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QBREES9 03-03-2010 12:08 AM

Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
32. New Orleans Saints
Jerry Hughes, LB, TCU
The Saints could go in a number of different directions here, but Hughes brings pass rush and the athletic ability to play linebacker.


Mock draft 1.0: After the combine, Bradford goes first to Rams

CantonLegend 03-03-2010 12:18 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
this is the media making a bigger deal about the draft than it actually is

bradford wont go first and neither will clausen because they arent the best players in the draft......they arent even top 5 talent in this draft because the draft is so deep and the only reason they are mocked so high is because those teams in the top 10 need good players....including QBs

SaintPauly 03-03-2010 12:19 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
I heard on NFLN, that DT, is probably the deepest position in this year's draft, so I could certainly see us taking a LB, with the first pick. IMO, I think DT has to be addressed in the second round. After those two are out of the way, then go BPA, for the rest of the draft.

Rugby Saint II 03-03-2010 10:44 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Either DT or LB would be fine with me although I'm not very familiar with this years draft class yet. However, if I keep logging into the B&G I will learn everything there is to know about our prospects. Thanks to all the people who share what they've learned.

stockman311 03-03-2010 11:01 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
I actually like Washinton more than Hughes. TCU had a GREAT defense this year.

Daryl Washington
Height:6'2"
Weight:230 lbs.
Arm Length:34 1/2 in.
Hand Size:9 1/2 in.
College:TCU
Conference:Mountain West



Washington had his most impressive season as a collegiate football player in his first year as a starter for TCU. Washington lead the Horned frogs with 109 tackles and was clearly the most disruptive defender on the No. 1 defense in 2009. Washington has good height and athleticism for the position but lacks bulk when projecting him at the next level. He has gained 20 pounds over the past year and has a frame to carry additional weight moving forward in the NFL. He is an instinctive player that leverages the ball well and understands angles and run fits in the TCU defensive scheme. Washington is a solid open field tackler and the added bulk has helped his physical presence as a linebacker. He has good range in pursuit and has good lateral quickness and agility to be an effective coverage defender. Washington is a good football player that has been an excellent special teams contributor. He has improved his draft status dramatically by having an outstanding senior season.

stockman311 03-03-2010 11:03 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Jerry Hughes
Height:6'2"
Weight:255 lbs.
Arm Length:33 in.
Hand Size:9 3/4 in.
College:TCU
Conference:Mountain West



Hughes is a defensive end that has been the most disruptive defender for the Horned Frogs over the past two years. He is a tweener (size and athleticism) at the next level and may fit as an undersized end in a 4-3 scheme or an inexperienced outside backer in an odd front. Hughes is best attacking the line of scrimmage rushing the passer or penetrating to disrupt the run. He uses his hands well to control blockers on the edge. He also shows an expansive pass rush package. Hughes has dropped in zone coverage at times but is most comfortable with his hand on the ground. He is a solid tackler in the open field utilizing great balance and body positioning. Regardless of where Hughes aligns at the next level he should contribute as a rookie due to his instincts, toughness, athleticism and energy.

stockman311 03-03-2010 11:06 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Although if Fujita is back Hughes would fit more of need at DE.

strato 03-03-2010 11:12 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
I like Hughes and picked him months ago...so i could live with this pick..could be a Freeny type

stockman311 03-03-2010 11:46 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
He's have to throw on 20 lbs of muscle and not lose any speed to be a Freeney type. Not impossible I guess, but he is not a naturally big guy.

turbo_dog 03-03-2010 11:49 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
I saw one the other day (I don't remember where, but it was a legit site) that had us taking Tebow in the second. I didn't think it was entirely unrealistic. If anybody can think of a way to use him, it's Payton.

stockman311 03-03-2010 11:51 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Oh God, here we go.

BRSaintsFan 03-03-2010 12:15 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Hughes is certainly a bit undersized for a DE in a 4-3 scheme, but could adapt and early on in his career while putting on weight, could be a 3rd down pass rush specialist in the 4-3 while also standing up and playing an outside rush LB role when we deploy 3-4 looks on defense. He was very productive in college notching 28.5 sacks and 40.5 tackles for loss in his career. I would be a little concerned about his ability to disengage from tackles at the NFL level which is probably why most are projecting a switch to LB. He would also have to learn to drop in coverage in order to play LB in a 4-3 scheme. That said, I think he could be a valuable addition and see playing time as a pass rush specialist at end and as a 3-4 rush LB when Williams deploys that package.

