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BillyCarpenter1 09-23-2003 07:43 AM

Saints will turn it around !!
 
While this season hasn't started out like I would have hoped, if the Saints can beat the Colts we will be 2-2. To me, the main reason we have lost the games we have is because of the offense. Granted the defense hasn't been spectacular, but they have played respectful in every game. I, like many others, expected the offense to have to carry the defense through the first 4 or so games, but the offense has done nothing except put the defense in bad situations.

For the Saints to turn this around, the offense must get back to putting points on the board. I fully expect the offense to have a break out game soon. If that happens and the defense gets some of the injuried players back, I think this team will be in the hunt.

I think many have written this offense off, but I feel there is simply too much talent for that to continue to happen. Deuce will start rushing for a 100 plus yards and with the way Brooks has been throwing the ball this offense will be as good as any in the NFL. I aslo think with the addition of Conwell that it has added another dimension to this offense.

The season is young and I wouldn't be betting against this offense just yet !! It all starts with the Colts this Sunday ....

The Saints WILL WIN !!!


[Edited on 23/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

BrooksMustGo 09-23-2003 08:04 AM

Saints will turn it around !!
 
I\'m afraid of Indy and I\'m afraid of Carolina.

I like our chances against Chicago, but we even managed to lose to the Bengals last season.

I like our chances against a Vick-less Falcons, but then we have Carolina again.

Then Tampa leads us into the bye week.

Given the way we\'ve played so far (2 good quarters out of 12), I\'m being a crazy optimist to think we win 3 of them. Which 3, who knows? I\'d be shocked if we end up 4-5 going into the bye week, which doesn\'t mean our season is over by any stretch. But at the same time, I wouldn\'t be surprised to see us at 2-7 headed into the bye week (if we have 6 more games like last weekend).

All that to say, we could be in real trouble. If I hear any more about the talent, potential and whatever else this team should be, I\'m going to puke. :o :casstet:

BillyCarpenter1 09-23-2003 08:27 AM

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Quote:

All that to say, we could be in real trouble. If I hear any more about the talent, potential and whatever else this team should be, I\'m going to puke.
Talent on the offense:

1. Aaron Brooks
2. Deuce McAllister
3. Joe Horn
4. Donte\' Stallworth
5. Jerome Paython
6. Ernie Conwell
7. Le\' Charles Bentley

FWtex 09-23-2003 09:04 AM

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Billy I hear what your saying, the saints are 1-2 and that means 1 win away from .500, etc. etc. etc.

Have you only been reading the scores in the paper? The saints got their azz handed to them 2 out of 3 games so far. They have not done anything to show they know how to play football since the Tampa game last year. Thats 11 games the offense has not done squat.

Until they make some type of drastic move on offense it aint getting better. Contrary to what HAZ keeps saying \"it\'s a mistake here and a mistake there\", its a complete philosophical meltdown. Those don\'t change.

BillyCarpenter1 09-23-2003 12:25 PM

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FWtex --

:) I wouldn\'t lie to you man. Keep your chin up. The Saints WILL beat the Colts on Sunday. Didn\'t your mama read you \"the little engine that could\"? Listen, the Saints might very well bite the dust this year. But, let me tell ya..... Things aren\'t always as they appear in the NFL. I know you guys wrote the Saints off before they played their first game but there\'s still room on the wagon for ya. Want me go scoot over?

Let me ask you a question....... What will be your opinion if the Saints beat the Colts. That goes for the rest of ya 2..... :P

FWtex 09-23-2003 12:29 PM

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If they beat the colts I \'ll say lets see them do it again. This season is not about every other game, its about coming to play every week.

Back at ya. What will your opinion be if they lose to the colts?

BillyCarpenter1 09-23-2003 12:52 PM

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If they lose against the Colts I wil say that that they\'ve lost 3 games and then I\'ll be asking why y\'all want to give up on your team after 3 games. Right now I would like to know you gave up on \'em before they played the first game???

FWtex 09-23-2003 01:52 PM

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Its not about giving up on them. I did correctly foresee the problems this team has on offense though. Sorry, but I was given a good set of eyes and I use them.

This team can right the ship still but not with the plan in place right now. When HAZ comes out of denial and makes a change then they have a chance. This offense needs a jump start, something different to make the coaches and/or the players see things differently for at least one game. This team is stagnant and just saying they have to get better is not going to do it.

BillyCarpenter1 09-23-2003 02:00 PM

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FWtex --

There\'s no doubt that the offense can put up the points. It\'s just a matter of when. It\'s gonna happen. Watch what I tell ya. Just reading what Haz has been saying, I think he understands that he\'s got to pull out all the stops. I think Indy is in for an azz whoopin\'

SuperbowlSaints 09-23-2003 02:08 PM

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i agree with billy, the saints are gonna kick butt sunday nite, and if they don\'t, we have next sunday, i too am impressed with conwell, and the Beerman is just waiting to bust loose, although i do think the defense could have played a little bit better, the offense needs to click, and they wil, its just a matter of time.

