NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged]

Saintswrath · 01-28-2010, 08:54 PM

From what i heard, the Rights to "WHO DAT" Isn't the issue, it's the Rights to the Saints Logo (the Fleur De Lis) And The Name "Saints" on anything, most of our Saints Logo and Saints named stuff just happened to have "WHO DAT" on it.
Someone probably exaggerated the story a bit to get people in an uproar..

skymike · 01-28-2010, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Saintswrath

From what i heard, the Rights to "WHO DAT" Isn't the issue, it's the Rights to the Saints Logo (the Fleur De Lis) And The Name "Saints" on anything, most of our Saints Logo and Saints named stuff just happened to have "WHO DAT" on it.
Someone probably exaggerated the story a bit to get people in an uproar..

no, i listened to WWL a moment ago... they were going after people selling anything black and gold... and ANY fleur, not just the Saints trademark fleur.

i really dont think the NFL wants this to become a big story... keep talking about it, and watch and see if it doesnt get interesting. we've made our voices heard before....

Saintswrath · 01-28-2010, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

no, i listened to WWL a moment ago... they were going after people selling anything black and gold... and ANY fleur, not just the Saints trademark fleur.

i really dont think the NFL wants this to become a big story... keep talking about it, and watch and see if it doesnt get interesting. we've made our voices heard before....

Well if they are trying to stop anything with the Fleur de lis on it and black and gold, they will have a fight on their hands, thats just ridiculous, first the Fleur de lis don't even belong to American's, it's a French/Religious Symbol that have been used for centuries not decades.
And even after that the city of New Orleans when founded kept that symbol as a city trademark along with the crescent sign.
The Fleur De Lis has a Deeper meaning than a damn Football game or any modern games for that matter, they will lose that one.. Besides Ed Hartley have been using that on his cloths for a while now, why haven't they targeted that clothing designer?.

Black and Gold? How can you Trade mark colors or the 3 words.. They don't own it..
The Saints i agree, they own the rights to that as a Football name and it shouldn't be printed on to cloths that relate to football and be sold without permission.

But i'll go listen to the WWL Podcast to see what this is all about.

breesfan27 · 01-28-2010, 09:57 PM

This is SO unfair to Lauren! I have severaly Fleurty Girl shirts, including the #WHODAT shirt. The No Fun League sucks.

What a bunch of ra-tards!

But on a good note, all this free publicity is getting Lauren more business! Kudos, girl! I support you 100%

strato · 01-28-2010, 10:34 PM

We must revolt...whos with me? "The Who Dat Revolution!"

breesfan27 · 01-28-2010, 10:42 PM

Defend Who Dat! Defend Fleurty Girl!

WHO DAT!

SaintPauly · 01-28-2010, 10:48 PM

I remember an interview with Ronnie James Dio, when he was asked who started the devil horns sign, at metal shows, and actually he did start doing it, but then I guess Gene Simmons came out in the press, and said he started it. Dio said according to Gene, he invented the color orange, and the word "the".

Very similar situation.

xan · 01-28-2010, 10:56 PM

The Fleur de Lis has been employed in various ways since 493 with the Frankish King Clovis I and became the standard and consistent emblem of French royalty thereafter. It is essentially a "serif'ed" cross, signifying a union between the Almighty and the conference of power to His designee on earth. It has nearly always been depicted as a gold flower regardless of the background. Most notably,

IT IS ON THE NEW ORLEANS CITY FLAG SINCE 1718

The NFL would lose on summary judgment.

WillMacKenzie · 01-28-2010, 11:38 PM

They can't copyright a fleur de lis, because its not even American, and its much older than even the copyright system (as someone pointed out earlier).

They can't copyright black and gold colors.

And unless they've copyrighted "who dat!", there's nothing they can do about that either.

The only issue would be if she used an exact picture of the Saints logo, emblem, the word Saints, or anything directly linked to the NFL and its properties.

You can copyright an EXPRESSION of an idea, but you can't copyright an underlying idea. Nor can you copyright something in the public domain.

