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Dasidreidia 11-30-2009 04:44 PM

Blasphemy on NFL.com
 
"OMG I CANT WAIT its so weird being a saints for for 10 years now and being this far in the season without a lose...its as if i am not cheering for the underdog nemore..which is why i became a fan but now i am cheering the Goliath...neways GOOOOO SAINTS...and for god sakes STOP SAYIN WHO DAT!!!...its annoyin and g e h"

An actual post from an NFL.com article.

:pokechop::pokechop::pokechop:


Saints will have to win a shootout to beat Patriots, stay unbeaten



Dasidreidia 11-30-2009 04:46 PM

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And the response to that post.

"I can't believe that someone who calls them a true saints fan would say to saints fans to stop saying "Who Dat!" we are the Who Dat nation. its easy to spot the bandwagon fans. WHO DAT!"

The bandwagon jumper's reply

"banwagon my a s s r e t a r d WHO DAT IS STUPID ...we are not an ebonic speaking turd team this year...or since we have had brees..we are a good team so stoping sayin annoying things like WHO DAT when we are junk again and our play looks like we cant spell or pronounce words correctly then we can go back to sayin who dat...time to turn the page r e t a r d s who say who dat...its absurd to think that was ever a good thing to yell..."

SaintPauly 11-30-2009 04:46 PM

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Who Dat, is much better than Who Dey... Thieving Bengals.. :)

Dasidreidia 11-30-2009 04:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 179640)
Who Dat, is much better than Who Dey... Thieving Bengals.. :)

Actually, I'm inclined to believe we stole it since they've been around longer.

Dasidreidia 11-30-2009 04:49 PM

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"On the other hand, Im also a Saints fan, and think anyone who says Who Dat is an idiot.. Pats time is over. Go Saints!"

And another. You wanted bandwagon jumpers?

Sir Psycho Sexy 11-30-2009 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasidreidia (Post 179642)
Actually, I'm inclined to believe we stole it since they've been around longer.

Nope, pretty sure WHO-DAT was first. The Bungels added that who-dey crap recently as i recall.

TheDeuce 11-30-2009 04:49 PM

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The Houston Rockets have just stolen the Who Dat chant as well. I hate the Rockets.

CantonLegend 11-30-2009 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasidreidia (Post 179642)
Actually, I'm inclined to believe we stole it since they've been around longer.

we didnt steal it.....its different

they say who dEY......we say who dAT

its kinda like vanilla ice didnt steal ice ice baby from queen

its different i sware

SaintPauly 11-30-2009 04:57 PM

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that we started Who Dat first. They are both from the eighties, but I think we started it. What's next, the Lions, and the "Who Dem" nation.....?

Dasidreidia 11-30-2009 04:59 PM

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Meh. I just know they were good before we started it. But now that I think about it, I hadn't heard it until recently. Throw in their 2005 season, and it adds up.

saintfan 11-30-2009 05:02 PM

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Who? Dat? Where dat at?

Rugby Saint II 11-30-2009 05:06 PM

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Where ya' at Who Dat???

SaintPauly 11-30-2009 05:11 PM

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Me and my boy Tony have a couple of battle crys at the bar. Everytime Shockey catches the ball, we scream SHOCKEY, and do the shocker sign. That gets a pretty funny response. And then we also yell, "Dirty South in your mouth!" When we get a sack... We are pretty dirty minded... :)

We also call Kim K., a black and gold digger....

Euphoria 11-30-2009 06:18 PM

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WHO DAT came first!!!

It was actually started by Souther University and LSU picked it up briefly. Saints fans started back in early 1970's but the team took it on officially in 1983. Bengals first used it in 1981.

Its ours and they stole it!!!

I saw the same thing happen with Houston Oilers had a fight song, got some airplay with it back with Bum was there and then other teams had there version of it cut.

strato 11-30-2009 06:26 PM

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Who dat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9thWardDesire 12-01-2009 05:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasidreidia (Post 179639)
And the response to that post.

"I can't believe that someone who calls them a true saints fan would say to saints fans to stop saying "Who Dat!" we are the Who Dat nation. its easy to spot the bandwagon fans. WHO DAT!"

The bandwagon jumper's reply

"banwagon my a s s r e t a r d WHO DAT IS STUPID ...we are not an ebonic speaking turd team this year...or since we have had brees..we are a good team so stoping sayin annoying things like WHO DAT when we are junk again and our play looks like we cant spell or pronounce words correctly then we can go back to sayin who dat...time to turn the page r e t a r d s who say who dat...its absurd to think that was ever a good thing to yell..."

