Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty?
 

Tom Benson looks to have passed the reigns to Rita. In the last few years the Saints have created a strong FO and they do an excellent job of finding talent in the most unusual places. They have brought in Payton who studied under Bill Parcells and knows how a quality organization is run. They also brought in Williams and other coaches who put the Saints in a position to win. The locker room is led by Drew Brees who has the potential to be in the HOF(a Superbowl win would get him there) The team develops players and grooms them to be successors. There is a lot of good depth through out the team and we have a good rotation with solid backups who don't seem to miss a beat because they are well trained. The teams locker room has chemistry that is infectious to the newcomers and there is a team first attitude. So, my question is have the New Orleans Saints been built to be a dynasty? :cool:

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I think its WAY to early to even hint at this team as being a dynasty. We are still a building up coming team for sure. We just got an important peice of the puzzle by getting Williams, which remains to be seen how long are we going to be able to hang on to him.

I don't think Tom has turn the reigns over to Rita. I don't see that happening for awhile yet still. She's apart of it but its still Tom.

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As long as we have Drew Brees at the helm and keep making great offseason acquisitions, I dont see why not.

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You're missing an important catagory. I think we will be ok for a couple of seasons, but pretty soon our pantry will be raided.

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Wow. ;ust WOW! U guys have got the horse in china, while the cart is still on canal street.
The superbowl conversation I thought was the most premature conversation I've seen in here.
I stand corrected.

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We've had a dynasty for years. Just not the kind you want to be known for.

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I agree it is premature to talk about being a Superbowl winner or even that we are a Dynasty, but the question is do you think we were built to be a dynasty? (you know...built strong from the inside)

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No, obviously we're not a dynasty at this point. Here's how I'd define a dynasty ...

- 2 Championships in a 5-year span
- Perennial playoff contender in 5-year span, preferably longer
- Star players, big name players
- Additional fans and merchandise nationwide
- Non-fans get tired of hearing about that team

By my definition there were only two dynasties in the NFL in this decade - New England and Pittsburg. For the Saints, this would be, at best, year 1 of a budding dynasty. And if Armageddon comes in 2012 we're screwed.

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I think that as an organization, we are on the right track, but until the train, stops in Miami, I don't
want to even consider this. I'm sorry, I just believe in jinx's, and this is a major one to me.

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I guess my answer is yes, but I'd word it a little differently. The Saints have the capacity. Stable ownership, we know the team will stay in N.O. now, good coaching, supportive fans. And our core of players is not too old.

But as we saw with the Rams about 10 years ago, it can turn south and your s**t can start to stink in a hurry.

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The question asks if we are built to be a dynasty, not are we a dynasty.

I think the current organization is structured in a way that should lead to several more winning seasons.

And I guess it depends on how you define dynasty. The Eagles haven't won a Superbowl but have been close for what seems like 10 years. At a minimum I think we can achieve that level of success for an extended period of time.

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I would really love a championship first. Let's get through this 19-0 season and return to the Superbowl next year and we'll talk.

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Hmmmm I have to hope for maybe here. I like the moves but there is so much thats needs to be done with bring in new young talent and we also have some salary cap issues to work on first before i can say anything other than "Maybe"

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Went with "Let's win one first and then talk".

I agree with Danno. We have the key pieces to be a solid NFC contender for 5-6 years and if draft well and continue to add solid FA's we can be Eagles-like. I'd like to see a few more late seasons successes than they have experienced though.

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Very good potential, the Saints are doing the right things these days. They have an ideal QB for playing indoors, and the cast to go with it. The defense is still a work in progress but it's getting there. Loomis has been one heck of a GM and has not made very many mistakes on players. Benson has been a very good owner for the Saints, yeah I know some would disagree with that. I guess we will see. The truth in the NFL is things do change all the time, so as good as things are now, it's always possible to get bad. As noted, the Rams are a prime example.

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I think this team is close to being built for a dynasty. Everyone knows that as long as SP is the head coach, the offense is going to be high powered and hard to stop.

The question that I really have is the defense. While well coached, much improved and much more aggressive, what happens if when our much heralded DC leaves? Greg Williams has been instrumental in this teams success. If he leaves SP has to find someone else that will compliment his versitile and aggressive style on offense.

If the Saints continue to win this year, you can bet that Greg Williams will be on the radar for a lot of teams next year. Bensen is going to have to write a big check to keep him around another year....that's if he wants to remain in NO as a DC. Another team is going to want him as the HC and that may be enough to lead him astray regardless of how much Bensen wants to pay him.

IMO, the Saints have several pieces in place to remain a contender for a few years. They gotta make it to the SB in order for me to buy into it completely though.

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We are good but we can't be way over our heels to say w are gonna be a dynasty. We can very well end up 8-8 again (knock in wood). So we can't loose our focus and keep playing with heart and intensity.

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Agreed, a lot of the success is going to depend on how long Gregg Williams sticks around. The one thing going for the Saints is he was already a head coach, and maybe, just maybe, he is not that high on the wish list for teams. Plus I really don't believe there will be many coaching changes this off-season. Yes, there are some pretty stinky teams right now, but most have coaches that are just starting out with their teams. I would be very worried if the Titans foolishly dump Jeff Fisher.

