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hitta 02-21-2010 02:00 PM

Reviewing Malcolm Jenkins....
 
I think hes going to be really good. He seems to know where the ball is going. I think hes been made to look bad at times because he isn't as fast as some other corners, but you can tell he has an extremely high football IQ. I think he could end up being an elite player in the league... if not at corner then definitely safety. I think he has potential though in both areas.

Having another year in camp will help too.

CantonLegend 02-21-2010 02:03 PM

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he breaks on the ball really well

i agree with the football IQ part......it seems like he is great at reading routes and QBs drops

he gets burned deep without safety help but its dangerous for a QB to throw the curl routes on him.......even in the super bowl he cut off an out route and would've had a pick had he been a half step faster

any other QB than manning would've thrown a pick 6 in that situation

i like him covering better than gay who was victimized a lot this season in the slot

G504 02-21-2010 02:29 PM

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I like Jenkins too. No corner is going to do it perfect every time. The way football is played now, where QBs NOT named Jake Delhomme look to air out on every possession, there is little distinction between the number 1 and number 2 receiver. So he's drawn some pretty big assignments this year. A couple times in the Super Bowl, he was covering Reggie Wayne. But definitely an excellent rookie year.

Saint_LB 02-21-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 209540)
I think hes going to be really good. He seems to know where the ball is going.

The tricky part is getting there. He will be a safety, IMO.

QBREES9 02-21-2010 02:38 PM

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Give him another year and I bet he lights it up !!! He as great skills, and Football IQ

Rugby Saint II 02-21-2010 03:46 PM

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I was happy with his rookie season. I can't help but wonder just how well he would have played if he hadn't held out so long before joining the team at training camp. He got off to a bad start this year, but I think that after a full season under his belt and a full training camp he'll really come on next year.

SmashMouth 02-21-2010 04:37 PM

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Not sold on his cover skills as a CB ..... much more comfortable as a safety!

TheDeuce 02-21-2010 04:49 PM

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I think he can play cornerback, the dude played well as a rookie in the playoffs and in the Super Bowl. I mean if you really expected him to step in and be a shutdown corner against seasoned NFL vets, that's just not really reasonable. I thought he had a very good rookie season, and showed that he is going to be a really good player for the Saints for several years. He's not going to be a Champ Bailey or a Derrell Revis, but I don't think anybody expected him to be that. We all knew he didn't have great speed, but he showed what I had seen from him in college: great instincts and ball skills.

He never really gave up big plays (with exception of the Washington game) and he forced a few turnovers. Not to mention he had a huge tackle in the Super Bowl and don't forget that he almost picked off Manning a few plays before Porter did.

I don't buy all this safety stuff... the dude is a cornerback. He was one of the best CBs in the nation in college and played damn good as a rookie in the NFL without much camp experience. He might never be a Pro Bowl lockdown corner, but he's going to be a good player. All of this safety talk seems unsubstantiated to me because I doubt that any of you have seen him play safety. Just my opinion though.

Saint_LB 02-21-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDeuce (Post 209576)
I doubt that any of you have seen him play safety.

but we have seen him play CB...

foreverfan 02-21-2010 06:09 PM

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Face it... the guy is going to end up playing safety.

I'll bet my reputation on it... wait... what reputation? :jkool:

exile 02-21-2010 06:38 PM

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He's a corner and a very good ST player. Not going to make it as a Safety in my opinion. He'll turn out like Usama. Keep him at corner and let him grow into the position.

D_it_up 02-21-2010 07:01 PM

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Sure, Jenkins had a few embarrassing moments on the field, but it is easy to get picked on when you are a rookie who is thrust into the starting line-up after the starters go out with injury. As a few have stated, he didn't have a full training camp. He's just getting his feet wet in the NFL and I think he's going to end up being a nice draft pick no matter where he ends up playing.

Choupique 02-21-2010 08:06 PM

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From my couch he looked pretty darn good. I've never played cornerback in the NFL much less in a super bowl.

I think he is better than ya'll give him credit for. Coach Payton obviously likes the guy. That is enough for me.

jnormand 02-21-2010 09:43 PM

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I think that he will stay at corner. I think another year or two and he will be starting.

