was trying hard to pull his head back :) ...

I thought Eli could've avoided it but stood there waiting for the hit.. if that's the case, that's heads up from Eli.

I don't think it's going to cost Vilma $25K, because there was no intention to spear ELi, but a good $5K. Compared to that hit in the Panthers-Bucs game, Vilma caressed Eli's grill.

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It was obvious Vilma was trying to pull back, but his momentum carried him. Too bad, another pick 6 by Sharper would have put him in the Pro Bowl this year no matter what else happened the rest of the season.

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That's such a tough rule to live with. By rule, it was a good call but, I hate having a big play negated by this rule. The reason is this: First of all, a few years ago that wouldn't have even been close to roughing the passer in any way because there was no way to stop without hitting the QB. It was by no means a late shot. Secondly, when you're playing that fast, being partially blocked, and don't know if the QB will move to escape, or stand in and throw, it puts the defensive player in an impossible position even if he has the best intentions.

The other thing is this, if you're attacking the QB directly in front and moving forward, you can't even attempt to bat down a pass without risking helmet to helmet or hand to helmet contact because, even worse than the call on Vilma is when you see an incidental touch by a defensive players hand on the helmet of a QB. Ive see that called also. The refs really need to use discretion in this particular case. Same with the contact to the knees, sometimes you're blocked into them.

The Vilma call was legit I suppose but I'd like the see the language changed somehow before more games get decided by one of the more marginal contact to helmet or even contact to knees calls. (Pats-Ravens)

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i hope this link works

NFL.com Photos - NYG v NO 10-18-09

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I don't really mind the occasional 15 yard roughness penalties. It just part of being aggressive. Vilma is not a dirty player, and it did not appear he was trying to hurt Manning. A good call by the ref, even if we do not like or agree with the rules. Let's face it, we really don't want anyone hitting Brees, so I can live with it.

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DAMN !! give him some tylenol !

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As I explained to my fiance, it appears as though Eli was being hit as if he was in a car accident the way his head went. I won't say I didn't laugh but I'm glad he's ok. Legit call, I can live with it now that the demolishing has been complete, but another Sharper pick 6 would have been oh so sweet.

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yeah it was a nice hit, but definitely helmet to helmet. good things hes ok, sharper should have a fine coming.

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I'm surprised practically all of us believe it was the right call. It says a lot. That pick six would have been sick though. It's nice to have a leader back their leading by example with his play. One of the best off season signings of any team.

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I love you this much:
http://static.nfl.com/static/content...allery_600.jpg

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Sweet picture lumm0x.

It was definitely late, and definitely helmet-to-helmet. If it hadn't ruined a pick six, I actually wouldn't have minded it. Love to see guys flying around out there with reckless abandon...

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Launched and led with the head on a hit of the QB. Will cost him atleast $25K and it should. Vilma has to be smarter. That was a 14 point swing. Thankfully, it didn't matter.

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If you think it was cool on tv, you should have seen it live.
You know, I'll just never belong in modern times. People wearing helmets to ride bicycles. Kids cant ride in the back of the truck. And that perfect form tackle yesterday is now a Brady Penalty. Such BS. But then Matt gives us this: good point.

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In the NFL caption they call Vilma Scott Fujita ? Hope Fujita is alright though maybe if his injury is serious now they would bring in Smith or Brooks. Guess the best is to wait till we here how serious this is. I really underrated our linebackers coming into this season though and if this is not serious I do not think a move is necessary
Eli is good people but I still can't stand the way he came in the NFL
I am surprised that he got that one off. He took one for his team that time so I have to give him credit. $25K is way out of proportion even if I do not like Eli I think this is a good rule. Almost all the players nowadays seem to lead with their head more so than the shoulder as it should be. This is the reason we see more and more concussions. I don't know sometimes is may just be coincidental.

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We are well on our way to "two hand touch below the waist". What if Manning had faked it? tucked it? then tried to dump to a safety valve? We are going to soon see a defender pull-up on a QB's pump fake and get burned for not continuing on to make the play. Players are just going to have to be willing to PAY to play. It will no doubt be reviewed by the league, and I can't wait to see what they have to say and how much it cost. Even though we lost the pick6, it set up future rushed throws, bad throws, throw aways, and loads of other thoughts that should not be in Eli's head during his reads. We love ya Eli, but take this with ya!

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I agree 100%
I don't think play kill the man with the ball but come on I saw Breese get smacked from behind during one play in the first quarter and no one said anything

they want to talk about a hit that warrants the league getting involved this is one right here...

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That Wesley hit was NASTY...his wallet is going to be lighter for that one.

Heard that may even wind up at home for a while...Just glad it wasn't one of the Saints getting drilled like that...

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Does the NFL fine every player that gets a personal foul now? OMG WTF

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This is the first time I see the hit but IMO, yes it was an early hit and a violent hit but it was a hit to the chest not the head and he lead with a forearm not the helmet. It's defintely a penalty for hitting him early but just a few years ago that would have been a highlight on Jacked UP. I don't see the suspension, how does this hit be classified any different than the one Ray Lewis did last week on Ouchostinko. He was fined but not suspended. I'm sure he will also be fined but man years ago this would have been a hit that only was penalized for being done early. Lynch and Romanski made a living on these type of hits.

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He didn't "lead with his helmet". "Leading with the helmet" would be lowering the head and hitting with the crown of the helmet. Look at the picture: Vilma did what every coach since Pee Wee league tells you: look at what you are hitting.

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The behind view looks like it to me.

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Look at the picture above posted by Lummox.

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no way look for your self...


http://static.nfl.com/static/content...allery_600.jpg

that is not a helmet lead
his facemask is clearly in his chest

man it's football not golf
I have seen people plant bigger hits in baseball

I will however agree he got his bell rung but that's the name of the game

sorry but I disagree with the call here and no I do not say that simply because he is a saint

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but I think the real reason for the fine was not the fact that it was a clean hit but rather because it was a late hit

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peronally i think it was a clean hit. Brees took coupla late hits (no calls) didnt vilma have to jump over someone on the ground so he didnt get his legs rolled?