She could well say that a fleur de lis and the words "WHO DAT!" are not related to The Saints football team, but is more of an expression of attitude for New Orleans residents. (i.e. "who dat", who is going to keep New Orleans from recovering)

Copyrights: How Different is Different Enough

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SaintPauly · 01-29-2010, 02:53 AM

I recently found a company online, that sells game day jerseys, all stitched, for 60 dollars each. It is an exact replica, or the same jerseys, that sell for 300 dollars, on any website. Not just the Saints, EVERY team in the NFL. Now how is it possible for them to do this, and not get notes from the NFL?

01-28-2010, 08:54 PM	#1
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] From what i heard, the Rights to "WHO DAT" Isn't the issue, it's the Rights to the Saints Logo (the Fleur De Lis) And The Name "Saints" on anything, most of our Saints Logo and Saints named stuff just happened to have "WHO DAT" on it. Someone probably exaggerated the story a bit to get people in an uproar..

01-28-2010, 09:16 PM	#2
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] Originally Posted by Saintswrath From what i heard, the Rights to "WHO DAT" Isn't the issue, it's the Rights to the Saints Logo (the Fleur De Lis) And The Name "Saints" on anything, most of our Saints Logo and Saints named stuff just happened to have "WHO DAT" on it. Someone probably exaggerated the story a bit to get people in an uproar.. no, i listened to WWL a moment ago... they were going after people selling anything black and gold... and ANY fleur, not just the Saints trademark fleur. i really dont think the NFL wants this to become a big story... keep talking about it, and watch and see if it doesnt get interesting. we've made our voices heard before....

01-28-2010, 09:52 PM	#3
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] Originally Posted by skymike no, i listened to WWL a moment ago... they were going after people selling anything black and gold... and ANY fleur, not just the Saints trademark fleur. i really dont think the NFL wants this to become a big story... keep talking about it, and watch and see if it doesnt get interesting. we've made our voices heard before.... Well if they are trying to stop anything with the Fleur de lis on it and black and gold, they will have a fight on their hands, thats just ridiculous, first the Fleur de lis don't even belong to American's, it's a French/Religious Symbol that have been used for centuries not decades. And even after that the city of New Orleans when founded kept that symbol as a city trademark along with the crescent sign. The Fleur De Lis has a Deeper meaning than a damn Football game or any modern games for that matter, they will lose that one.. Besides Ed Hartley have been using that on his cloths for a while now, why haven't they targeted that clothing designer?. Black and Gold? How can you Trade mark colors or the 3 words.. They don't own it.. The Saints i agree, they own the rights to that as a Football name and it shouldn't be printed on to cloths that relate to football and be sold without permission. But i'll go listen to the WWL Podcast to see what this is all about.

01-28-2010, 09:57 PM	#4
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] This is SO unfair to Lauren! I have severaly Fleurty Girl shirts, including the #WHODAT shirt. The No Fun League sucks. What a bunch of ra-tards! But on a good note, all this free publicity is getting Lauren more business! Kudos, girl! I support you 100%

01-28-2010, 10:34 PM	#5
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] We must revolt...whos with me? "The Who Dat Revolution!"
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01-28-2010, 10:42 PM	#6
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] Defend Who Dat! Defend Fleurty Girl! WHO DAT!

01-28-2010, 10:48 PM	#7
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] I remember an interview with Ronnie James Dio, when he was asked who started the devil horns sign, at metal shows, and actually he did start doing it, but then I guess Gene Simmons came out in the press, and said he started it. Dio said according to Gene, he invented the color orange, and the word "the". Very similar situation.

01-28-2010, 10:56 PM	#8
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] The Fleur de Lis has been employed in various ways since 493 with the Frankish King Clovis I and became the standard and consistent emblem of French royalty thereafter. It is essentially a "serif'ed" cross, signifying a union between the Almighty and the conference of power to His designee on earth. It has nearly always been depicted as a gold flower regardless of the background. Most notably, IT IS ON THE NEW ORLEANS CITY FLAG SINCE 1718 The NFL would lose on summary judgment.

01-29-2010, 02:53 AM	#10
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] I recently found a company online, that sells game day jerseys, all stitched, for 60 dollars each. It is an exact replica, or the same jerseys, that sell for 300 dollars, on any website. Not just the Saints, EVERY team in the NFL. Now how is it possible for them to do this, and not get notes from the NFL?