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Steelers
Niners
Cowboys

Celtics
Lakers
Bulls

Yankees
A's
Dodgers

The Hockey ones


Saints???

No, my friends. Don't go buying tshirts just yet.

Although some teams still have "winning traditions" today's caps and free agencies don't make for great dynasties.


I WILL BE HAPPY WITH CHAMPIONSHIP NUMERO UNO!!!

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Way too early to even consider it. We're having a great year and all, but we really haven't done jack squat and have yet to even make it to a Superbowl. I think we have a solid foundation to become a perennial winner... but dynasty is way premature and laughable actually. Obviously Brett Farve is playing into his 40s, but that's just not the case with everyone. How long does everything think Drew can sustain this level of success? Will it be long enough for us to possibly win 1 Superbowl? At a lot of key positions, we'll have a lot of older players that will be on the downside of their careers in the next couple of years.

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a dynasty needs to win multiple championships......to this day, our franchise has none

i love the wishful thinking but dear god dont jinx us

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We haven't? I mean the way some people are talking we have this one in the bag already we defeated the Colts 40-38, didn't you hear, LMAO.

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Way too early for this kindof talk!!

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Definately wayyy too early to be talking dynasty. Right now my eyes are on making the playoffs and having homefield throughout as I didn't like our chances in that snowy Chicago game of 2006 (although Vikings may be the main threat and at least they are in a dome)

On a more pressing level....nice avatar homer lol

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Again, the question isn't "are we a dynasy", its are we built " to become one", meaning we aren't one yet.

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I guess what people call a "dynasty" in football is a team that wins 3 championships within 5 years. You only hear the 70's Steelers, the 80's Whiners, then 90's Cowboys, and the 2000's Pats being referred as a dynasty.

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True. No one is denying what we have now. Its nice to be solid at key positions...but whose to say we will even be able to afford to keep these "pieces" of a potential dynasty

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The word dynasy and Saints have no place together. This thread is the kind of thread that other team's boards would tear apart. "Oh look, the Saints fans think their a dynasy".

In any case, when I saw your thread, I laughed. Are we built to be a dynasty? Depends on how long Greg Williams stays.

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Sounds like we have a consensus. The Saints are putting the pieces in place to enable several seasons of championship contention. They won't actually be a dynasty unless they win 2-3 Super Bowls, which is a tall order indeed. The difference between the Eagles and the Patriots of the last several years is a handful of plays made or not made at critical times.

What are the key pieces of a perennial contender? I would say outstanding QB, outstanding coaching, high character players, depth at all positions, no high-priced free agents, and a culture of continuous improvement. The Saints have made a lot of progress putting those pieces together. If they keep heading in that direction, they will be very good for a number of years. As for championships, that is up to the football gods.

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BTW, Rita is already running the day to day operations. I listened to a long interview with her in Sirius earlier this year. Tom still had a hand in things, but his role is reduced.

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Agree totally with Foreverfan. Should be removed to smack talk. We got a long way to go and the dynasty talk should come from the outside looking in. As far as Rita Benson Leblanc I hope she continues to have a diminished role and Benson lives to be 100 years old. Look what the woman owner has done to the Rams either directly or indirectly. I do not mean to be judge mental or against women and there are exceptions to every rule but she is not the exception. Per my point In general this should be a Mans position and chiefly all your interactions are going to be with rich powerful men (give me a break). How is she as a woman going to not put herself in embarrassing positions and really relate to the 'A' type men in the NFL. She may be a great office person and ambassador for the Saints but needs to have nothing to do with the football operations.

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Agreed. She'll do fine as an owner because she'll most likely let football guys handle the footballl stuff and let qualified personnel do the admin stuff.

She will be an upgrade.

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Didn't read the whole thread, but my smart ass reply is no. I think Tom, Rita, Mickey, and Sean decided that they would prefer to build a team that would be good for just one year...then they'd get rid of everybody and do it again because it was so much fun.

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I am embarrassed to say I read this thread ... An absolute waste of time.

Someone is asking if we can be a dynasty and we haven't even EVER won the NFC Championship? People, I'm excited as hell about this season as well, but let's not get ridiculous ...

How about we actually get to the Super Bowl and win it --- then we'll discuss this NEXT year if we start out 8-0 ... Until then ... Let's not be the idiot fans we hate on every other message board ... I'm all for intelligent conversation, but this is borderline stupid. Just stupid.

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This is not border line stupid...border line stupid would be reading something into nothing when only a question is answered. I'm trying to get a feel for what the consensus of members think about the Saints future.:rolleyes:

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Rugby ... By no means was I calling YOU stupid --- You're a fellow Saints fan and I'd never do that ... I just think this discussion is dumb. I can't imagine ANY franchise not believing that whatever they are putting together is good enough for a 'dynasty' ... All of them would tell you that is what they are doing ...

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I think the question Rugby is asking is do "you" think they are built to be a dynasty. Not what the franchise believes.

At least that how I read it.

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Borderline stupid? We're waaaayyyyy past that.

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In any case, as my blonde school girl avatar looks down and reads the Obama pic, she believes it 100%.