Bandwagon jumper, indeed. First, that BS term "EBONICS" was created by a doofus school teacher in Oakland, California in the mid to late '90s. The "WHO DAT" chant came out when I became a Saints fan, 1983. There is no such thing as EBONICS. From pre-school to college, I have never seen the term in the dictionary (makes me wonder why the educational system is in the crapper). You don't tell the folks in Dallas to stop saying, "HOW 'BOUT DEM COWBOYS!!" Do you? For this bandwagon jumper, who can't tell duct tape from a cassette tape, who thinks Samuel L. Jackson is a high school, goes on NFL.com, claiming to be a 'fan', yet thinks the 'WHO DAT" chant is a term that wasn't even in the dictionary until close to 2000. That's like telling The Meters to stop singing "HEY POCKY-A-WAY". I don't know who this bandwagon fan is and I personally don't want to know who it is. I just hope that their ankles AINT in a cast from "TEAM-HOPPING"!
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arsaint 12-01-2009 07:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 179652)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that we started Who Dat first. They are both from the eighties, but I think we started it. What's next, the Lions, and the "Who Dem" nation.....?


If it is the Lions, I'd go with "Who Else"

woody 12-01-2009 09:36 AM

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saints fan for ten years? thats nothin unless you're a young teenager

DjBlueBeast 12-02-2009 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by woody (Post 180006)
saints fan for ten years? thats nothin unless you're a young teenager

ouch ............ well im 25 now and ever since i started going to high school and started caring about football (not to mention thats when i was playing football ) ive been a black and gold fan. id say thats pretty damn good. my uncle (r.i.p.) put me on the saints because that was his team sicne before i was born.

so 10 years for me is technically all my football lovin life so far (if that makes any sense)

woody 12-02-2009 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DjBlueBeast (Post 180406)
ouch ............ well im 25 now and ever since i started going to high school and started caring about football (not to mention thats when i was playing football ) ive been a black and gold fan. id say thats pretty damn good. my uncle (r.i.p.) put me on the saints because that was his team sicne before i was born.

so 10 years for me is technically all my football lovin life so far (if that makes any sense)

hey thats cool, i was just kind of being a smart ass 'cause i'm 34 and been a fan all my life. geaux saints!

Papa Voodoo 12-02-2009 12:23 PM

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WHO DATin' Bellichick and Brady with 5 minutes left in the game...priceless. The dome was SO LOUD. Mike is a beast.

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-02-2009 12:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 179702)
WHO DAT came first!!!

It was actually started by Souther University and LSU picked it up briefly. Saints fans started back in early 1970's but the team took it on officially in 1983. Bengals first used it in 1981.

Its ours and they stole it!!!

I saw the same thing happen with Houston Oilers had a fight song, got some airplay with it back with Bum was there and then other teams had there version of it cut.

The Wikipedia article on Who Dat tracks Euph's assertion:

Who Dat? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quote:

The "Who Dat?" Cheer

Finally, "Who Dat" became part of a chant for fans cheering on their favorite team. It has been debated exactly where it started, but some claim it began with Southern University fans either in the late 1960's or early 70's and went "Who dat say dey gonna beat dem Jags" - Southern University being nicknamed the Jaguars. Another claim is that around the same time it began at St. Augustine High School, a historically African-American all boys Catholic high school in New Orleans, and then spread to the New Orleans Public Schools. Another claim is that the cheer originated at Patterson High School in Patterson, Louisiana (home of Saints running back Dalton Hilliard). In the late 70's fans at Louisiana State University picked up on the cheer. In 1983, the New Orleans Saints organization adopted it during the tenure of coach Bum Phillips, though fans had been cheering the "Who Dat?" cheer since the team's inception in 1967. In 1981, the Cincinnati Bengals fans and players started with the now famous "Who Dey" cheer.
BTW the Cincy "Who Dey" cheer came from a local Cincy commercial. There are sites that claim the Saints "Who Dat" came from them. So there's still some dispute.

SFIAH

Tobias-Reiper 12-02-2009 01:28 PM

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... on a related note, not so long ago I went looking around for the answer, and the earliest reference to "who dat" I found was a 1919 play named "Who Dat" which showed in theaters in Ohio.... go figure :)

Papa Voodoo 12-02-2009 01:47 PM

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It's in an old minstrel song and we did not copy it from the Bengals. Why would we copy ANYTHING from the Bengals? That is just silly.

LordOfEntropy 12-03-2009 07:06 AM

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The St. Augustine Purple Knights have been doing the Who Dat chant since 1975. It was even printed on Rally's towels here in New Orleans since the 1970's.

But the Bengals picked up the same chant (but changed Who Dat to "Who Dey") and began using it in 1981. They trademarked it. But there's not doubt that they stole the chant - because the cadence, melody, and call/return pattern are identical. It cannot have developed independently.

gumbeau 12-03-2009 08:28 AM

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As for people arguing that who dat is somehow connected to modern, urban black dialect here is what I consider a fairly accurate Wiki on the origins and structure of the New Orleans YAT dialect.


