Back-up QB options?

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

After being let go by the Jags and the Skins and the way he has played in preseason and regular season, what makes you think he does?

for the past 2 seasons he has been in our system under one of the best QB coaches in the entire league under the best offensive system in the league

for the past 3 seasons he hasnt gotten to play with starters for a single game

every pass he has thrown has been with backups in the game

except for last season, every season he has played he has never thrown more INTs than TDs and in fact averaged almost twice as many TDs per season than INTs

dude is a quality vet that can teach as well as play. he has been in the league for a long time and has seen everything we could imagine.

NFL Videos: Pre WK 1 Can't-Miss Play: Meachem TD

D_it_up · 03-18-2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

dude is a quality vet that can teach as well as play.
NFL Videos: Pre WK 1 Can't-Miss Play: Meachem TD

He can teach, but he sure as hell can't play anymore.

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 02:00 PM

NFL Videos: Peppers INT

watch this real quick and tell me who jamar nesbit and zach strief blocked.....tell me if lynell hamilton came back towards the ball

and tell me why the heck bushrod was the only one who did the right thing on that play

strief screwed up terribly.....peppers stayed home so strief's job would be to engage him so he cant make the tackle...in this case peppers didnt have to make the tackle because he already had the ball

that play was not brunells fault

NFL Videos: Pre WK1 Can't Miss Play: Meachem catch

watch this one play.....where else can he put the ball so meachem can catch it? not to mention how he avoids the pressure and moves up in the pocket

D_it_up · 03-18-2010, 02:04 PM

So, your calculating that Brunell can still produce if Brees goes down because of two plays is just as asinine as you think we are for saying he can't after watching one full game.

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

So, your calculating that Brunell can still produce if Brees goes down because of two plays is just as asinine as you think we are for saying he can't after watching one full game.

now that we are even we need a tie breaker im all for coming up with ridiculous arguments if you guys can use them

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-18-2010, 02:14 PM

Brunell's football smarts are not in question, so it makes no difference who has been coaching him. It's what he can physically still do that is in question. And could it be that he has not played with the starters for three years because he is no longer good enough to warrant playing with them?

It is also not true that every pass he has thrown has been when backups were in the game. In the Carolina game Colston, Meacham, and Bush all were starters and were targeted with passes. He has had some great years....in the past. But when you can't hold onto a starting job over QBs like Byron Leftwich, Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell, and Todd Collins, it is indicative that you have lost something off your game. He has been in the league for a long time....perhaps too long. Bottom line though is we all hope we don't have to find out if he still has it or not.

saintfan · 03-18-2010, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

now that we are even we need a tie breaker im all for coming up with ridiculous arguments if you guys can use them

You're fighting a losing battle. You can lead a horse to water...

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

You're fighting a losing battle. You can lead a horse to water...

its only a losing battle to the people that wont open their eyes

1 game as an argument? lmao

i know nobody here has ever jumped the gun on somebody

especially not guys like pierre thomas, jolonn dunbar, jason david, jermon bushrod, and robert meachem

its funny how 1 play/game can make or break a players career according to so many posters here

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

Brunell's football smarts are not in question, so it makes no difference who has been coaching him. It's what he can physically still do that is in question. And could it be that he has not played with the starters for three years because he is no longer good enough to warrant playing with them?

It is also not true that every pass he has thrown has been when backups were in the game. In the Carolina game Colston, Meacham, and Bush all were starters and were targeted with passes. He has had some great years....in the past. But when you can't hold onto a starting job over QBs like Byron Leftwich, Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell, and Todd Collins, it is indicative that you have lost something off your game. He has been in the league for a long time....perhaps too long. Bottom line though is we all hope we don't have to find out if he still has it or not.

it is true.....colston caught 1 pass on our very first play but who was the TE in the game?.....DINKINS

bush is not a starter and meachem is not a starter

our leading receivers that game were lynell hamilton and darnell dinkins

oh and on that 1 highlight play of peppers interception.....who were our offensive linemen?

jermon bushrod, carl nicks, nick leckey, jamar nesbit, zach strief.....count it....1 starter at arguably the most important part of any football team

with that kind of protection i can see why brunell might not feel so comfortable in the pocket

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-18-2010, 02:41 PM

Oh Ok. Because Dinkins was in the game Brunell had a poor performance. Who really has their eyes closed?

