Rating Malcolm Jenkins
 

Well, we've seen Jenkins in an extended role at CB lately. How would you rate his performance?

IMO his obvious strength to this point has been his physical nature. He excels at pressing WR's at the line, knocking guys off their routes and giving safeties time to help. The dude plays like Vilma on the corner!

His major weakness is definitely his speed. I've noticed his tendency to grab at players when they get past him to slow them down and he's been called a few times for holding (and some very close no-calls).

I love this guy's never-quit attitude and his physical abilities. Experience will only make him better.

How do you rate MJ? Is he our CB of the future? Or is he a player you can plug into the S or CB role depending on the scheme?


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tight in the hips, making it hard for him to adjust to receivers in route, which is why he grabs. Gaining flexibility and lowering his center of gravity will help with his speed and transition.

Learning process. Grade him out at C+

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He had one of the best 3-cone drills of this decade. Stiff hips probably aren't his problem. I think its grasping the mental part of the game. The game hasn't slowed down for him quite yet.

He looks like a typical promising young rookie. He has all the physical skills required, yet he still bites a bit on out moves, which is why he grabs.

I'll give him a B-, he gets 1/2 a grade point for special teams play.

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For a rookie, I think he's played pretty well. He has been spectacular on special teams, and he's been 50/50 at cornerback. I thought he had a great game against the Patriots, and a really bad game against the Redskins.

Now, IMO, the reason we he (and the entire secondary for that matter) had a bad game against the Redskins was because of the defensive line. Any of you guys who watched the game will remember that we didn't have any sacks and only hit Jason Campbell three times in the entire game. Now I'm no expert, but I do know that when the defensive line doesn't get any pressure on the quarterback, it makes the secondary's job a lot harder.

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There was a lot of holding being done on Will Smith that wasn't called all day which is why we didn't get to Campbell.

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from what ive seen of jenkins ive been surprisingly impressed

he gives up some deep balls when he is all alone with no help but so does everyone else

there are a lot of passes that go over his head but most of them are perfect throws and even when he does have great coverage, the ball is completely indefensible

like you...i love his physicallity and his size is a great asset in the NFL.....on a team where we blitz a lot its great to have a big guy shielding receivers from the ball.....he shouldnt have to cover deep routes because the blitz should be getting to the QB....if he gets beat deep even tho we blitz its not his fault all the time......QBs shouldnt have time to lob the ball over his head if we are pressuring the right way

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Totally agree.

The corners played too far off the wr's. I thought the line got push, but Campbell did a good job of releasing early. The CB's always looked like they were 10 feet away.

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I noticed that too. Thats scheme more so than individual CB play. GW obviously wanted to keep things up front.

Maybe thats because we had our 4th and 5th CB's starting, I dunno.

Thats not really McKenzies strong suit. He's a good press CB that challenges well. Playing McKenzie 10 yards off a WR is kinda like playing Jason David in bump and run.

But it sounds kinda foolish to 2nd guess the best DC in the league and a team thats 12-0 doesn't it? :)

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blitzing and not playing press doesnt make sense anyway.....i understand wanting to disguise the blitzes....but everybody knows we are going to blitz

blitz....delay the receivers running their routes by pressing them at the line.....then force a tough throw under pressure to a WR that is only a portion of the way through their route

that is the idea of blitzing....but without press coverage, blitzes are pretty useless

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get him at Safety already. The talent is there but the speed thing is killing him.

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I disagree with that hagan, the kid can play cornerback, but he's got stuff to learn. He'll be alright.

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no doubting his talent at all. I see pro bowl FS written all over him.

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I believe he has done very well this year, yes, he still has a lot to learn. He should only get better. I do agree that he looks like he has the potential to be an all pro FS.

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Yeah he is a tad slow for the speedy recievers..its obvious...just look at the Foreskins game...he played catchup allday...and he better stop with that holding thing..he just needs to be more physical at the line...i think he's good at that...I dunno

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Malcolm is a good corner but will be a great safety. But seeing that Sharper and Harper is a great combination already. NO would get justice putting him at Nickel Back

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I would say inconsistent. As a special teams player, AWESOME

As a CB, Inconsistent. He played great against the patriots but not so hot against the skins.

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Disagree with that. He bit on fakes, then caught up. You don't catch up unless you have speed, which he has shown he has numerous times this year.

He has fantastic closing speed.

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Just saying that because he has a tendancy to bit on fakes, if some does not think he can be a corner, what makes anyone think he can be an All Pro safety? That not a trait one would want at either positions.