MatthewT 02-21-2010 09:49 PM

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He is in a really good situation right now. It would be wise for the Saints to keep him at CB right now, but also get him some work at safety. He seems to do well as a nickel and dime back, it would be nice to get him some reps at safety while Sharper is still around. (If Sharper gets signed that is). Then can take another year or so to get a true feel on his best long term position. As for his rookie year, he played very well.

dizzle88 02-22-2010 05:30 AM

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every veteran corner will tell you that they got beat a countless number of times in their rookie season, hey look at tracy porter, yes he was a stud for a rookie in 2008, but he still got beat a number of times. HOWEVER look at what hes turned out like now, put him on your best receiver no questions asked. Malcolm will be fine, if he makes the move to safety then fine, i love the versatility he gives the D and his physicallity is awesome. If he does make the move, a couple years under sharper will do him a world of good

TheDeuce 02-22-2010 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 209578)
but we have seen him play CB...

And he was that bad as a rookie CB that you're saying he needs to switch positions? That's something that very few people can do. Usama tried it, and he's awful. I just don't really understand why there's such a push for him to change positions, something that could potentially ruin his career. Add on top of that the fact that nobody even knows if he can play safety, and it doesn't make sense to me. Why fix something that ain't really broken? If he struggles the next couple of years, then sure, I think that's something we should consider, but Malcolm played well in 2009. I'm not sure if we were watching the same player this season or not, but Jenkins looked pretty good for a rookie. He held his own and made some really good plays at times.

Saint_LB 02-22-2010 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDeuce (Post 209632)
I just don't really understand why there's such a push for him to change positions, something that could potentially ruin his career.

I can give you 2 reasons...Greer and Porter. I want all of my good players on the field at the same time...and if I got a guy that can play CB, but it would benefit the team more if he played S...I would want that guy to be a team player.

Danno 02-22-2010 07:28 AM

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Jenkins will be fine. Nearly every time he got beat he either missed his jam or bit on a double. Thats something he will get better at with more experience.

And it was encouraging to see him make up the distance when he did get beat. It showed me that he does have pretty decent make-up speed.

For a 1st year CB there were enough good plays to convnce me he'll at least be a decent CB in this league, while I think he'd make an exceptional FS.. Oh and don't forget, he did play some safety at tOSU. Not sure how much though.

His main problem right now is playing behind Porter and Greer. I don't think either of those two hot shot rookies in Miami could crack that.

To get more playing time he'll have to play a lot of nickle/dime and FS packages.

strato 02-22-2010 09:40 AM

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Safety...which isnt a bad thing...too slow for a cornerback..

lynwood 02-22-2010 10:12 AM

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If his speed has anything to do with it he will be safty. CB's need to have "make-up" speed. I can't tell yet if he has speed or not. He's pretty quick as a gunner on kickoffs but that is different. Either way the saints benefit by having a talented player and will find where he fits in on the team the best. Honestly, being Sharpers understudy isn't a bad gig.

neugey 02-22-2010 02:01 PM

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Give him a full offseason and training camp, we'll see what year 2 brings.

xan 02-22-2010 03:47 PM

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According to FO, Jenkins was one of the top 10 worst corners in 2009. That being said, he was one of only a handful of rookie corners with significant playing time and he got picked on a lot as the bulk of coverage favored the #1 and #2 receivers. He got islanded up a fair bit. Plus he was usually not in a position to make a tackle if his man got the ball, though his man only got 16 pass catches all season.

He'll only get better working with Greer/Sharper/Gay and against Brees.

breesfan27 02-22-2010 04:41 PM

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Jenkins is a talented kid. With the right guidance, he could become a key CB. I say give him a chance to make something of himself.

Saint_LB 02-22-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 209754)
Jenkins is a talented kid. With the right guidance, he could become a key CB. I say give him a chance to make something of himself.

What's wrong with becoming the next Darren Sharper?

breesfan27 02-22-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 209773)
What's wrong with becoming the next Darren Sharper?

Maybe he will become the next DS. Maybe it will take next season for us to figure that out. Either way, he has a lot of potential.

Saint_LB 02-22-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 209776)
Maybe he will become the next DS. Maybe it will take next season for us to figure that out. Either way, he has a lot of potential.

Potential he does have...no doubt. It just seems to me that we already have our shut-down CB's, but more than that I believe he can become one of those safeties that people dread facing. I wouldn't mind him becoming a great CB and admit that he hasn't been around long enough for any one of us to know what will utimately happen...but I'm just fantasizing about having that Darren Sharper type safety that not only makes big plays on the ball, but also leaves an impression on RB's.


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