It always pisses me off when Hollywood thinks New Orleans is Cajun accented, Cajun country sounds like backwoods Georgia and otherwise generally screwing up Louisiana on the big screen.

Louisiana needs no help cultivating its poor image.

exile 12-03-2009 08:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gumbeau (Post 180698)
It always pisses me off when Hollywood thinks New Orleans is Cajun accented, Cajun country sounds like backwoods Georgia and otherwise generally screwing up Louisiana on the big screen.

Louisiana needs no help cultivating its poor image.

How does a Cajun accent cultivate a poor image? It is a mix of French and English and I hear plenty of it in and especially around New Orleans. It sounds absolutely nothing like backwoods Georgia.

And it makes for very good Boudreaux and Thibodeaux jokes. As for Hollywood who cares? If image is what Hollywood makes then the Northeast is all mafia, the South is all backwoods and the West is supremely intelligent humans. Which we all know is backwards.

I think the phrase is "Who Dat Say Goin Beat Dem Saints". Sounds like it was created in Lafayette to me if you put a "mais,cher" at the end. :p

a bientot

foreverfan 12-03-2009 08:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 179702)
WHO DAT came first!!!

It was actually started by Souther University and LSU picked it up briefly. Saints fans started back in early 1970's but the team took it on officially in 1983. Bengals first used it in 1981.

Its ours and they stole it!!!

I saw the same thing happen with Houston Oilers had a fight song, got some airplay with it back with Bum was there and then other teams had there version of it cut.

This is correct. I remember in 1980 saying Who Dat gonna beat them Tigers. Never stuck. Figures it started with Southern.

Who Dat is so New Orleans. What do people say when someone comes to the door or on the phone in NO?

Who Dat? :bartinator:

gumbeau 12-03-2009 10:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 180699)
How does a Cajun accent cultivate a poor image? It is a mix of French and English and I hear plenty of it in and especially around New Orleans. It sounds absolutely nothing like backwoods Georgia.

And it makes for very good Boudreaux and Thibodeaux jokes. As for Hollywood who cares? If image is what Hollywood makes then the Northeast is all mafia, the South is all backwoods and the West is supremely intelligent humans. Which we all know is backwards.

I think the phrase is "Who Dat Say Goin Beat Dem Saints". Sounds like it was created in Lafayette to me if you put a "mais,cher" at the end. :p

a bientot

I don't think you understood me.

No one from the City speaks like a Cajun. The City has its own dialect(s), none of which are Cajun. The Cajuns have several dialects of English and a few in French as well. North Louisiana (and by that I mean almost everything north of I-10) has various versions of the general Southern US dialect that are specific to the individual regions in Louisiana.

One of the great things about Louisiana is the linguistic diversity. You can tell within a few miles where a person grew up in Louisiana by listening to them talk.

Hollywood oversimplifies this and totally misapplies it. Outsiders come in and think everyone in New Orleans grew up in Jersey.

I've lived all over the country and I know the ONLY image of Louisiana that most people have comes from movies and TV.

And there was no slight intended towards Cajuns. I trace my maternal ancestry to pure Cajun. My grandfather spoke french and was beaten in school for doing so. The paternal side is New Orleans Italian and Port Barre French. I am 100% South Louisiana. It would not do to insult my own heritage.

exile 12-03-2009 10:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gumbeau (Post 180714)
I don't think you understood me.

No one from the City speaks like a Cajun. The City has its own dialect(s), none of which are Cajun. The Cajuns have several dialects of English and a few in French as well. North Louisiana (and by that I mean almost everything north of I-10) has various versions of the general Southern US dialect that are specific to the individual regions in Louisiana.

One of the great things about Louisiana is the linguistic diversity. You can tell within a few miles where a person grew up in Louisiana by listening to them talk.

Sorry gumbeau. I did indeed misunderstand and you make good points. Hollywood is Hollywood. It will never change. New Orleans wasn't part of the original Louisiana purchase and was a region of West Florida. Not much French heritage I presume.

Boutte 12-03-2009 04:55 PM

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Who Dey, are you kidding me? Who Dey?? Idiots.

SaintGup 12-03-2009 05:33 PM

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To be honest 'Who Cares?'. It has been adopted by Saints fans and is associated with Saints fans. So it is now ours. And for the person who says stop saying it because it makes us sound stupid.. WRONG! It makes us sound passionate and it alerts people as to who we support. It has become a rallying cry and it is up to you if you don't like it but don't try and tell people what they can say. By the way, sitting in The Corner sports bar on Jackson square, a number of Bengals fans where chanting 'Who Dey'. Sorry guys, it sounded a bit meek and didn't sound like it would stir up much passion.


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