Bush dominate today's edition of the Saints mailbag

SmashMouth · 11-08-2009, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I believe that Bush's fumble problems earlier this year (and over his career) are a factor here. Thomas and Bell don't have a history of fumbling often and really, they just run better than Bush.

Agreed .... he still dances too much in the backfield. He does shine as a situational back ...problem is, he is getting paid too much for that.

Saint_LB · 11-08-2009, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff Duncan

You can't just start yanking kickers around every time they miss a kick. Sean Payton has learned that lesson the hard way and is doing the smart thing by sticking with his veteran kicker.

This pretty much reiterates my reply in the Carney thread last week. IMO, it's not so much that Payton doesn't want to make the switch, it's just that he doesn't want to be put in the situation where someone might be able to say, "How could you make the same mistake twice?"

It says that Hartley got hurt on Friday, so I guess it becomes a moot issue...for the moment, at least.

bobad · 11-08-2009, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Agreed .... he still dances too much in the backfield. He does shines as a situational back ...problem is, he is getting paid too much for that.

Exactly right.

Some of Jeff Duncan's posters are asking whether Payton is holding
Reggie back because his contract is loaded with incentives. It's
painfully obvious that Payton is holding him back because of
performance, which Jeff failed to emphasize. Jeff will have to
excuse the ignorant fans who expect a high level of performance
from the No. 2 draft choice. The same fans that expect more from
Reggie are still rooting for him, but there's a limit to patience.

CantonLegend · 11-08-2009, 08:52 AM

our team has had trouble with fumbles all season, not just reggie......drew fumbled, PT fumbled a couple.....bell now has 2 fumbles......reggie is just one of the culprits now......i expect his touches to go back up as we start facing tougher defenses

PT and bell like to run hard and smart.....reggie is all about going the distance and since he has been striking out more than hitting homeruns i completely understand his drop in touches

bummer that hartley is hurt......im disappointed that carney still has a job

SmashMouth · 11-08-2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

our team has had trouble with fumbles all season, not just reggie......drew fumbled, PT fumbled a couple.....bell now has 2 fumbles......reggie is just one of the culprits now......i expect his touches to go back up as we start facing tougher defenses

What? We haven't faced tough defenses yet?

CantonLegend · 11-08-2009, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

What? We haven't faced tough defenses yet?

i said once we start facing tougher defenses.....not that we havent already faced tough defenses......

reggie is great at changing the pace of the game and when we are struggling against the #1 pass defense in the league today i expect reggie to see more touches because he can do more with less

also against defenses like the patriots i expect him to see his share of touches as well.....as we get into the playoffs, you will start to see his touches come back....simply because he can turn 1 touch into an 80 yard TD

11-08-2009, 05:09 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,926 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Bush dominate today's edition of the Saints mailbag Originally Posted by iceshack149 I believe that Bush's fumble problems earlier this year (and over his career) are a factor here. Thomas and Bell don't have a history of fumbling often and really, they just run better than Bush. Agreed .... he still dances too much in the backfield. He does shine as a situational back ...problem is, he is getting paid too much for that.
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11-08-2009, 06:32 AM	#2
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Bush dominate today's edition of the Saints mailbag Originally Posted by Jeff Duncan You can't just start yanking kickers around every time they miss a kick. Sean Payton has learned that lesson the hard way and is doing the smart thing by sticking with his veteran kicker. This pretty much reiterates my reply in the Carney thread last week. IMO, it's not so much that Payton doesn't want to make the switch, it's just that he doesn't want to be put in the situation where someone might be able to say, "How could you make the same mistake twice?" It says that Hartley got hurt on Friday, so I guess it becomes a moot issue...for the moment, at least.
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11-08-2009, 08:14 AM	#3
bobad 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 247	Re: Bush dominate today's edition of the Saints mailbag Originally Posted by SmashMouth Agreed .... he still dances too much in the backfield. He does shines as a situational back ...problem is, he is getting paid too much for that. Exactly right. Some of Jeff Duncan's posters are asking whether Payton is holding Reggie back because his contract is loaded with incentives. It's painfully obvious that Payton is holding him back because of performance, which Jeff failed to emphasize. Jeff will have to excuse the ignorant fans who expect a high level of performance from the No. 2 draft choice. The same fans that expect more from Reggie are still rooting for him, but there's a limit to patience.
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11-08-2009, 08:52 AM	#4
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Bush dominate today's edition of the Saints mailbag our team has had trouble with fumbles all season, not just reggie......drew fumbled, PT fumbled a couple.....bell now has 2 fumbles......reggie is just one of the culprits now......i expect his touches to go back up as we start facing tougher defenses PT and bell like to run hard and smart.....reggie is all about going the distance and since he has been striking out more than hitting homeruns i completely understand his drop in touches bummer that hartley is hurt......im disappointed that carney still has a job

11-08-2009, 10:20 AM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,926 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Bush dominate today's edition of the Saints mailbag Originally Posted by CantonLegend our team has had trouble with fumbles all season, not just reggie......drew fumbled, PT fumbled a couple.....bell now has 2 fumbles......reggie is just one of the culprits now......i expect his touches to go back up as we start facing tougher defenses What? We haven't faced tough defenses yet?

11-08-2009, 10:57 AM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Bush dominate today's edition of the Saints mailbag Originally Posted by SmashMouth What? We haven't faced tough defenses yet? i said once we start facing tougher defenses.....not that we havent already faced tough defenses...... reggie is great at changing the pace of the game and when we are struggling against the #1 pass defense in the league today i expect reggie to see more touches because he can do more with less also against defenses like the patriots i expect him to see his share of touches as well.....as we get into the playoffs, you will start to see his touches come back....simply because he can turn 1 touch into an 80 yard TD