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Concerns about Brees' Playoff Performances
Brees is in the top 2 or 3 in QBs in NFL we know this. But Im concerned about his play in BIG Playoff games. He tends to struggle when he is outside of his blowout confort zone. Out of the 4 playoff games he has played in with the Saints he only truly showed up in one. And that was against the Cardinals. Phila in 06 he made mistakes and looked uneasy, same in Chicago. And last week against Minnesota he did not play his best game by far. His accuracy was off big time. It seems that the big game pressure gets to him at times. And I really feel that if the game was on the line last week and Brees had to score a TD to win we would have lost. We needed an unlikely hero in Hartley to win. And I feel it may come down to this in the SB. What do you all think?
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I just have to point out, all of the drops by WRs in the Vikings game as well. You get rid of all of those, and Brees has 300 yards, to go with the three touchdowns he passed for. Not to mention he had NO picks, at all.
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I'm more concerned about fair weather fans.
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Blowout comfort zone is a great description this is where Drew struggles. We saw it in Dallas and Minnesota who brought the same type of pressure which took him out of his game rythem.
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You should also look at the rushing numbers in the games that Brees has struggled. If the defense doesnt respect the run it makes it harder for the QB to make plays. If you cant run the ball, or dont try to run the ball the pass rush is always coming hard. The Arizona game 34 carries at 5 YPC and a total of 171 yards rushing. Opens up the throwing lanes. The Vikings 23 carris at 3 YPC and 61 yards rushing. If the Saints have success running the ball Brees can tear a defense up, but if he is counted on to carry the entire offensive load that is where the struggles seem to be to me.
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Brees has a tendency to sail the ball under pressure. He throws a high ball to begin with, but looking at the incompletes from the last half the season you can see more than a trend to miss high. I watched the replay last night, and, aside from the incompletions where he bounced the ball at someone's feet due to pressure, all his throws were too high, and misses were exceptionally high. Wide open receivers never had a shot at most balls. Shockey's wheel route, Meachem's go, Thomas on the PI play in OT are the best examples, where the receiver had a decided advantage and Brees panicked and overthrew the ball.
Plus, did anyone notice his staccato footwork after getting a few hits? He was particularly susceptible to pressure and utterly unfluid moving around the pocket. I'll bet if we could see inside the helmet, he had deer-eyes. He better grow up quick and get control of these issues. He rushed practically everything as the pressure built and needs to slow things down a bit, because if you think the NFC Championship Game had an elevated level of speed to it, just wait for the Super Bowl speed. |
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very true. And I think we will be more successful running the ball against the Colts. I think we can win this but only if we are balanced. 60 mins stands between is and a World Championship......wow |
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Wow. All of a sudden Brees is a problem for some people. SaintPaul25 is right about the drops and the yards he would have made but I really don't think we should worry. I think that WE should be the ones to realise that not all games will have Brees throwing 300+ yards and three touchdowns. He managed the game well, threw no INTs and his unquestionable leadership was and always will be there. And the Vikings D were not like the Cowboys. Our O line did a stand up job against a D line who people said were going to get to Brees. In fact Jared Allen, whom I have great respect for, was totally negated by the left side. Maybe Brees doesn't throw a perfect spiral 100% of the time but he's damn close and at an NFL record 70.6% completion in the regular season, he must be doing something right.
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Also, someone said earlier, and I agree with 100%, I think the team will have less pressure on themselves in the Superbowl, than they did in the NFCCG. With the history of the team, and the weight of the entire who dat nation on their backs to win, I'm sure the jitters were there. Now they are in it. Yes, they want to win, but I think just knowing, no matter what, they are there, will calm them down considerably.
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in 4 playoff games for the saints......drew has thrown 9 TD passes and 1 INT
he is completing over 60% of his passes in those games his passer rating is 102.2 Averaging 260 yards per game in those 4 games 7 sacks(1 this postseason) the only thing you need to worry about is his pass attempts in this game if he has to throw 40 passes this game, we likely will not win......when we dont commit to running the ball, the team struggles to put up points because the defense will know what we are doing we had good balance this post season and offseason and need to continue it against the colts 24th ranked rush defense they can stop a team that is 1 dimensional...but not a team that can do both |
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Canton beat me to it. His stats for this year are 6TDs no INTs or Fumbles. 1 sac. Those are the kind of numbers that win games.
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Drew will be fine once he gets the butterflies out...This a big game peoples..Peyton has been there.. so thats the only advantage i give the Ponies..
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Canton's correct. Plus the Saints scored 31 pts in the game.
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My concerns are in two areas. Stadium and grass. If I recall historically we do well on neither.
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It was pointed out by Mr. Aikman himself that something wasn't right...before that I had told my wife after just a couple of attempts that he was off. I believe that the injury word was used by Troy when he was speculating as to what might be wrong. All I know is that he didn't look like the archer splitting the tree to me the other night...
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I hope he looks good next week...and the stick'em is in abundant supply.
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All post for this thread is correct but we need the ground game.
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Well Drew had a very good game against Arizona until the illegal hit. After that I thought he was off so maybe that had something to do with it. To be fair, Drew was up against a very good defence in the Vikings. Despite that, he was sufficiently controlled to keep us in a game the Vikings were hoping to break open to 2 scores. Yep, there were more incompletes that I would have liked. But forst and foremost, he did not commit the errors that a lesser QB would have under the circumstances. I say that Drew will not let the Saints down if he has the likes of Shockey back for the every offensive snap and he has Colston, Meachem, and Henderson, perhaps Moore close to fitness and ready to play.
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I'm sorry - I agree. Drew seems to have the jitters. Is it the extra paint on the ball, the pressure, nerves? I don't know - BUT He had better figure it out & rectify the problem before the 7th!!
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Hard for Brees to trust WR's that are not only just now returning to the game but suddenly have forgotten how to hold on to the ball, he's been scrambling to get the ball out to the best hands available, no necessarily the most open guy.
Watch the video's again, notice how there's sometimes a couple of guys open but Brees looks the other way, waits, pace around, scrambles a bit and make a decision to just either get the ball out or finally see the guy he knows will catch the ball. |
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Canton voice of reason
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I agree, I think Brees tends to get scared at times in big games, or just after a few hits. How many times did you see Favre sit in there and take a BEATING, but he still got the ball to a reciever -- whereas Brees, not so much. Alot of 3 and outs after balls were sailing out of reach. Then again, there were some dropped passes, but you still can't deny that he was off.
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"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. ~Aaron Levenstein
There are a number of stories by professional sportswriters commenting about Drew's seeming problems in the Vikings game. There is a lot of speculation why it's happening, but more than just a few board-junkies like us have seen it. I don't know what's wrong, but something is. True: There were drops by our receivers. Also True: There were more incomplete passes due to errant throws. True: Drew didn't throw any picks against the Vikes. Also True: He got lucky on two very bad throws. On one, the CB had a sure pick but the Vikes LB tried for the ball and knocked it away. On the other, he overthrew Colston so badly (as he did three other times) that Colston wound up tipping the ball into the hands of three Vikings players and none of them could come up with it. As an aside, if he's hurt but not badly enough to miss practice - I think it's smart for the organization not to say anything. |
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