NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged]

exile · 01-28-2010, 07:52 AM

They're all questions Fleurty Girl t-shirt shop owner Lauren Thom is being forced to answer.

“The NFL is not a company that I want to rock the boat with, but I definitely want to look into it further to see what my rights are,” Thom said.
Two weeks ago, Thom got a cease and desist order from the NFL.

“They're telling me not to print anymore shirts and to get rid of the inventory that I have because it says the words 'Who dat' and it has a gold fleur de lis on the shirt,” she said.

But Thom’s t-shirt isn’t the only one the NFL has a problem with. Storyville t-shirt shop also got a cease and desist order for two of their t-shirts.
“I really thought the 'Who Dat' was something that belonged to the people more than to the Saints or to the NFL or anything else,” said Storyville co-owner Josh Harvey.

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MATHIUS · 01-28-2010, 07:53 AM

WHAT THE _____?

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SaintPauly · 01-28-2010, 08:09 AM

Twenty years ago, to a year ago, no one cared about the term "Who Dat", or the rights to it. Now that the Saints are going to the superbowl, here come the fat cats. Leave it to success, to mess things up for the little people, who gave their heart and soul, to make it happen. Disgraceful.

Choupique · 01-28-2010, 08:11 AM

I built a web site years ago for retired nfl players... an unofficial
privately owned forum and the NFL even gave us a hard time
about logo use.

They protect the leagues intellectual property rights. That would include
all teams under a wide legal umbrella. Just think of the verbal disclaimers after ever game....
"accounts of the game, etc"

I'm not taking sides. That is their take on the matter. It could be argued
they've become anal retentive but so much money is at stake they slap
every small guy they can in an effort to control the profitablity.

There are so many bootleg Who Datters is ain't funny is the reality of the situation.

Locally every mom and pop under the sun has been painting who dat
on anything and everything possible and trying to sell it. People are greedy.

Reminds me of the music industry, somehow.

:-p

SmashMouth · 01-28-2010, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Choupique

I built a web site years ago for retired nfl players... an unofficial
privately owned forum and the NFL even gave us a hard time
about logo use.

They protect the leagues intellectual property rights. That would include
all teams under a wide legal umbrella. Just think of the verbal disclaimers after ever game....
"accounts of the game, etc"

I'm not taking sides. That is their take on the matter. It could be argued
they've become anal retentive but so much money is at stake they slap
every small guy they can in an effort to control the profitablity.

There are so many bootleg Who Datters is ain't funny is the reality of the situation.

Locally every mom and pop under the sun has been painting who dat
on anything and everything possible and trying to sell it. People are greedy.

Reminds me of the music industry, somehow.

:-p

Interesting take ... it's still BS .... who owns the trademark "who dat"?

And ... +1, Exile, on the Skol one!

TheOak · 01-28-2010, 08:17 AM

From what i read they are not trying to take that away from us. They are trying to stop people/businesses from selling Saints gear that is not licensed and she had the Fleur De Lis in Saints colors on that shirt.

According to NFL spokesman Dan Masonson, "Any unauthorized use of the Saints colors and other [marks] designed to create the illusion of an affiliation with the Saints is equally a violation of the Saints trademark rights because it allows a third party to 'free ride' by profiting from confusion of the team's fans, who want to show support for the Saints."

Banjojoe · 01-28-2010, 08:23 AM

If she in fact is printing the logo in Saint's colors, I think they (NFL) have a case. However, the term "who dat" goes way way back. If you follow the link below you will be surprised just how far.

Who Dat? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Banjojoe

Choupique · 01-28-2010, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Banjojoe

If she in fact is printing the logo in Saint's colors, I think they (NFL) have a case. However, the term "who dat" goes way way back. If you follow the link below you will be surprised just how far.

Who Dat? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Banjojoe

That is correct. I've seen old 78 rpm records with who dat on them.

In 1981, the Cincinnati Bengals fans and players had started with their similar "Who Dey" cheer.

Who dey is so lame I'd have to move out of Ohio. Really, please stop.

who dey. puhlease.

SaintPauly · 01-28-2010, 08:31 AM

Well, if we are going to go that far back, then let's keep going...

Fleur-de-lis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

UK_WhoDat · 01-29-2010, 04:57 PM

Well at the moment if you say New Orelans you are thinking..................SAINTS. So I guess the NFL better come on in and put an order on every damn piece of paper, clothing, .... that has New Orleans on. And God forbid that it has any of black, gold or white on!