WhoDat 09-23-2003 06:40 PM

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Billy, I hope you\'re right... but everything I\'m seeing is telling me that you\'re not. McCarthy\'s offense has lacked imagination since the second Atlanta game last season. Most football teams have streaks. Well, we\'re 5-11 in our last 16 (counting preseason). The defense, which was suspect to begin with, is now missing half of its starters. The offense has not been impressive in a while, and while I agree they are very talented, I continue to believe that they will not be as good as last year.

Yes, I HOPE that they get back on track against the Colts. However, the Colts are hot right now and we\'re flat. They\'re going to roll. Then we\'ll travel to Carolina to face a team that is starting to truly believe. We\'ll be demoralized and on a lossing streak. They\'ll probably still be in first place in the division. That game will make us 1-4. The Bears game should bring us to 2-4. Honestly, 3-5 at the break looks realistic to me right now.

Again, I hope I\'m wrong, but...


SaintNik 09-23-2003 09:42 PM

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The season is still way to young to give up on this team. The end result of winning more games than you lose and getting into the playoffs while on a roll at the end of the year is what any team should hope for. Opening up 6-2 last year didn\'t prove anything nor will opening up slow this year. It\'s a long season. All 16 games count. Does anybody out there not think that with the parity around the league that most any of the middle of the pack to upper tier teams can\'t get on a roll playing well and post a streak of victories? I\'m sure the fans of teams such as the Packers, Raiders, and Falcons with 1-2 records are wondering why their team isn\'t playing better so far. The Saints are only 1 game out of first place in the division with 13 games left and a chance to beat each division member twice.

Have we played well to this point? No! One would be foolish not to recognize that if the team continues to perform all year as they have to this point the season will be filled with disapointment. A win this week will put the team at a .500 mark and gain the confidence needed to regroup, refocus, and make a run in the right direction.

BrooksMustGo 09-23-2003 10:04 PM

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I\'m with what WhoDat said.

I don\'t like the looks of our next 4 games, particularly if we play so flat. You\'ve got to figure that even Chicago has to win one game this year and we have a nasty habit of playing down the competition.

SuperbowlSaints 09-23-2003 10:09 PM

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come on yall, saints 14-2 all the way, they truly will be SuperbowlSaints this year, come on, have a little faith in your team guys!

BrooksMustGo 09-23-2003 10:21 PM

Saints will turn it around !!
 
Was it just me that was SHOCKED AND AWED to see LeCharles give up a sack Sunday? He looked like a matador out there, just waving the red cape and letting guys go by.

SuperbowlSaints 09-23-2003 10:26 PM

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thats wut i\'ve been talkin bout since sunday\'s loss, the O-line stunk, and they need to do their job this sunday.

BrooksMustGo 09-23-2003 11:02 PM

Saints will turn it around !!
 
By the way pass me some of what Billy has in his pipe ;) :D :cool:

jm 09-24-2003 09:01 AM

Saints will turn it around !!
 
Although I did predict a 5-11 season in preseason, I don\'t consider myself giving up as I still hold out hope and pull for them each and every game. I want to be wrong but I haven\'t seen much to draw any other conclusions. Hoping against all odds perhaps the Saints can turn things around like they did in the 2000 season when they started 1-3 then finished in the playoffs. However their early losses in early 2000 didn\'t seem quite as dissmal.

saintz08 09-24-2003 09:58 AM

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Interesting take from the eyes of a Colts fan ....

Saints are playing in the 3rd & 4th quarters
In the first half this year their opponents have out-gained them 605 yards to 271, have run 33 more plays, scored 29 more points, averaged 2 yards more per play, scored 4 more touchdowns, and punted 3 less times.

They hit halftime and make changes...then...

In the second half[s] of their three games the Saints have almost completely reversed these numbers. They\'ve out-gained their opponent 526 yards to 320, have run 8 more plays, scored 18 more points, averaged 1.8 yards more per play, scored 2 more touchdowns, and punted 4 less times.

We need to get out to a good start and continue into the second half.


WhoDat 09-28-2003 10:01 PM

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Quote:

The Saints WILL WIN !!!
Billy?

blake6900 09-28-2003 10:22 PM

Saints will turn it around !!
 
To Billy Carpenter:

If you can still defend Brooks after this pathetic performance, then you\'re as bad seeing reality as he is reading a defense. He stinks and even you have to see that.

That fumble (you know the one where he tunnel-visioned the left side) is a perfect example of how downright ignorant this guy is. He sends McCalister in motion to the left and never once looks at the right side of the line. Duh! He couldn\'t read a defense if it was staring him in the face. I guess the NFL scouts were right, he is an idiot. I look forward to seeing how you can rationalize this.

BTW, you\'re starting to look rather foolish, ya know?!


saintz08 09-28-2003 11:08 PM

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