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SaintPauly 01-19-2010 07:18 PM

Apologies, but WHAT???
 
I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing this Vikings disrespect that's being discussed here. I'm watching this 90 minute Total Access, and it seems to me like everyone down the line is more interested in the Vikings than the Saints. Even Phil Simms (#1 Saints Hater, Cris Carter #2), made an appearance to go ahead and predict the Vikings to win the Superbowl!

The only two people I have seen pick us all week, is Mark Schlereth, and Trent Dilfer. Two analysts, does not a majority make. We might be picked in Vegas, but make no mistakes my friends, the majority of the football world is picking the Vikings.

And that's the way I want it. Doubt us, and underdog us, because that's when we play our best ball.

Just not getting where the Vikings are feeling "disrespected" here.

breesfan27 01-19-2010 07:21 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
I LOLed when that Vikings fan cried "no respect" earlier.

How the heck do you figure you're not getting respect, when the media has been swallowing your QB's load all season??

GTFO!

Armyofderek 01-19-2010 07:24 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Chris Carter has never picked the Vikings all year, so that would be a change. Schefter, Schlereth and Dilfer as well have been hating on the Vikings. So much has been made of the Vikings line, Brett's age and how the Vikings, "Can't run the ball anymore" and how mediocre the Vikings have been on the road.

Depends on who you are and where you look as a result.

Armyofderek 01-19-2010 07:26 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 194749)
I LOLed when that Vikings fan cried "no respect" earlier.

How the f*ck do you figure you're not getting respect, when the media has been swallowing your QB's load all season??

GTFO!

Yeah cuz Brees and the Saints have gone under the radar going, what 14-0? Especially after that awful year he had last year too, your funny but spare me.

JoanieNTX 01-19-2010 07:26 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Dude, we're all watchin' it all over the news....NFL Network. All we hear is "Papaw Favre!"

SaintPauly 01-19-2010 07:29 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Well, I don't know what your version of "showing love" is, but Cris Carter has not picked us all season either. Primetime, basically threw us under the bus before the first play off game started. As just stated, in 90 minutes of play off coverage, the NFL Network is sitting in Brett Favre, and Jared Allen's laps right now, waiting to hear superbowl stories.

Vike4Life 01-19-2010 07:29 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
I also would like to hear more about the teams and game rather than about Favre and his legacy.

The media is just trying to get ratings, Favre is a very compelling story and he does have a heck of a resume. Maybe in 9 years Brees will be getting all the attention if he leads a team to the NFCC at 40 yr old.

It sucks to be discounted, but it is what it is.

breesfan27 01-19-2010 07:31 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armyofderek (Post 194755)
Yeah cuz Brees and the Saints have gone under the radar going, what 14-0? Especially after that awful year he had last year too, your funny but spare me.

The talking heads have been picking against us all f*cking season!!!

Every damn week, the media would pick our opponets to "pull off the upset"

NY Giants, Atlanta, New England, Dallas, Arizona.

And we went 13-0, get your stats right.

All season, they made up some bullsh*t excuse as to why we wouldn't win.

Last year, Brees threw for over 5,000 yards, and he still got snubbed for MVP. How is THAT respect?

MN_Pack_Fan 01-19-2010 07:34 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armyofderek (Post 194753)
Chris Carter has never picked the Vikings all year, so that would be a change.


He picked them on Sunday morning, FWIW.

Armyofderek 01-19-2010 07:36 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 194762)
The talking heads have been picking against us all f*cking season!!!

Every damn week, the media would pick our opponets to "pull off the upset"

NY Giants, Atlanta, New England, Dallas, Arizona.

And we went 13-0, get your stats right.

All season, they made up some bullsh*t excuse as to why we wouldn't win.

Last year, Brees threw for over 5,000 yards, and he still got snubbed for MVP. How is THAT respect?

So really both teams werent favored for much of the season and had alot to prove. I dont doubt it would be different if you guys had drawnt the Cowboys last week and Minny got the Cards...because the Cowboys are a better win. But the lesson as always, nobody knows nothing about anything, especially media dolts.

Brees would have won hands down if they had made it a wild card, if I remember that was the sticking point.

Armyofderek 01-19-2010 07:37 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MN_Pack_Fan (Post 194770)
He picked them on Sunday morning, FWIW.

Well, there is a first time for everything.

breesfan27 01-19-2010 07:40 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Does anyone have audio or a video clip when he was on Mike & Mike yesterday morning? After watching that, it sounded to me like he was wearing purple underwear all along!

Armyofderek 01-19-2010 07:40 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
The Favre circus is nauseating. If he walks over to the sideline and headbutts a cheerleader, the media would call it "genius" or "veteran savvy". I dont disagree with that and if his play overshadows the whole team and theyre winning, that's a casualty I can accept.