Though the past two games he's looked completely overmatched and overwhelmed, it's all a learning process and he's still a rookie. He's definitely not as polished as one would want, but in the end he'll be just fine where he's at. He's fast and smart enough to continue to grow into a fine talent at either position. I can remember many clamoring for him to start this season... with his play of late, I'm sure one could see the reason why he was sitting at the bottom of the depth chart. If we went into the playoffs with Jenkins starting at one side, I'd be pretty worried.

As far as a grade is concerned, C/C-.

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there is a difference between game speed and regular speed. idk if guys know what i mean. this kid can keep up.. i have seen him kept up with some speedy WR. i seem him excelling at FS and maybe the nickel like tracy did. But give him another year and he will be in his true potential. plus its too early to rate a rookie. by his third we should be able to rate him properly.. i have soo much confidence in this guy.. he can do it.. and plus once sharper retires.. looks like we might have a new FS in the midst.. also, give him more time to study GW's scheme.. im sure he's just adjusting to it. thats just IMO. oh and grade? ill give a C+ solely because of his ST plays.

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Ok...maybe so..he just seems to be trailing all the time ..maybe he can learn to be fast...I could see him being a great safety...or nickel back... This new kid Marcus Mcauley?.....he has the speed ..lets see if he can be coached up...i luv the way Jenkins plays ST...he has that down...and he's a rook so maybe time will tell...

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I think Gregg Williams sums it up quite nicely...

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Couldn't agree more. Kid looks good to me. I'd like to add that he doesn't appear to be losing confidence (having a short memory is an unappreciated skill in the CB) and that's huge. I also like the comment about the game not slowing down for him yet. It will eventually, and he'll be good.

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Jenkins is a great playmaker, and he will be making more and more big plays.

His speed is a liability when our speed guys are injured, and he has to
cover the fastest receiver on the field. Otherwise, he should do fine.

I do think he will soon be converted to FS. Not so much because of his
speed, but because he is such a physical, smart, instinctive playmaker.

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I like Jenkins so far...and he's with vets that can show him the ropes. His strrength pressing at the line can cancel a lot of problems in coverage. If he can continue to interrupt routes and blow away QB-receiver timing, it can only improve our results. He's a keeper.

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The past two games? He looked awesome in the Patriots game; sure tackling, solid coverage, no blown assignments.

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I thought he got away with a lot during the Pats game and that he played poorly. There was a lot of holding calls that were blantant which wasn't called. He could not keep up with Welker at all.

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He does look a little lost out there at times but Welker does that to a lot of DBs. This should be a good learning experience for him and should make him more coachable for next season. What he got away with at Ohio State wont work in the NFL.

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What is this about Welker? He was as shut down as I have seen him in 2 years. Good job MJ!

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MJ got away with a few calls but I still think he will be OK and glad we picked him.

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It looked to me that on the longest pass play Jenkins gave up in the Redskins game Sharper (or maybe Harper) was playing out of position. One of the safeties should have been giving Jenkins help deep. Jenkins is a rookie who's made some great plays this season, so I feel good about his future. Naturally, he's gotten burned some, but so did Porter in his first season. He was the one who gave up the long pass to Moss late in the 4th quarter two years ago when we lost to the Redskins.

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The problem for Jenkins when grading him as a CB is that he's got Tracy Porter as the measuring stick. If you compare how Porter played his first few games at CB and how Jenkins has looked playing CB the past 2, MJ don't look good.

I tell you... the field conditions in Maryland were horrible. I don't think we have ever seen either Greer or Porter play in a field that soggy. I think I need to see a couple more games before I can say either way.

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I was hoping someone else noticed.

But if his assignment was to disrupt Welker's route and give the safety time to react then MJ did his job that night.

Maybe the Washington game was just a different game plan, but MJ did look behind his man most of the game.

Field conditions? Nah, bc the receivers had to run on the same field and they had no problems getting past our guys.

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Jenkins will be making some mistakes but I think the potential is there for him to be real good. He is a rookie and has been throw in the fire. We were not getting the benefit of having any calls go our way when the Redskins were on the offensive side. Holding could have been called numerous time against the Skins and it was obvious to me that the officials were not going to come clean. Even though we won the game I thought the officials were really calling the game poorly. Worst I have seen all year for any team or game.The officials were calling everything against the Saints and were turning a blind eye to the Redskins. We were fortunate to get out of there with a win and if not for Payton calling time out we would have lost. That crew of officials had to be forced into every call we got.

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Seems to me that they are going after him like they went after Jason David and with about the same results. Not good. Maybe, MAYBE a D.

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i think the saints drafted jenkins with the idea of him playing the 3rd or 4th corner this year and eventually moving him to safety.. allowing him to learn the aspects of covering the NFL WR.. but the injuries to both starting corners has thrust Jenkins into a starting spot and i think he has handled it fairly well for a rookie who has been mostly playing opposite the teams best WR...

B+