03-18-2010, 01:42 PM	#51
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL After being let go by the Jags and the Skins and the way he has played in preseason and regular season, what makes you think he does? for the past 2 seasons he has been in our system under one of the best QB coaches in the entire league under the best offensive system in the league for the past 3 seasons he hasnt gotten to play with starters for a single game every pass he has thrown has been with backups in the game except for last season, every season he has played he has never thrown more INTs than TDs and in fact averaged almost twice as many TDs per season than INTs dude is a quality vet that can teach as well as play. he has been in the league for a long time and has seen everything we could imagine. NFL Videos: Pre WK 1 Can't-Miss Play: Meachem TD
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd Last edited by CantonLegend; 03-18-2010 at 01:48 PM..

03-18-2010, 01:56 PM	#52
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by CantonLegend dude is a quality vet that can teach as well as play. NFL Videos: Pre WK 1 Can't-Miss Play: Meachem TD He can teach, but he sure as hell can't play anymore.

03-18-2010, 02:00 PM	#53
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? NFL Videos: Peppers INT watch this real quick and tell me who jamar nesbit and zach strief blocked.....tell me if lynell hamilton came back towards the ball and tell me why the heck bushrod was the only one who did the right thing on that play strief screwed up terribly.....peppers stayed home so strief's job would be to engage him so he cant make the tackle...in this case peppers didnt have to make the tackle because he already had the ball that play was not brunells fault NFL Videos: Pre WK1 Can't Miss Play: Meachem catch watch this one play.....where else can he put the ball so meachem can catch it? not to mention how he avoids the pressure and moves up in the pocket
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

03-18-2010, 02:04 PM	#54
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back-up QB options? So, your calculating that Brunell can still produce if Brees goes down because of two plays is just as asinine as you think we are for saying he can't after watching one full game.

03-18-2010, 02:10 PM	#55
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by D_it_up So, your calculating that Brunell can still produce if Brees goes down because of two plays is just as asinine as you think we are for saying he can't after watching one full game. now that we are even we need a tie breaker im all for coming up with ridiculous arguments if you guys can use them

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03-18-2010, 02:14 PM	#56
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Back-up QB options? Brunell's football smarts are not in question, so it makes no difference who has been coaching him. It's what he can physically still do that is in question. And could it be that he has not played with the starters for three years because he is no longer good enough to warrant playing with them? It is also not true that every pass he has thrown has been when backups were in the game. In the Carolina game Colston, Meacham, and Bush all were starters and were targeted with passes. He has had some great years....in the past. But when you can't hold onto a starting job over QBs like Byron Leftwich, Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell, and Todd Collins, it is indicative that you have lost something off your game. He has been in the league for a long time....perhaps too long. Bottom line though is we all hope we don't have to find out if he still has it or not.
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03-18-2010, 02:15 PM	#57
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by CantonLegend now that we are even we need a tie breaker im all for coming up with ridiculous arguments if you guys can use them You're fighting a losing battle. You can lead a horse to water...

03-18-2010, 02:22 PM	#58
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by saintfan You're fighting a losing battle. You can lead a horse to water... its only a losing battle to the people that wont open their eyes 1 game as an argument? lmao i know nobody here has ever jumped the gun on somebody especially not guys like pierre thomas, jolonn dunbar, jason david, jermon bushrod, and robert meachem its funny how 1 play/game can make or break a players career according to so many posters here

03-18-2010, 02:30 PM	#59
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL Brunell's football smarts are not in question, so it makes no difference who has been coaching him. It's what he can physically still do that is in question. And could it be that he has not played with the starters for three years because he is no longer good enough to warrant playing with them? It is also not true that every pass he has thrown has been when backups were in the game. In the Carolina game Colston, Meacham, and Bush all were starters and were targeted with passes. He has had some great years....in the past. But when you can't hold onto a starting job over QBs like Byron Leftwich, Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell, and Todd Collins, it is indicative that you have lost something off your game. He has been in the league for a long time....perhaps too long. Bottom line though is we all hope we don't have to find out if he still has it or not. it is true.....colston caught 1 pass on our very first play but who was the TE in the game?.....DINKINS bush is not a starter and meachem is not a starter our leading receivers that game were lynell hamilton and darnell dinkins oh and on that 1 highlight play of peppers interception.....who were our offensive linemen? jermon bushrod, carl nicks, nick leckey, jamar nesbit, zach strief.....count it....1 starter at arguably the most important part of any football team with that kind of protection i can see why brunell might not feel so comfortable in the pocket
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03-18-2010, 02:41 PM	#60
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Back-up QB options? Oh Ok. Because Dinkins was in the game Brunell had a poor performance. Who really has their eyes closed?
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