SaintPauly 01-19-2010 07:42 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
I think Carter is still bitter about losing to Atlanta in the NFC Championship back in 98. After that incredible season, losing at home, in the big one, to Chris Chandler had to be somewhat emasculating.

Armyofderek 01-19-2010 07:47 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 194780)
I think Carter is still bitter about losing to Atlanta in the NFC Championship back in 98. After that incredible season, losing at home, in the big one, to Chris Chandler had to be somewhat emasculating.

That was awful, the biggest kick to the teeth in my life. It sucked to see, Jamal never played after '99 season and Chandler was booed out of town for Vick within a few years. It's like the '98 Falcons were sent to be the Vikings Harbinger of Death.

SaintPauly 01-19-2010 07:48 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Yeah, I remember that game. It was a shock to say the least.

saintsfan1976 01-19-2010 07:50 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Colin Cowherd this morning said the Saints had "the least talent of all teams left in the playoffs". He had the Vikings at 1 or 2.

But anyway - who really cares where everyone else ranks your team?

I like being the underdog anyway but I'm sure no one on either team is taking this matchup lightly.

This is two pretty evenly matched teams with similar abilities and it's gonna be a heck of a game.

It'll come down to pressuring the QB and turnovers.

Viking visitors: If you're here trying to out-piss us as fans then you're wasting your time bc the Saints deserve is just as much as any other team that worked to get here.

Armyofderek 01-19-2010 07:51 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 194790)
Yeah, I remember that game. It was a shock to say the least.

Rooting against the Falcons I'm sure!:mrgreen:

MN_Pack_Fan 01-19-2010 07:56 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Colin Cowherd is nothing but a troll with a big microphone. He just says things to rile people up and usually it works. I can recall distinctly in 2005 him saying Favre was washed up, grossly overrated and that he was finished. This year he had Favre's nuts on his chin.

How are the Saints the least talented? My Lord just look at that receiving corps, the OL, QB and the running backs. I will say the same thing I said with regards to the Packers against the Cardinals. I just don't know how the Vikings can stop the Saints (I didn't realize our defense would give up 45 freaking points but that's another topic).

If the Saints get up early, it's going to be lights out. Say a 10-0 lead in the first quarter or a 17-3 type lead in the 2nd quarter. Favre has never been a master at coming back and it's those type situations he gets careless with the football (see the AZ and Panther games). Yes, they did comeback against the Bears, but they didn't get the prize and the entire Bears secondary in the 2nd half was backups.

If the Vikings are close or ahead though at halftime they are going to be tough to beat. I said it all year long, if the Vikings trail early they're in deep trouble (see Pitt, AZ, Panthers, Bears) but if they get the lead they're almost impossible to beat. I kept banging that drum even when they were 10-1...to that point the only time they were behind was against SF and it took a miracle to win that one. Down the stretch they were behind early 3 times and lost all 3 of those games.

Armyofderek 01-19-2010 08:01 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MN_Pack_Fan (Post 194806)
Colin Cowherd is nothing but a troll with a big microphone. He just says things to rile people up and usually it works. I can recall distinctly in 2005 him saying Favre was washed up, grossly overrated and that he was finished. This year he had Favre's nuts on his chin.

How are the Saints the least talented? My Lord just look at that receiving corps, the OL, QB and the running backs. I will say the same thing I said with regards to the Packers against the Cardinals. I just don't know how the Vikings can stop the Saints (I didn't realize our defense would give up 45 freaking points but that's another topic).

If the Saints get up early, it's going to be lights out. Say a 10-0 lead in the first quarter or a 17-3 type lead in the 2nd quarter. Favre has never been a master at coming back and it's those type situations he gets careless with the football (see the AZ and Panther games). Yes, they did comeback against the Bears, but they didn't get the prize and the entire Bears secondary in the 2nd half was backups.

If the Vikings are close or ahead though at halftime they are going to be tough to beat. I said it all year long, if the Vikings trail early they're in deep trouble (see Pitt, AZ, Panthers, Bears) but if they get the lead they're almost impossible to beat. I kept banging that drum even when they were 10-1...to that point the only time they were behind was against SF and it took a miracle to win that one. Down the stretch they were behind early 3 times and lost all 3 of those games.

We saw Dallas do it when the Saints had a full head of steam, the Cardinals' had two of their top defensive backs out and they, like the Vikings, have had very close games. But yes, the Vikings do need to take the crowd out of it as soon as possible.