Nwlasaint 03-03-2010 01:59 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 211211)
I saw one the other day (I don't remember where, but it was a legit site) that had us taking Tebow in the second. I didn't think it was entirely unrealistic. If anybody can think of a way to use him, it's Payton.

No way, not only do we have no use for him, he would never go in the second round to anyone

saintfan 03-03-2010 02:34 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Just say NO...to tee-bow.

Don't want him. Don't need him. Ain't gonna need him.

st thomas 03-03-2010 02:35 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
we need some size at the de 6'-4" to 6'-5" that can bull rush

stockman311 03-03-2010 03:13 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nwlasaint (Post 211240)
No way, not only do we have no use for him, he would never go in the second round to anyone

He won't go to us but some dumb ass team will most certainly pick Tebow in Round 2. In fact I'll go ahead and give it my Stockman Draft Special COLD HARD LEAD PIPE LOCK: Tim Tebow will be picked by some dumb ass team in the 2nd Round of the Draft. Also, the Saints will not draft Cody out of Alabama in any round. :)

You guys can take those to the bank.

CantonLegend 03-03-2010 03:57 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stockman311 (Post 211257)
He won't go to us but some dumb ass team will most certainly pick Tebow in Round 2. In fact I'll go ahead and give it my Stockman Draft Special COLD HARD LEAD PIPE LOCK: Tim Tebow will be picked by some dumb ass team in the 2nd Round of the Draft. Also, the Saints will not draft Cody out of Alabama in any round. :)

You guys can take those to the bank.

256 total picks in the NFL draft

we have 6 picks this season

thats a 2.3% chance we pick any player in the draft.....

in fact.....there are 24 positions on a football team if you include punters and kickers

thats a 9.3% chance that a team even picks the same position as you predict

according to walterfootball.com there are 37 possible defensive tackles that could be taken in this draft

which means even if we pick a DT there is a 97% chance we dont select terrence cody

if you include the fact that a team might not even pick that same position as you predicted.....there is a .01% chance that a team will select the player you predict

so the odds are in your favor obviously.....although i will say its funny that you continue to drag these arguments from 1 thread to another

stockman311 03-03-2010 04:13 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
So your saying there's a chance.

stockman311 03-03-2010 04:14 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Have you calculated the odds that Tebow will be picked in the second round?

Well hop to it!

stockman311 03-03-2010 04:36 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Not only do I love the odds that mystery dumb ass team selects Tebow in Round 2, I am predicting that a team from early round three will trade up with us on Friday night and pick him at pick number 64. How's that for a prediction? Precise enough for you slap?

exile 03-03-2010 04:41 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
It only takes one team. First round for Tebow!

stockman311 03-03-2010 04:53 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
No chance. Nada. Zip. Zilch. There's a better chance that Sasquatch gets drafted in Round 1 than Tebow.

exile 03-03-2010 04:54 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stockman311 (Post 211273)
No chance. Nada. Zip. Zilch. There's a better chance that Sasquatch gets drafted in Round 1 than Tebow.

I spit in your general direction.

stockman311 03-03-2010 04:59 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!

CantonLegend 03-03-2010 05:53 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stockman311 (Post 211266)
So your saying there's a chance.

lol great movie

and yes.....theres a chance we pick becky "icebox" o'shea or bobby "waterboy" bouchet

hagan714 03-03-2010 08:10 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
i could live with hughes as a backup at WLB over SLB.

QBREES9 03-03-2010 11:04 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stockman311 (Post 211212)
Oh God, here we go.

Oh No its ON, ITS ON .... LOL way to early to tell. plus the Saints will take the BEST PLAYER AVALIBLE

jeanpierre 03-03-2010 11:56 PM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
Well two weeks ago I liked Hughes and Odrick and it looks like Odrick not only solidified his standing but will move up a few spots...

SapperSaint 03-04-2010 09:42 AM

Re: Mock draft 1.0, By Pat Kirwan
 
I like Heather! I like her ahlot!


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