01-28-2010, 07:52 AM	#1
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] They're all questions Fleurty Girl t-shirt shop owner Lauren Thom is being forced to answer. “The NFL is not a company that I want to rock the boat with, but I definitely want to look into it further to see what my rights are,” Thom said. Two weeks ago, Thom got a cease and desist order from the NFL. “They're telling me not to print anymore shirts and to get rid of the inventory that I have because it says the words 'Who dat' and it has a gold fleur de lis on the shirt,” she said. But Thom’s t-shirt isn’t the only one the NFL has a problem with. Storyville t-shirt shop also got a cease and desist order for two of their t-shirts. “I really thought the 'Who Dat' was something that belonged to the people more than to the Saints or to the NFL or anything else,” said Storyville co-owner Josh Harvey. NFL orders shops to stop selling 'Who Dat' gear \| wwltv.com \| News Attached Thumbnails
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01-28-2010, 08:09 AM	#3
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL is trying to take "Who Dat" away from us! Twenty years ago, to a year ago, no one cared about the term "Who Dat", or the rights to it. Now that the Saints are going to the superbowl, here come the fat cats. Leave it to success, to mess things up for the little people, who gave their heart and soul, to make it happen. Disgraceful.

01-28-2010, 08:11 AM	#4
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: NFL is trying to take "Who Dat" away from us! I built a web site years ago for retired nfl players... an unofficial privately owned forum and the NFL even gave us a hard time about logo use. They protect the leagues intellectual property rights. That would include all teams under a wide legal umbrella. Just think of the verbal disclaimers after ever game.... "accounts of the game, etc" I'm not taking sides. That is their take on the matter. It could be argued they've become anal retentive but so much money is at stake they slap every small guy they can in an effort to control the profitablity. There are so many bootleg Who Datters is ain't funny is the reality of the situation. Locally every mom and pop under the sun has been painting who dat on anything and everything possible and trying to sell it. People are greedy. Reminds me of the music industry, somehow. :-p
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: NFL is trying to take "Who Dat" away from us! Originally Posted by Choupique I built a web site years ago for retired nfl players... an unofficial privately owned forum and the NFL even gave us a hard time about logo use. They protect the leagues intellectual property rights. That would include all teams under a wide legal umbrella. Just think of the verbal disclaimers after ever game.... "accounts of the game, etc" I'm not taking sides. That is their take on the matter. It could be argued they've become anal retentive but so much money is at stake they slap every small guy they can in an effort to control the profitablity. There are so many bootleg Who Datters is ain't funny is the reality of the situation. Locally every mom and pop under the sun has been painting who dat on anything and everything possible and trying to sell it. People are greedy. Reminds me of the music industry, somehow. :-p Interesting take ... it's still BS .... who owns the trademark "who dat"? And ... +1, Exile, on the Skol one!

01-28-2010, 08:17 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: NFL is trying to take "Who Dat" away from us! From what i read they are not trying to take that away from us. They are trying to stop people/businesses from selling Saints gear that is not licensed and she had the Fleur De Lis in Saints colors on that shirt. According to NFL spokesman Dan Masonson, "Any unauthorized use of the Saints colors and other [marks] designed to create the illusion of an affiliation with the Saints is equally a violation of the Saints trademark rights because it allows a third party to 'free ride' by profiting from confusion of the team's fans, who want to show support for the Saints."

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Banjojoe Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 19	Re: NFL is trying to take "Who Dat" away from us! If she in fact is printing the logo in Saint's colors, I think they (NFL) have a case. However, the term "who dat" goes way way back. If you follow the link below you will be surprised just how far. Who Dat? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Banjojoe
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01-28-2010, 08:33 AM	#8
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: NFL is trying to take "Who Dat" away from us! Originally Posted by Banjojoe If she in fact is printing the logo in Saint's colors, I think they (NFL) have a case. However, the term "who dat" goes way way back. If you follow the link below you will be surprised just how far. Who Dat? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Banjojoe That is correct. I've seen old 78 rpm records with who dat on them. In 1981, the Cincinnati Bengals fans and players had started with their similar "Who Dey" cheer. Who dey is so lame I'd have to move out of Ohio. Really, please stop. who dey. puhlease.
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SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL is trying to take "Who Dat" away from us! Well, if we are going to go that far back, then let's keep going... Fleur-de-lis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,000	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] Well at the moment if you say New Orelans you are thinking..................SAINTS. So I guess the NFL better come on in and put an order on every damn piece of paper, clothing, .... that has New Orleans on. And God forbid that it has any of black, gold or white on!