SaintPauly 01-19-2010 08:03 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armyofderek (Post 194796)
Rooting against the Falcons I'm sure!:mrgreen:

You got it. Hate the Falcons.

saintsfan1976 01-19-2010 08:17 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armyofderek (Post 194813)
We saw Dallas do it when the Saints had a full head of steam, the Cardinals' had two of their top defensive backs out and they, like the Vikings, have had very close games. But yes, the Vikings do need to take the crowd out of it as soon as possible.

Saints were hardly at full steam for that game. They were about as worn out as they had been all season and lost to a good team that was backed into a corner and needed a win more than we did.

We lost to Dallas, but we beat better teams during the season.

I agree that the two Zona DBs going down helped the Saints, but they don't block for Warner and they don't cover on punts.

Frankie Boog 01-19-2010 08:45 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
another lame @$$ excuse for people to not give credit to one of the most prolific offenses seen in the last decade.

homerj07 01-19-2010 09:33 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Ok so the Viks get no respect & it is all Favre - I don't care I so frippen sick & damned tired of hearing about that whiney indecisive buttmunch.

I don't care how old or how talented you are - Make a choice & stick with it.

the-commish 01-19-2010 09:56 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Respect doesn't win football games... players do. And good coaching does. Someone may have to excuse me here, but in the matchup of Brad Childress vs. Sean Payton, I'll take Payton any time.

hagan714 01-19-2010 10:01 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
respect comes after the game

xan 01-19-2010 10:10 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Most sports pundits are trying to sucker the line down so they make more money on their bets. Publicly advocate for the Vikes while placing money on the Saints. Drives money the wrong direction, and helps Vegas recoup all the money lost on Saints lines early in the season.

strato 01-19-2010 10:49 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
I have a permanent shadow burnt on my frikin tv screen of Farve...thanks Espn..

SaintPauly 01-19-2010 10:55 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 194837)
Saints were hardly at full steam for that game. They were about as worn out as they had been all season and lost to a good team that was backed into a corner and needed a win more than we did.

We lost to Dallas, but we beat better teams during the season.

I agree that the two Zona DBs going down helped the Saints, but they don't block for Warner and they don't cover on punts.

Another point on the Dallas game, which has been pointed out about a thousand times, is that we came out completely flat in that game, for the first 3 quarters. And still came back in the fourth to bring it within a touchdown. In fact, if it hadn't been for the defense in the second half of that game, the score would have been alot more one sided.

Before someone points it out, I KNOW that I blamed the defense for that loss. I still do to a degree, in respect to the first half, but I came to my senses on the second. :)

Armyofderek 01-20-2010 11:32 PM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Here's a list we got going of who is picking who, you guys slightly favored. VIKINGS

Jeffri Chadiha
Brian Billick
Steve Mariucci
Herm Edwards
Teddy Bruschi
Charles Robinson
Qadry Ismail
Charley Casserly
Cris Carter
Peter King
Phil Simms
Mike Mayock
Jay Marriotti (Around the Horn)

SAINTS
Chris Collingsworth
Jim Mora Jr.
Bucky Brooks
Micheal Lombardi
Trent Dilfer
Merril Hodge
Warren Sapp
Jamie Dukes
Marshall Faulk
Gil Brandt
Terry Bradshaw
Don Banks
Jason LaConfora
Charles Davis
Pete Prisco
Steve Wyche
Vinnie Iyer
Bill Plaschke (Around the Horn)


Lol be happy you guys are favored in your own home game.

strato 01-20-2010 11:35 PM

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I see two ex Vikes in your list and not one Saint in ours..

Armyofderek 01-20-2010 11:40 PM

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...Is there an ex-Saint in the media???

Btw, Ismail doesnt count lol

SaintPauly 01-21-2010 12:23 AM

Re: Apologies, but WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armyofderek (Post 195659)
Here's a list we got going of who is picking who, you guys slightly favored. VIKINGS

Jeffri Chadiha
Brian Billick
Steve Mariucci
Herm Edwards
Teddy Bruschi
Charles Robinson
Qadry Ismail
Charley Casserly
Cris Carter
Peter King
Phil Simms
Mike Mayock
Jay Marriotti (Around the Horn)

SAINTS
Chris Collingsworth
Jim Mora Jr.
Bucky Brooks
Micheal Lombardi
Trent Dilfer
Merril Hodge
Warren Sapp
Jamie Dukes
Marshall Faulk
Gil Brandt
Terry Bradshaw
Don Banks
Jason LaConfora
Charles Davis
Pete Prisco
Steve Wyche
Vinnie Iyer
Bill Plaschke (Around the Horn)


Lol be happy you guys are favored in your own home game.

I also wanted to add the name Juan Ramirez. He is my girlfriends cousin, and he picked us yesterday. Because honestly, he knows who's going to win, just about as much as anyone on either of these lists. :)


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