SAINTS DT Discussion
 

I am kind of tired of hearing things like " Maybe if we trade this guy, or this draft pick, or both said player and draft picks" maybe we can get Suh!!! I can't seem to get it through to these people we can not give up players like J. Brown, C. Grant, or even L. Moore and draft picks for this guy. Didn't we learn anything from the Ditka/R. Williams deal!???

Now what DT I did want to get some thoughts on is UCLA's Brian Price. I have only seen a few of his games... he kinda fits the Sed Ellis mold as far as size....but he seems to play with better leverage and power. Most important I think he can be had at the bottom of the first where we will be picking.

Thoughts folks....maybe from people with better knowledge of the guy???

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I honestly don't know much about the guy so I couldn't really give a good assessment on him. But as far as finding a DT opposite Ellis, I'd like to kick around the tires and see what KC would give Dorsey up for. He feel out of favor in KC and hasn't been anywhere close to what they thought he would become. If we could get him for a mid round pick, I'd love to see Ellis and Dorsey pair up. In college, each studied each others game and tried to emulate one another. If a change of scenery and coming back home could light a fire under Dorsey, I think we'd wreck havoc in opponents backfield.

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If we don't draft a DT in the first two rounds, one sleeper I've kept my eye on all-season is D'Anthony Smith out of Louisiana Tech. At 6' 2", 300, he is projected as a 3rd or 4th round selection. He's got a nice burst, and I've seen him sling QB's down like rag dolls. His sack stats dropped after busting out his junior year, but it was mainly because he was double-teamed frequently. He has the versatility to play DE, as well. Reminds me of Anthony Hargrove....just without the checkered past.

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Ive seen him to..i would like someone bigger ..although he wouldnt be a bad pick..

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Yeah ...but we have Big Sed already ... so i'm thinking we need a run stuffer. Putting Dorsey next to Ellis wouldn't give us as much success as say a Pat Williams or Vince Wilfork type...we need a big wide body next to Ellis no????

Hargrove is nice on third downs....but he is exactly what is killing us in the middle on run downs....he's to light. :bng:

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Hargrove is a DE really. I think it was out of necessity he slid over to tackle.

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Coming out of college, many projected Ellis to be a run stuffing DT perfect for a NT in a 3-4. I honestly could careless about the 10 pounds which people use to label DT's as a run stuffer or pass rusher. If both can penetrate the back field, whether they're 300 or 315, they're going to occupy blockers freeing up linebackers. The Pat Williams, Vince Wilfork, and Casey Hamptons of the league aren't leaving their respective teams. But if we can find one which we can afford, I'll all for that type too.

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Dorsey really hasnt been used correctly in KC.. they have been converting to a 3-4 and that definetly takes away from Dorseys pass rushing talents...

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Papz held the nail and Pak hammered it. LOVE to see Dorsey in N.O.

With only 4 draft pick in 2010 we better turn to FA...

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what good is a pass rush though if they never throw the ball??? See what I'm saying?

Tampa ran the ball ten times in a row in OT and we couldn't stop them...we know the rest of that story!!!:confused:

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which is also another screw up for KC.. Dorsey does play the run well but not in a 3-4.. he isnt a huge plugging DT like pat williams, etc.

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I like the Dorsey idea. He was a force in the middle at LSU. What's his contract status?

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The Saints need a big run stuffer for sure. Ellis gets alot of love around here and he's clearly the Saints best DT. But, he's along way from being a great player. A true run stuffer beside him would free him up more for sure.

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This!

Also Big Vince Wilfork is a free agent after the season....He would be PERFECT!!!!:bng:

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Big money, you're talking then .... isn't this the year of the DT and DE in the draft? Overpaying we should not be doing!

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Casey Hampton will be a FA after this season as well, and we all know Pittsburgh never pays its FA's to stay...

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True. With that said, he's a extremely important piece to that defense. He's a big reason, no pun intended, that their linebackers are as effective as they are. Look at the type of money Haynesworth went for last year. Hampton and Wilfork might not be as a premiere player as Haynesworth, but it's going to take an arm and a leg to acquire their services. Now unless Bush and Grant aren't on this team next year, I don't believe they're in our financial constraints. Also with the uncertainty of the '11 season, teams are going to be reluctant to dish out massive multiyear deals to big name free agents. I believe their best bet will be staying with their respective teams for guaranteed money over a short period of time. I think we're going to see a larger than usual use of the franchise and transition tag this offseason.

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Most Pittsburgh fans have come to terms with the fact that this is Hampton's last season as a Steeler. That being said, the franchise price tag might not be a terrible option for Pittsburgh as, with the exception of Fat Albert, the DT salaries aren't too horrible.

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Ryan Pickett, Green Bay Packers (30)
Run stuffer at NT,

Tony Brown, Tennessee Titans (29)
DT if we want to go after the quick attacking DT mold across the board.

Draft

this kid I want to learn more about. bottom of round 2?

Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke
Height: 6-6. Weight: 310.
Projected 40 Time: 5.11.

late rounds

Jay Ross, East Carolina
Height: 6-3. Weight: 314.
Projected 40 Time: 5.14.


Kade Weston, Georgia
Height: 6-5. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05

Al Woods, LSU
Height: 6-5. Weight: 314.
Projected 40 Time: 5.12

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yeah..... I like that kid from Duke as well...he would be a great pickup in the second for sure IMHO.

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This years draft could resemble last years defensive minded draft. I'm in favor of a big name FA if we could cut some of the fat off the D line and free up some money,if not then draft someone who will start.